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    Big excitement for the signing, even had a couple of non-rugby fan, not even sport fan types mention it. Ironically both in the medical profession with one a theatre nurse at one of the major hospitals downtown - so perhaps they have been put on alert by the team?

    Looking forward to reading the SBW autobiography someday more than watching his stint with the Wolpack. His farewells throw some pretty obvious shade (as did his refusal to say anything about Foster at the RWC).

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      Big excitement for the signing, even had a couple of non-rugby fan, not even sport fan types mention it. Ironically both in the medical profession with one a theatre nurse at one of the major hospitals downtown - so perhaps they have been put on alert by the team?

      Looking forward to reading the SBW autobiography someday more than watching his stint with the Wolpack. His farewells throw some pretty obvious shade (as did his refusal to say anything about Foster at the RWC).

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      @rotated what did he say?

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        Southland Stags prop Morgan Mitchell has signed with Kamaishi Seawaves (Japan's Top Challenge League).

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          #709

          Former Timaru BHS (2013) and Christchurch club player (Shirley RFC) departs to play professionally in the USA

          https://matangitonga.to/2019/11/08/siua-maile-lands-us-rugby-contract-after-world-cup-exposure

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          • HigginsH Higgins

            Former Timaru BHS (2013) and Christchurch club player (Shirley RFC) departs to play professionally in the USA

            https://matangitonga.to/2019/11/08/siua-maile-lands-us-rugby-contract-after-world-cup-exposure

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            @Higgins What a story that is! From club rugby player to test player at the RWC and now a pro contract in the USA. And that all in less than a year!

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @Higgins What a story that is! From club rugby player to test player at the RWC and now a pro contract in the USA. And that all in less than a year!

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              @Stargazer You will be pleased to know Ihia West is going OK for La Rochelle in their away match against Top 14 Table Toppers Lyon (I can't sleep so am watching the game on line). He is in the company of Victor Vito (Capt) and Tawera Kerr-Barlow but they are not being helped by their team mates and are currently down 38 - 17 15 minutes into the second half. Of note is that former Frog midfield back (and ocassional captain) Mathieu Fatsoreaud is playing No 8 against Vito but it looks like it won't be too much longer before he finds a new position in the front row!
              Charlie Ngatai also going ok for Lyon.

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                As already posted in the Hurricanes 2020 thread, Lincoln McClutchie has signed with a Japanese club after being snubbed for a SR contract. His club is NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes. That's the team of Liam Squire, Marty Banks and Keepa Mewett (coached by former AB Mike Brewer). It's also the team where Gareth Evans played a few games, last year.

                It's ironic that he is playing for a team called the Hurricanes ...

                http://docomo-rugby.jp/news/detail.html?id=3043

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                  Was he snubbed?

                  Is it definite that he was not offered a contract by the Hurricanes, or was not going to be offered one?

                  Is it definite that the Japanese contract did not come first, before any approach from the Hurricanes?

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                  • Number 10N Number 10

                    Was he snubbed?

                    Is it definite that he was not offered a contract by the Hurricanes, or was not going to be offered one?

                    Is it definite that the Japanese contract did not come first, before any approach from the Hurricanes?

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                    #714

                    @Number-10 said in Exodus 2019:

                    Was he snubbed?

                    Is it definite that he was not offered a contract by the Hurricanes,

                    It seems the only logic explanation. Why would a 20-year old NZ rugby player refuse a full Super Rugby contract? (Development contracts may not pay enough if you have financial responsibilities.)

                    or was not going to be offered one?

                    Do they have to buy a crystal ball to know that, or do you prefer a clairvoyant?

                    Is it definite that the Japanese contract did not come first, before any approach from the Hurricanes?

                    Most new players for the Japanese clubs were announced before the RWC. Preseason in Japan has been underway for a few weeks already. So it's reasonable to assume that they're now picking up the leftovers ...

                    But if you have inside knowledge that indicates that McClutchie refused a full SR contract to go to Japan, or that a NZ franchise made an offer after he accepted the Japanese contract, please, do tell ...

                    Edited to add that as long as there is no complete openess about why certain players were not included in the announced SR squads, you can expect speculation about players being snubbed until the facts are known. I'd love to know the facts! Unfortunately, we have to wait until a journalist asks the right questions, gets clear answers and writes them down in an article on the Stuff or NZH website.

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                      Marshall's signing was signalled early, perhaps even before the M10 Cup.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Marshall's signing was signalled early, perhaps even before the M10 Cup.

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                        @Bovidae James Marshall's (and Murphy Taramai's) signing with the Canes was announced on 2 October 2019.

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                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12285225

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                          • TimT Tim

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12285225

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                            @Tim That's all because of an article in L'Equipe. Toulon has already responded with a statement that the LNR (responsible for the French domestic competitions) has approved and signed the contract with NMS and that he will arrive at the club in December.

                            https://twitter.com/RCTofficiel/status/1194616910467543045

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Bovidae James Marshall's (and Murphy Taramai's) signing with the Canes was announced on 2 October 2019.

