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  • TimT Away
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    From the Sydney Morning Herald:

    The Canterbury Bulldogs will use legendary All Blacks coach Steve Hansen to scour the best rugby union talent across the Ta$man after announcing the World Cup winner will join the club as a high-performance consultant.

    I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123233161/former-all-blacks-coach-steve-hansen-joins-bulldogs-as-a-consultant

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    • TimT Tim

      From the Sydney Morning Herald:

      The Canterbury Bulldogs will use legendary All Blacks coach Steve Hansen to scour the best rugby union talent across the Ta$man after announcing the World Cup winner will join the club as a high-performance consultant.

      I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/123233161/former-all-blacks-coach-steve-hansen-joins-bulldogs-as-a-consultant

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      @Tim said in Exodus:

      I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

      He is to me.

      "Legendary", Really?

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        @Tim said in Exodus:

        I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

        He is to me.

        "Legendary", Really?

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        @Snowy said in Exodus:

        @Tim said in Exodus:

        I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

        He is to me.

        "Legendary", Really?

        Dead to me

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @Tim said in Exodus:

          I wonder if Hansen will describe himself as an "ex-New Zealander" now?

          He is to me.

          "Legendary", Really?

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          @Snowy said in Exodus:

          "Legendary", Really?

          what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

          16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @Snowy said in Exodus:

            "Legendary", Really?

            what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

            16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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            @nzzp Yep I am. Failed towards the end, probably should have gone earlier.

            Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and his achievements are significant, but so are some of the failures. Great, yes. Legend, no for me.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @Snowy said in Exodus:

              "Legendary", Really?

              what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

              16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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              @nzzp said in Exodus:

              @Snowy said in Exodus:

              "Legendary", Really?

              what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

              16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

              Just to elaborate - your own post says it all.
              "Assistant",
              "On the back of amazing players"

              Yes he was a part of a great team.

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @Snowy said in Exodus:

                "Legendary", Really?

                what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

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                #945

                @nzzp I think he would have been legendary had he called it quits in 2017. But his last three years makes me wonder if he was made to look better than he actually was with the various GOATs in the team as well as having Wayne Smith in the coaching setup.

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                  @nzzp I think he would have been legendary had he called it quits in 2017. But his last three years makes me wonder if he was made to look better than he actually was with the various GOATs in the team as well as having Wayne Smith in the coaching setup.

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                  @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

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                    @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

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                    @Bones said in Exodus:

                    @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

                    "YOU ARE A FILTHY QUITTER YOU FAT JUDAS FUCK!!

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Bones said in Exodus:

                      @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

                      "YOU ARE A FILTHY QUITTER YOU FAT JUDAS FUCK!!

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                      @mariner4life said in Exodus:

                      @Bones said in Exodus:

                      @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

                      "YOU ARE A FILTHY QUITTER YOU FAT JUDAS FUCK!!

                      He's fat! Haha!

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                      • TimT Away
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                        #949

                        Nine replies and not one mention of the Pat Lam jibe yet?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

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                          Machpants
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                          @Bones said in Exodus:

                          @akan004 yeah like he wouldn't have had truckloads of shit thrown at him for foisting Foster on us midway through the RWC cycle.

                          Nah that was the plan which we all thought was sensible. Bed in post 2015 goat etc exodus, do the lions, then leave. Perfect sense, only 2016 was undefeated year and so they signed him for two extra years, sadly when we got to 2017 it was obviously a year too far

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            @nzzp said in Exodus:

                            @Snowy said in Exodus:

                            "Legendary", Really?

                            what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                            16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

                            Just to elaborate - your own post says it all.
                            "Assistant",
                            "On the back of amazing players"

                            Yes he was a part of a great team.

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                            @Snowy said in Exodus:

                            @nzzp said in Exodus:

                            @Snowy said in Exodus:

                            "Legendary", Really?

                            what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                            16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

                            Just to elaborate - your own post says it all.
                            "Assistant",
                            "On the back of amazing players"

                            Yes he was a part of a great team.

                            so, do you think there were any 'legendary' AB coaches? Interested - if Shag doesn't make the cut, who does?

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @Snowy said in Exodus:

                              @nzzp said in Exodus:

                              @Snowy said in Exodus:

                              "Legendary", Really?

                              what else would he have to do? Assistant during 8 dominant years leading up to a RWC, head coach for a RWC cycle that we dominated and (in hindsight) purred to victory on the back of a clutch of amazing players, and then 4 years which were bumpy where we just didn't get up at the end.

                              16 years with the ABs, 2RWC, Bledisloe Cups, RC and Tri Nations, Grand Slams ... yuo're a tough marker!

                              Just to elaborate - your own post says it all.
                              "Assistant",
                              "On the back of amazing players"

                              Yes he was a part of a great team.

                              so, do you think there were any 'legendary' AB coaches? Interested - if Shag doesn't make the cut, who does?

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                              @nzzp Needle and Ted for me

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                @nzzp Needle and Ted for me

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                                nzzp
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                                @Siam said in Exodus:

                                @nzzp Needle and Ted for me

                                Was thinking Needle.

                                My 'legendary' AB head coaches would be (in no particular order)
                                Allen (hearsay, before my time, but ermagerd)
                                Hansen
                                Henry

                                Smith gets in by association and body of work as an assistant.

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                                • SiamS Siam

                                  @nzzp Needle and Ted for me

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                                  Snowy
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                                  #954

                                  @Siam said in Exodus:

                                  @nzzp Needle and Ted for me

                                  Those are the two that I would have said.

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    If you look at their full body of work there is no way you can rank Henry ahead of Hansen.

                                    Henry 85% (1st and QF loss at RWCs)
                                    Hansen 87% (1st and 3rd at RWCs)

                                    As said, Fred Allen never lost a test match but didn't play SA in that streak.

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                                      If you look at their full body of work there is no way you can rank Henry ahead of Hansen.

                                      Henry 85% (1st and QF loss at RWCs)
                                      Hansen 87% (1st and 3rd at RWCs)

                                      As said, Fred Allen never lost a test match but didn't play SA in that streak.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                      QF loss at RWCs)

                                      I don't count that one. Only one person was completely responsible for that.

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                                        @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                        QF loss at RWCs)

                                        I don't count that one. Only one person was completely responsible for that.

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                                        @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                        @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                        QF loss at RWCs)

                                        I don't count that one. Only one person was completely responsible for that.

                                        That's brutal on McAlister

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                                        • WurzelW Wurzel

                                          @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                          @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                          QF loss at RWCs)

                                          I don't count that one. Only one person was completely responsible for that.

                                          That's brutal on McAlister

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                                          @Wurzel said in Exodus:

                                          @Snowy said in Exodus:

                                          @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                          QF loss at RWCs)

                                          I don't count that one. Only one person was completely responsible for that.

                                          That's brutal on McAlister

                                          Pretty sure Wayne has a different surname. I'll think about it...

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