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  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

    @sparky
    I'd say this has way less to do with the Blues than the financial situation of NZR. Offload your highest paycheck for 2 years knowing he'll be back likely fresher than when he left and in time for another RWC.

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    @mofitzy_ said in Exodus:

    @sparky
    I'd say this has way less to do with the Blues than the financial situation of NZR. Offload your highest paycheck for 2 years knowing he'll be back likely fresher than when he left and in time for another RWC.

    Good luck to Beauden. I hope he makes lots and lots and lots of Yen in Japan.

    Then comes home to Hurricanes and plays 1st 5 for free.

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    • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

      @sparky
      I'd say this has way less to do with the Blues than the financial situation of NZR. Offload your highest paycheck for 2 years knowing he'll be back likely fresher than when he left and in time for another RWC.

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      @mofitzy_ good luck to him ousting Mitch Hunt for the top job at the RWC.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        He also wouldn't be doing his 'eddie' job if he didn't attempt to wind up some kiwis.

        But, then again, he actually went through with it with Brad Shields ...

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        @Rapido said in Exodus:

        He also wouldn't be doing his 'eddie' job if he didn't attempt to wind up some kiwis.

        But, then again, he actually went through with it with Brad Shields ...

        Yeah, he even kept up the charade by picking him for a few tests before discarding him when it actually counted

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          @Rapido said in Exodus:

          He also wouldn't be doing his 'eddie' job if he didn't attempt to wind up some kiwis.

          But, then again, he actually went through with it with Brad Shields ...

          Yeah, he even kept up the charade by picking him for a few tests before discarding him when it actually counted

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          @junior said in Exodus:

          @Rapido said in Exodus:

          He also wouldn't be doing his 'eddie' job if he didn't attempt to wind up some kiwis.

          But, then again, he actually went through with it with Brad Shields ...

          Yeah, he even kept up the charade by picking him for a few tests before discarding him when it actually counted

          You could say that he "dropped" Brad, which would be appropriate.

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            KiwiMurph
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            #869

            Confirmed as a 1 season sabbatical for Beauden Barrett. Will only miss 2021 Super Rugby. Back for 2021 test rugby (who knows what that will look like).

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              Confirmed: Beauden Barrett to play in Japan next season

              Barrett, who signed a four-year deal with New Zealand Rugby and the Blues last year, will miss next year’s Super Rugby season and play for the Suntory Sungoliath club based in Tokyo, before returning to New Zealand for the 2021 international season. He will then remain in New Zealand for the rest of his contract until 2023.

              The plan to play in Japan in 2021 is part of Barrett’s four-year deal agreed last year with New Zealand Rugby (NZR) and the Blues.

              https://www.allblacks.com/news/barrett-to-play-in-japan-next-season/

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                Confirmed: Beauden Barrett to play in Japan next season

                Barrett, who signed a four-year deal with New Zealand Rugby and the Blues last year, will miss next year’s Super Rugby season and play for the Suntory Sungoliath club based in Tokyo, before returning to New Zealand for the 2021 international season. He will then remain in New Zealand for the rest of his contract until 2023.

                The plan to play in Japan in 2021 is part of Barrett’s four-year deal agreed last year with New Zealand Rugby (NZR) and the Blues.

                https://www.allblacks.com/news/barrett-to-play-in-japan-next-season/

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                @Stargazer
                Don't know where they got the 2 years from. 1 season is much better.

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                  That sort of works out well for the Blues because we still have Otere Black contracted for next season. It would've been a massive blow for us if Beauden took his sabbatical in 2022 and Otere left in 2022 too.

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                  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                    @Stargazer
                    Don't know where they got the 2 years from. 1 season is much better.

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                    @mofitzy_ said in Exodus:

                    @Stargazer
                    Don't know where they got the 2 years from. 1 season is much better.

                    UK press, those that care about rugby rather than soccer, would do anything to belittle NZ and ABs rugby? I mean could you imagine the furour if a former AB Captain had been banned for drug use - on a 3rd strike? The Walrus would die of happiness in an explosion of vitriol. In the UK, SA & Boks (pretty much rampant by the numbers of school boys) drug abuse is barely mentioned. Not mentioned here much either, as they are our SANZAAR partners, and biggest foes.

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                      Fuck off Beauden stay in Japan.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Fuck off Beauden stay in Japan.

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                        @mariner4life said in Exodus:

                        Fuck off Beauden stay in Japan.

                        Sorry what is going on?

