Exodus
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Hello guys, i'm looking for "unlucky" players omitted from Super Rugby squads in 2019, especially at lock and midfield. Thank you
@jauzy019 said in Exodus 2019:
Hello guys, i'm looking for "unlucky" players omitted from Super Rugby squads in 2019, especially at lock and midfield. Thank you
SNAKE!! we got a snake here!!!
Out with you snake!!
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Given the double season in Japan in 2020 I think we'll see players going there before Europe as the stress on the body will be less and decent cash
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More from the rumour mill: Sam Whitelock
All Blacks Sam Whitelock and Nehe Milner-Skudder appear set to play for Toulon after next year's Rugby World Cup in Japan. Whitelock has been linked to the French club since February 2017, and speculation both he and Milner-Skudder are on the verge of signing has ramped up.Whitelock, who has played 107 tests for the All Blacks, is contracted to New Zealand Rugby through 2020, and is understood to be in talks with NZR regarding a new four-year contract. Any new deal would certainly include a sabbatical clause, and the 30-year-old hasn't hid the fact his future might include a stint in Japan, an option more New Zealanders are considering over Europe. The lock will again captain the Crusaders in next year's Super Rugby campaign, although there is a chance he will take an extended break after the northern-tour. It could see him miss the first month of the competition, although coach Scott Robertson said "nothing is definite" until he has spoken to All Blacks coach Steve Hansen later this year. Whitelock has got through a power of work this year, leading the Crusaders to a second Super title on the bounce, and shouldering an increased load for the national side with Brodie Retallick hindered by injury. Word he and Milner-Skudder are off to Toulon follows news fullback Ben Smith has reportedly agreed to join French club Pau on a short-term deal after next year's World Cup. French rugby newspaper Midi Olympique reported the deal was as good as done last week, and said the Highlanders co-captain would then head to Japan.@stargazer The way things are going Toulon are going to be in the Pro D2 next year. All the signs are that they are not a happy playing environment.
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Hello guys, i'm looking for "unlucky" players omitted from Super Rugby squads in 2019, especially at lock and midfield. Thank you
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Hello guys, i'm looking for "unlucky" players omitted from Super Rugby squads in 2019, especially at lock and midfield. Thank you
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Kieran Read will be part of Exodus 2019. I hope someone called Bill makes an appearance at his All Blacks leaving party:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12153275
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A Wasps recruitment effort in Battersea earlier this evening?
Lima Sopoaga (@LimaSopoaga) Tweeted:
Familiar faces in new places. The brothers are in town
https://t.co/F6BxL0Dn2j https://twitter.com/LimaSopoaga/status/1059174264828518400?s=17 -
man Lima is small!
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Saffa Pom Cricketer Kevin Petersen trying to sign up BB for the IPL:
Kevin Pietersen
(@KP24) Tweeted:
Shocker! Just lost again on the golf course! Cleaned out by an @AllBlacks today - @beaudenbarrett!Wednesday I’m having you, buddy!
https://t.co/HPnaH3xyI8 https://twitter.com/KP24/status/1059091955026681856?s=17I hope Beauden spends as much time this week with his kicking tee and tackle bags as he does with his putter and his sand wedge.
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For what an article in the Daily Mail is worth ..
New Zealand are considering the radical step of releasing three of their superstars for two-year sabbaticals in Japan, in an attempt to fight off a growing financial threat to their global supremacy. Fly-half Beauden Barrett — the reigning World Player of the Year — is one of those likely to benefit from a lucrative stint in the Far East. Sportsmail understands that lock Brodie Retallick and rookie try-scoring phenomenon Rieko Ioane are the other front-line players who may be allowed to join Japanese teams in order to keep them away from Europe. The New Zealand Rugby Union are battling to prevent a damaging exodus of their leading men to French and English clubs. What was once a pre-retirement option has turned into a career move for Kiwis in their prime —which is why the NZRU are having to take emergency steps in an attempt to protect the All Blacks’ treasured status as the best in the business. The gulf in monetary clout between north and south is biting ever harder. Earlier this season, former New Zealand playmaker Lima Sopoaga, now at Wasps, claimed that more All Blacks in their 20s are likely to defect as awareness grows about their earning power.Sopoaga’s point was that the fabled black jersey itself ‘is not enough for a better life’. This appears to be dawning on increasing numbers of New Zealand players willing to sacrifice their Test career in return for a fortune overseas. Toulon are reportedly closing in on deals for All Black lock Sam Whitelock and wing Nehe Milner-Skudder, while captain Kieran Read has confirmed that he will move abroad after next year’s World Cup. That is of less concern to the NZRU as Read is 33. But Barrett is 27, as is Retallick, while Ioane is an international novice of 21. Allowing this trio to spend time in Japan is a safer bet for the Kiwi authorities than watching them commit to the blood-and-thunder intensity of elite European club rugby. It also fits in with increasing NZRU financial and sponsorship ties with rugby and government bodies in both Japan and China. What remains unclear is whether the All Blacks will relax their policy of only picking home-based players for Test rugby. Last week, flanker Matt Todd was called up for national service despite being on a short-term sabbatical with the Panasonic Wild Knights in Japan. If that selection serves as a precedent, coach Steve Hansen may yet be able to pick Barrett, Retallick and Ioane if, or when, they go to Japan. In the short-term, that keeps New Zealand strong, but it may accelerate an exodus once players sense that the strict selection policy has been compromised. Despite the commercial allure of the All Blacks brand, the NZRU lack financial clout. They do not own their own stadium and, in a relatively small economy, gate receipts are modest. In contrast, the RFU will earn in excess of £10m from Saturday’s England v New Zealand match.IMO, Brodie is the only player of the three who won't have to fear losing his grip on his starting spot any time soon. BB, however, might lose his 10 jersey to Mo'unga pretty quickly if he takes 2 seasons off from the ABs. Even Rieko is not irreplaceable. No doubt he'll still make the ABs when he returns, but he may no longer be an automatic starter. That will also depend on whether Naholo stays, of course.