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                              @Stargazer But you don't know when discussions with Marshall began or the contract was signed.

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                                A list of the South African schoolboys headed to Japan, France, England, Australia & Ireland
                                Grey College
                                Tiaan Jonker: Free State, n/a, lock/eighthman, Melbourne Rebels in Australia
                                Marcell Muller: n/a, n/a, wing, Montpellier, France
                                Lesley Botha: Free State, n/a, centre, Montpellier, France
                                FC du Plessis: n/a, n/a, flyhalf, Toulon, France
                                Danwich Beukes: Free State in 2018, n/a, flank/lock, Toulon, France
                                George Cronjé: Free State, SA Schools, eighthman, France
                                Jan-Hendrik Wessels: Free State, SA Schools, prop, France

                                Paul Roos
                                Jarrod Cairns: Western Province XV, SA Schools A, loose forward, Melbourne Rebels, Australia
                                Kade Wolhuter: Western Province, n/a, fullback/flyhalf, Montpellier, France
                                Robbie Rodgers: Western Province, n/a, prop, Montpellier, France

                                Affies
                                Werner Kruger: Blue Bulls, n/a, Stade Français, prop, France
                                Jacques-Lois du Toit: Blue Bulls, SA Schools A, hooker, Stade Français, France

                                Garsfontein
                                Zeilinga Strydom: Blue Bulls, SA School, fullback ck, Stade Français
                                Jaryd Scheepers: Blue Bulls XV, n/a, lock, University in Australia

                                Paarl Gim

                                Pierich Siebert: Western Province, SA Schools A, flank, Japan
                                Stephan du Toit: Western Province XV, n/a, centre, Japan

                                Bethlehem Voortrekker
                                Steyl Barnard: n/a, n/a, lock, Béziers, France

                                Milnerton
                                Romuald Ntumba: Western Province, n/a, flank, Pau, France

                                Noordheuwel
                                Sergio Moreira: n/a, n/a, lock, Montpellier, France

                                Paarl Boys’ High
                                Rynhardt Rijnsburger: Western Province, SA Schools A, prop, unclear

                                St Andrew’s
                                Chris Poole: Eastern Province, n/a, hooker, Ulster, Ireland

                                St John’s
                                Alexander Groves: Golden Lions XV, n/a, lock, Bristol, England

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                                  A list of SA schoolboys heading overseas is really pushing the boat out when it comes to the exodus thread. Fair play for locating this somewhat esoteric information though!

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                                    The Colorado Raptors (MLR), coached by Peter Borlase, have signed several Kiwis:

                                    Rene Ranger (Northland)
                                    Mason Emerson (Hawke's Bay)
                                    Michael Curry ( Ta$man)
                                    Michael Stewart (Southland)
                                    Samuel Slade (Counties Manukau)

                                    Also signed:
                                    Digby Ioane

                                    https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-rene-ranger-as-final-signing-for-the-2020-season/
                                    https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-new-and-returning-players-for-its-2020-season/

                                    The round robin of the MLR is from 8 February to 31 May 2020.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      The Colorado Raptors (MLR), coached by Peter Borlase, have signed several Kiwis:

                                      Rene Ranger (Northland)
                                      Mason Emerson (Hawke's Bay)
                                      Michael Curry ( Ta$man)
                                      Michael Stewart (Southland)
                                      Samuel Slade (Counties Manukau)

                                      Also signed:
                                      Digby Ioane

                                      https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-rene-ranger-as-final-signing-for-the-2020-season/
                                      https://coloradoraptors.com/news/raptors-announce-new-and-returning-players-for-its-2020-season/

                                      The round robin of the MLR is from 8 February to 31 May 2020.

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                                      @Stargazer knew Ranger was heading to the US just hadn't heard where...think he will be back for M10 though, hes keen to notch up his ton for Northland.

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                                        A few more players who have signed with Major League Teams (not all are very recent signings, so may have been mentioned before):

                                        Sam Beard (Canterbury) - has signed for two seasons with New England Free Jacks

                                        Contract duration not published:
                                        Boyd Wiggins (Northland): to Houston Saber Cats
                                        Tim Cadwallader (Manawatu): to Houston Saber Cats
                                        Jason Robertson (BOP): to Old Glory DC
                                        Danny Tusitala (Auckland): to Old Glory DC

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          A few more players who have signed with Major League Teams (not all are very recent signings, so may have been mentioned before):

                                          Sam Beard (Canterbury) - has signed for two seasons with New England Free Jacks

                                          Contract duration not published:
                                          Boyd Wiggins (Northland): to Houston Saber Cats
                                          Tim Cadwallader (Manawatu): to Houston Saber Cats
                                          Jason Robertson (BOP): to Old Glory DC
                                          Danny Tusitala (Auckland): to Old Glory DC

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                                          @Stargazer add Northland Midfielder Blake Hohaia to the list..
                                          I am starting to wonder if this is an issue or a benefit..?

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