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                          Barrett is the tip of the iceberg now. He's a full-on mercenary. 1 year at the Blues and then his bitch ass* is off to Japan to prolong what in my opinion is a career in decline. I think COVID will see a lot of players making that same jaunt to cash grab. They've been stung in the pocket and they only have a small window to be worthy of larger paydays. I don't begrudge them that given the way things are.

                          *hes a bitch ass because he should have stayed at the canes not because he fucking off.

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                          • raznomoreR raznomore

                            Barrett is the tip of the iceberg now. He's a full-on mercenary. 1 year at the Blues and then his bitch ass* is off to Japan to prolong what in my opinion is a career in decline. I think COVID will see a lot of players making that same jaunt to cash grab. They've been stung in the pocket and they only have a small window to be worthy of larger paydays. I don't begrudge them that given the way things are.

                            *hes a bitch ass because he should have stayed at the canes not because he fucking off.

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                            @raznomore said in Exodus:

                            Barrett is the tip of the iceberg now. He's a full-on mercenary. 1 year at the Blues and then his bitch ass* is off to Japan to prolong what in my opinion is a career in decline. I think COVID will see a lot of players making that same jaunt to cash grab. They've been stung in the pocket and they only have a small window to be worthy of larger paydays. I don't begrudge them that given the way things are.

                            *hes a bitch ass because he should have stayed at the canes not because he fucking off.

                            Having the RWC in Japan, which has obviously made Japan a more desirable destination for players, IMO, changes the landscape somewhat. With Japan being in the same time zone, it opens the door to potentially brining their Top League Clubs into a meaningful competition with Oz and NZ, but importantly means that guys can head over there for a pay check, but still get selected for the ABs because they're playing in the same comp, in the same season structure. I think we are at least 4-5 years from that happening but to me it seems like the logical and reasonable for our guys to get paid while still being able to play in black.

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                              #878

                              When the new Japanese pro league starts, there will be flood. But not now, because of covid. Covid will actually make players more sticky. Barrett's deal is still for old japanese company league structure.

                              When the Japanese new league does happen in 2021 or 22 or whenever it is, I think we shouldn't fight it. If play in a Pacific timezone with a league that doesn't wreck players and respects and dovetails with test windows- then available for ABs.

                              Even better if we can slide into the action a bit with a Pacific club champions league thing.

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                              • RapidoR Rapido

                                When the new Japanese pro league starts, there will be flood. But not now, because of covid. Covid will actually make players more sticky. Barrett's deal is still for old japanese company league structure.

                                When the Japanese new league does happen in 2021 or 22 or whenever it is, I think we shouldn't fight it. If play in a Pacific timezone with a league that doesn't wreck players and respects and dovetails with test windows- then available for ABs.

                                Even better if we can slide into the action a bit with a Pacific club champions league thing.

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                                @Rapido I disagree 100%. Players playing for overseas' clubs should definitely not be ABs eligible, if they don't play in the same competition as the NZ based players.

                                Rennie had something to say about the eligibility of Wallabies players in the article below. I think the same should apply to ABs.

                                • Preference for locally playing players
                                • Possibly, also players playing for overseas' clubs in SR (same competition)
                                • Not players from other competitions

                                https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/06/22/wallabies-rennie-eligibility

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                                  Not getting the Beauden hate at all. Professional sport is a short precarious career. Just look what happened to his older brother. I more than understand why a player would look for ways to increase their earnings. Japan is a massive market, playing for a little bit will increase his off field earnings too.

                                  Beauden Barrett has already been involved in two All Blacks RWC campaigns and played 82 internationals. Looks like he wants to add to those numbers and make some coin. Good on him. 👍

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                                    I will be gutted if we lose Hoskins Sotutu.
                                    Right now we don't have an AB 8, and he is by far the most exciting prospect, it would make no sense to me if he doesn't make the squad.

                                    Barret.... good luck to him, already dead to me after leaving the Canes. 😉

                                    But if his little money making trip keeps him in NZ longer, than that is great.

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/report-eddie-jones-intent-on-brazenly-luring-hoskins-sotutu-to-england/

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                                      @Yeetyaah said in Exodus:

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/report-eddie-jones-intent-on-brazenly-luring-hoskins-sotutu-to-england/

                                      Hoskins Sotutu signed with The Blues until 2022. Eddie Jones will have to lure more skilfully next time.

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                                        Official

                                        https://blues.rugby/fast-developing-sotutu-to-extend-time-with-the-blues/

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                                          Official

                                          https://blues.rugby/fast-developing-sotutu-to-extend-time-with-the-blues/

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