I doubt Todd's case is a precedent for relaxing their home-based players only policy.
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The “cash-rich North vs the parlous South” is becoming increasingly hackneyed and inaccurate.
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The “cash-rich North vs the parlous South” is becoming increasingly hackneyed and inaccurate.
@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:
The “cash-rich North vs the parlous South” is becoming increasingly hackneyed and inaccurate.
Writers also ignore the family aspect. If you have a young family, for some, it can be very attractive to be raising the kids for a couple of years overseas with an increased income and some negotiated support in the way of nannies etc. Good chance to pocket a bit of dough to help with upcoming schooling etc too
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@derm-mccrum said in Exodus 2019:
The “cash-rich North vs the parlous South” is becoming increasingly hackneyed and inaccurate.
Writers also ignore the family aspect. If you have a young family, for some, it can be very attractive to be raising the kids for a couple of years overseas with an increased income and some negotiated support in the way of nannies etc. Good chance to pocket a bit of dough to help with upcoming schooling etc too
@crucial the travel thing is the bigger issue for me than the £'s, makes it easier to have a family life when you are only away for a few days as opposed to weeks at a time.
I think if you are smart, a fringe AB player could carve out a decent career and make good coin in NZ, but this is at the expense of starting a family or being away form the family for long periods early on (some may see this as a blessing)
The comment from Lima would indicate that players in thier 20s are farking stupid if they didnt know this already.
claimed that more All Blacks in their 20s are likely to defect as awareness grows about their earning power.
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For what an article in the Daily Mail is worth ..
New Zealand are considering the radical step of releasing three of their superstars for two-year sabbaticals in Japan, in an attempt to fight off a growing financial threat to their global supremacy. Fly-half Beauden Barrett — the reigning World Player of the Year — is one of those likely to benefit from a lucrative stint in the Far East. Sportsmail understands that lock Brodie Retallick and rookie try-scoring phenomenon Rieko Ioane are the other front-line players who may be allowed to join Japanese teams in order to keep them away from Europe. The New Zealand Rugby Union are battling to prevent a damaging exodus of their leading men to French and English clubs. What was once a pre-retirement option has turned into a career move for Kiwis in their prime —which is why the NZRU are having to take emergency steps in an attempt to protect the All Blacks’ treasured status as the best in the business. The gulf in monetary clout between north and south is biting ever harder. Earlier this season, former New Zealand playmaker Lima Sopoaga, now at Wasps, claimed that more All Blacks in their 20s are likely to defect as awareness grows about their earning power.Sopoaga’s point was that the fabled black jersey itself ‘is not enough for a better life’. This appears to be dawning on increasing numbers of New Zealand players willing to sacrifice their Test career in return for a fortune overseas. Toulon are reportedly closing in on deals for All Black lock Sam Whitelock and wing Nehe Milner-Skudder, while captain Kieran Read has confirmed that he will move abroad after next year’s World Cup. That is of less concern to the NZRU as Read is 33. But Barrett is 27, as is Retallick, while Ioane is an international novice of 21. Allowing this trio to spend time in Japan is a safer bet for the Kiwi authorities than watching them commit to the blood-and-thunder intensity of elite European club rugby. It also fits in with increasing NZRU financial and sponsorship ties with rugby and government bodies in both Japan and China. What remains unclear is whether the All Blacks will relax their policy of only picking home-based players for Test rugby. Last week, flanker Matt Todd was called up for national service despite being on a short-term sabbatical with the Panasonic Wild Knights in Japan. If that selection serves as a precedent, coach Steve Hansen may yet be able to pick Barrett, Retallick and Ioane if, or when, they go to Japan. In the short-term, that keeps New Zealand strong, but it may accelerate an exodus once players sense that the strict selection policy has been compromised. Despite the commercial allure of the All Blacks brand, the NZRU lack financial clout. They do not own their own stadium and, in a relatively small economy, gate receipts are modest. In contrast, the RFU will earn in excess of £10m from Saturday’s England v New Zealand match.IMO, Brodie is the only player of the three who won't have to fear losing his grip on his starting spot any time soon. BB, however, might lose his 10 jersey to Mo'unga pretty quickly if he takes 2 seasons off from the ABs. Even Rieko is not irreplaceable. No doubt he'll still make the ABs when he returns, but he may no longer be an automatic starter. That will also depend on whether Naholo stays, of course.
I doubt Todd's case is a precedent for relaxing their home-based players only policy.
@stargazer said in Exodus 2019:
IMO, Brodie is the only player of the three who won't have to fear losing his grip on his starting spot any time soon.
I don't really see the point of letting a wing have a sabbatical. Reiko is great and all, but he has hardly earned it. That is n't a knock either I don't think there has been an AB wing in history who has been at a point in their career where they have "deserved" one of these and still had quality performances in the tank worth waiting for.
Brodie for sure. Beaudy only if it suits the team (i.e. worth getting a look at Mo'unga and/or shaking up the attack). Ioane no way.
I wonder if these negotiations bode well for the prospect of Hansen staying on, because to some degree he would have to have some input on how the mechanics of this would work.
