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  • MajorPomM MajorPom

    @Crucial The only time I've ever seen Co-Captain, co=leaders etc working is for the Chiefs when they had Craig Clarke (on field) and Messam (club). And for the most part, that only worked as I think they had a clear pecking order.

    At no other point, work, sport anything, have I ever seen two-heads work.

    It's a woeful idea IMO.

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    @MajorRage said in Exodus 2019:

    At no other point, work, sport anything, have I ever seen two-heads work.

    Yeah it is almost always a recipie for disaster. Massively clutching at straws, but because I have a passing interest in it only two NHL teams have won the Stanley Cup without a captain, both were early 70's Boston Bruin teams (and while there wasn't an official captain having one of the top 5 players of all time essentially gives you a de facto captain). Currently 6/31 teams don't have one - which is about the norm historically, generally if there is a vacuum they will leave it vacant until an obvious choice surfaces.

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      Waratahs Nick Phipps and Curtis Rona will both leave for the northern hemisphere come the end of the 2019 Super Rugby season.

      The pair have both signed two year deals with English club London-Irish.

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      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

        Waratahs Nick Phipps and Curtis Rona will both leave for the northern hemisphere come the end of the 2019 Super Rugby season.

        The pair have both signed two year deals with English club London-Irish.

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        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Exodus 2019:

        Waratahs Nick Phipps and Curtis Rona will both leave for the northern hemisphere come the end of the 2019 Super Rugby season.

        The pair have both signed two year deals with English club London-Irish.

        Surely post RWC? (Assuming selection)

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        • boobooB booboo

          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Exodus 2019:

          Waratahs Nick Phipps and Curtis Rona will both leave for the northern hemisphere come the end of the 2019 Super Rugby season.

          The pair have both signed two year deals with English club London-Irish.

          Surely post RWC? (Assuming selection)

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          @booboo The web article it was pasted from did not clarify that but I would guess so.

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            Geez, I really hope this rumour isn't true. If we lose both Retallick and Whitelock, we're doomed.

            Rugby World Cup 2019: Brodie Retallick reportedly eyes $1.9m Sale contract

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110382024/all-blacks-prop-owen-franks-chooses-northampton-over-toulon-report

              Owen Franks reportedly going to Northampton.

              We're going to be hurt after this RWC - quite badly if we lose people like Retallick.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110382024/all-blacks-prop-owen-franks-chooses-northampton-over-toulon-report

                Owen Franks reportedly going to Northampton.

                We're going to be hurt after this RWC - quite badly if we lose people like Retallick.

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                @Chris-B

                Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.

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                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                  @Chris-B

                  Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.

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                  @Chester-Draws said in Exodus 2019:

                  @Chris-B

                  Did you read the article? It suggests Retallick is likely to only go for one or two years.

                  he'll come back heavy, worn out, and a bit shit.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110382024/all-blacks-prop-owen-franks-chooses-northampton-over-toulon-report

                    Owen Franks reportedly going to Northampton.

                    We're going to be hurt after this RWC - quite badly if we lose people like Retallick.

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                    @Chris-B said in Exodus 2019:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110382024/all-blacks-prop-owen-franks-chooses-northampton-over-toulon-report

                    Owen Franks reportedly going to Northampton.

                    We're going to be hurt after this RWC - quite badly if we lose people like Retallick.

                    I've been of the opinion for a while that Rettalick and Read are the difference makers in our pack (Whitelock to a slightly lesser extent), and if one, or god help us both, of those guys are a bit off, we drop back in quality a bit. If this is true we face the possibility of having neither even playing any more, then we are suddenly nothing more than a decent international pack.

                    A pretty good front row stock; as it stands now nothing in the 2nd row; and a collection of pretty underwhelming loose forwards and maybe Sam Cane.

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                      Owen Franks to Northampton Saints makes sense. Ben Franks is there. Club with lots of Kiwi connections. After a decade in Black, it is a guess of thank you and good luck. I hope Northampton's weights room is open on Christmas Day and they have a large supply of protein shakes.

                      Sale Sharks have been trying to sign a world-class lock for a while. They missed out on Joe Launchbury and Francisco Mostert last year. They have money to spend.

                      If the NZRU board get outbid on Brodie Retallick it says to me they no longer have ambition for the All Blacks to be best in the world. Lurch is the best forward in the world and a once in a generation Lock. Time for the NZRU to make him a reward he can't refuse

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Owen Franks to Northampton Saints makes sense. Ben Franks is there. Club with lots of Kiwi connections. After a decade in Black, it is a guess of thank you and good luck. I hope Northampton's weights room is open on Christmas Day and they have a large supply of protein shakes.

                        Sale Sharks have been trying to sign a world-class lock for a while. They missed out on Joe Launchbury and Francisco Mostert last year. They have money to spend.

                        If the NZRU board get outbid on Brodie Retallick it says to me they no longer have ambition for the All Blacks to be best in the world. Lurch is the best forward in the world and a once in a generation Lock. Time for the NZRU to make him a reward he can't refuse

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                        @sparky said in Exodus 2019:

                        Owen Franks to Northampton Saints makes sense. Ben Franks is there. Club with lots of Kiwi connections. After a decade in Black, it is a guess of thank you and good luck. I hope Northampton's weights room is open on Christmas Day and they have a large supply of protein shakes.

                        Sale Sharks have been trying to sign a world-class lock for a while. They missed out on Joe Lauchbury and Francisco Mosert last year. They have money to spend.

                        If the NZRU board get outbid on Brodie Retallick it says to me they no longer have ambition for the All Blacks to be best in the world. Lurch is the best player in the world and a once in a generation Lock. Time for the NZRU to make him a reward he can't refuse

                        They have to make him one of the highest one or few ABs I reckon. If they did that at least they've given it a good shot

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                          I remember Colin Meads' funeral when Stan Meads said he and Pinetree thought Brodie Retallick was the best Lock New Zealand had produced in more than 40 years. No higher endorsement to my mind. Time to offer Lurch the sort money McCaw or Carter were on.

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                            They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

                            Sometimes it ain't all about the money....

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

                              Sometimes it ain't all about the money....

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                              @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                              They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

                              Sometimes it ain't all about the money...🤣

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                              I thought Read was interested in staying? Either way they probably don't have to match the NH offers. But a strong offer is required

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                                They'll have some coin freed up with Read and Frank's departing.

                                Sometimes it ain't all about the money...🤣

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                                I thought Read was interested in staying? Either way they probably don't have to match the NH offers. But a strong offer is required

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                                @canefan Nah read has said he's off, was originally France but apparently leaning to Japan

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                                  I think a one year sabbatical with a big NZ contract on return is more likely, as little as I like it.

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                                    Brodie has said in his Instagram story today that he isn't going to Sale.

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                                      Screenshot of Brodie's insta:

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                                        BBBR is in the position of not only having achieved AB status, he is cementing a place as an all time AB great. Hopefully the NZRU can see that if they want to dangle that challenge (of being an AB great) in front of others they need to make sure it happens for those that reach those heights.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Screenshot of Brodie's insta:

                                          03885dd0-ec5f-4218-be3c-503e4289bc65-image.png

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                                          @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                                          Screenshot of Brodie's insta:

                                          03885dd0-ec5f-4218-be3c-503e4289bc65-image.png

                                          "know off"....."after david"

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