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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Lua Li has re-signed with San Diego Legion.

    https://twitter.com/SDLegion/status/1318990715263700992

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      The NSW Waratahs have signed Sam Caird ahead of the 2021 Super Rugby season, with the former New Zealand U20 representative putting pen-to-paper on a two-year deal.

      Caird – who cuts an imposing figure at over 202cm – will strengthen Rob Penney’s depth at lock, following the recent signing of Sam Wykes for the 2021 season.

      The Waikato junior was part of the New Zealand U20 program in 2016 and 2017, alongside making several appearances for his home province in the Mitre 10 Cup.

      A move to Northland in 2019 coincided with his involvement with Leon McDonald’s Auckland Blues, turning out for several ‘A’ games throughout 2020.

      NSWRU General Manager of Rugby, Tim Rapp said that Caird’s signing provided balance to the squad’s second-row stocks.

      “It [second row] is an area we’ve needed to pay attention from a recruiting perspective,” Rapp said.

      “Sam has spent the majority of this year around the Blues system, training alongside and learning from some really experienced locks whilst continuing to develop his game in the Mitre 10 Cup.

      “He’s a young guy whose got great potential and he now has the opportunity to work with Matt [Cockbain] and Rob [Penney] to take his game to that next level.”

      NSW Waratahs Head Coach, Rob Penney said he’d been really impressed with what he’d seen from Caird in provincial rugby.

      “He’s got a great profile [202cm and 116kg] for a lock, that size and physicality is something every team needs at this level,” Penney said.

      “Everything we’ve seen of Sam tells us he knows how to impart that [physicality] onto a contest and his work at the set piece is first class.

      “His numbers from the Mitre 10 Cup are really impressive and we’ve done our due diligence to ensure he’s the right fit for us.

      “He’s had some glowing recommendations from around the game and we’re looking forward to bringing him in for pre-season.”

      Caird said he was excited about the prospect of crossing the Ta$man to join the Waratahs.

      “I just can’t wait to meet the boys and get started,” Caird said.

      “I’ve heard great things about the program that the Waratahs are running, there’s lots of young guys who have come in and are really excelling at Super Rugby level and I’m keen to be a part of that.

      “They’ve been playing an exciting brand of rugby, which is the style of game you want to be playing week-in-week-out.

      “I’m just thankful to Tim [Rapp] and Rob [Penney] for the opportunity to be involved with the club.”

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      • mofitzy_M Offline
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        Physically he certainly has a great profile. I'm completely ignorant of him as a player, what kind of a loss is this?

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        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

          Physically he certainly has a great profile. I'm completely ignorant of him as a player, what kind of a loss is this?

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          #930

          @mofitzy_ he's a decent player with some good size. Given our shortage of locks it's a bit of a loss.

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          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

            @mofitzy_ he's a decent player with some good size. Given our shortage of locks it's a bit of a loss.

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            OleOleOle
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            @Yeetyaah certainly fits the bill but still needs to impose himself physically...good luck to him!

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            • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

              Physically he certainly has a great profile. I'm completely ignorant of him as a player, what kind of a loss is this?

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              taniwharugby
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              @mofitzy_ while he hasnt nailed a starting spot for us, he has started several games.

              I'd have liked him to stay on as I think he has real potential, particularly if he adds a bit of size to his frame as he does look a bit lean, that I expect he will in a fully professional environment, which I expect will help with his physicality.

              He was in the Blues WTG or Dev team this season and acquitted himself well,IIRC think there was an opportunity for him to get some real Blues action too following an injury but they went somewhere else?

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                You can only assume that Caird knew he wasn't going to be offered a Blues contract, or picked up by another SR team. So better to take a contract on the table than hope for an opportunity to come your way. Only 23 though.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  You can only assume that Caird knew he wasn't going to be offered a Blues contract, or picked up by another SR team. So better to take a contract on the table than hope for an opportunity to come your way. Only 23 though.

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                  Only 23 though.

                  Maybe he has Aussie heritage?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                    Only 23 though.

                    Maybe he has Aussie heritage?

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                    #935

                    @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

                    @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                    Only 23 though.

                    Maybe he has Aussie heritage?

                    Looks more Scottish. 😉

                    He's from Cambridge and went to school at St Peter's. I don't know anymore than that.

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                      I always thought Caird was more than useful he needed to bulk up which I think has held him back, A few more kilos he would be handy at SR level at least.

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                        #937

                        So Blackwell can get a locking spot in a NZ’s super team but Caird can’t?

                        NZ rugby is odd sometimes.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          So Blackwell can get a locking spot in a NZ’s super team but Caird can’t?

                          NZ rugby is odd sometimes.

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                          mikey07
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                          @Nepia But Caird doesn’t play for Wellington so of course he’s isn’t going to get a Canes contract 😂

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                            From the Sydney Morning Herald:

                            The Canterbury Bulldogs will use legendary All Blacks coach Steve Hansen to scour the best rugby union talent across the Ta$man after announcing the World Cup winner will join the club as a high-performance consultant.

                            I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123233161/former-all-blacks-coach-steve-hansen-joins-bulldogs-as-a-consultant

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                              From the Sydney Morning Herald:

                              The Canterbury Bulldogs will use legendary All Blacks coach Steve Hansen to scour the best rugby union talent across the Ta$man after announcing the World Cup winner will join the club as a high-performance consultant.

                              I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123233161/former-all-blacks-coach-steve-hansen-joins-bulldogs-as-a-consultant

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                              #940

                              @Tim said in Exodus:

                              I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                              He is to me.

                              "Legendary", Really?

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                                @Tim said in Exodus:

                                I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                                He is to me.

                                "Legendary", Really?

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                                @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                @Tim said in Exodus:

                                I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                                He is to me.

                                "Legendary", Really?

                                Dead to me

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  @Tim said in Exodus:

                                  I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

                                  He is to me.

                                  "Legendary", Really?

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                                  @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                  "Legendary", Really?

                                  what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                                  16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                    "Legendary", Really?

                                    what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                                    16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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                                    @nzzp Yep I am. Failed towards the end, probably should have gone earlier.

                                    Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and his achievements are significant, but so are some of the failures. Great, yes. Legend, no for me.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                      "Legendary", Really?

                                      what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                                      16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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                                      Snowy
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                                      @nzzp said in Exodus:

                                      @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                      "Legendary", Really?

                                      what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                                      16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

                                      Just to elaborate - your own post says it all.
                                      "Assistant",
                                      "On the back of amazing players"

                                      Yes he was a part of a great team.

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                        "Legendary", Really?

                                        what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                                        16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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                                        akan004
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                                        #945

                                        @nzzp I think he would have been legendary had he called it quits in 2017. But his last three years makes me wonder if he was made to look better than he actually was with the various GOATs in the team as well as having Wayne Smith in the coaching setup.

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                                          @nzzp I think he would have been legendary had he called it quits in 2017. But his last three years makes me wonder if he was made to look better than he actually was with the various GOATs in the team as well as having Wayne Smith in the coaching setup.

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                                          Bones
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                                          @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

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