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2019 under 20's

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    The NZU20 team list for the game against Fiji hasn't been posted, yet, but Fiji has announced its team.

    Fijian Under-20 Team

    1 Livai Natave, 2 Tevita Ikanivere {c}, 3 Joseva Nasaroa, 4 Etonia Waqa, 5 Christopher Minimbi, 6 Vilive Miramira, 7 Alivereti Loaloa, 8 Eparama Sailo
    9 Simione Kuruvoli, 10 Caleb Muntz, 11 Epeli Momo, 12 Veresa Ramototabua, 13 Ilaisa Droasese, 14 Kaminieli Rasaku, 15 Osea Waqa

    Reserves
    16 Lino Vasuinadi, 17 Meli Sikoijeriko, 18 Emosi Tuqiri, 19 Taniela Ramasibana, 20 Anasa Qaranivalu, 21 Josh Vuta, 22 Taniela Soqonawasaliwa, 23 Osea Natoga

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      Proctor will most likely start at centre if he is released - Toala to fullback.

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      @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

      Proctor will most likely start at centre if he is released - Toala to fullback.

      It looks like Proctor hasn't been released. He's in the MSP line-up to play club rugby tomorrow.

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        #113

        Interesting, I think he will be available for the WC though won't he??

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          Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

          1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
          2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
          3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
          4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
          5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
          6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
          7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
          8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
          9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
          10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
          11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
          12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
          13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
          14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
          15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

          Reserves:
          16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
          17 George Dyer (Waikato)
          18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
          19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
          20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
          21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
          22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
          23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
          24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
          25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
          26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
          27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
          28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
          
          Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
          
          Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
          

          Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

          http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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          • StargazerS Offline
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            #115

            Junior Wallabies team to play Japan: https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/04/25/oceania-junior-wallabies-japan-team

            Japan U20 team to play Australia, in Japanese or in French (will replace these links, once I find the line-up in English)

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

              1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
              2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
              3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
              4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
              5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
              6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
              7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
              8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
              9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
              10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
              11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
              12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
              13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
              14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
              15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

              Reserves:
              16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
              17 George Dyer (Waikato)
              18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
              19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
              20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
              21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
              22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
              23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
              24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
              25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
              26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
              27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
              28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

              A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
              
              Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
              
              Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
              

              Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

              http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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              @Stargazer

              A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

              Sheesh!

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Stargazer

                A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                Sheesh!

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                #117

                @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                @Stargazer

                A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                Sheesh!

                WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

                  1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                  2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                  3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                  4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                  5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                  6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                  7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                  8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                  9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                  10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                  11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
                  12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
                  13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                  14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
                  15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

                  Reserves:
                  16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
                  17 George Dyer (Waikato)
                  18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
                  19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
                  20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                  21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                  22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                  23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
                  24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                  25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                  26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                  27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
                  28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

                  A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
                  
                  Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
                  
                  Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
                  

                  Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

                  HigginsH Offline
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                  #118

                  @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                  Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:
                  3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)

                  When did he sign for the 'Poo as he was still playing at tighthead for Petone as late as 13 April?

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                  • HigginsH Higgins

                    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                    Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:
                    3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)

                    When did he sign for the 'Poo as he was still playing at tighthead for Petone as late as 13 April?

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #119

                    @Higgins Yeah, I noticed that, too. Peter Russell has been busy (re-)signing players since he arrived ...

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                    • HigginsH Offline
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                      Oh no, Peter Russell coaching at the 'Poo. I was completely unaware of that. He was such a nice guy that I had a great deal of time for previously.

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                        #121

                        Kaliopasi Uluilakepa is from Wellington, is that Manawatu a typo or has he signed for them?

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                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                          @Stargazer

                          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                          Sheesh!

                          WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

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                          @mariner4life said in 2019 under 20's:

                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                          @Stargazer

                          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                          Sheesh!

                          WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

                          I'm starting to believe World Rugby hates the game.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

                            1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                            2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                            3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                            4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                            5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                            6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                            7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                            8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                            9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                            10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                            11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
                            12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
                            13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                            14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
                            15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

                            Reserves:
                            16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
                            17 George Dyer (Waikato)
                            18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
                            19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
                            20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                            21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                            22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                            23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
                            24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                            25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                            26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                            27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
                            28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

                            A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
                            
                            Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
                            
                            Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
                            

                            Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

                            http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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                            @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                            A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                            Looks simply to be some sort of organised payback to the jersey manufacturers if all teams have to have jerseys numbered from sixteen through to and including twenty eight. Not sure what the rationale behind it is as most club sides below Premier struggle to have more than three or four on their bench at the best of times.

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                              @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                              A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                              Looks simply to be some sort of organised payback to the jersey manufacturers if all teams have to have jerseys numbered from sixteen through to and including twenty eight. Not sure what the rationale behind it is as most club sides below Premier struggle to have more than three or four on their bench at the best of times.

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                              Eventually we'll have to go back to numbering from fullback forwards - once we get to triple figures on the shirt, only the props will be wide enough to fit the numbering,

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Kaliopasi Uluilakepa is from Wellington, is that Manawatu a typo or has he signed for them?

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                                @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

                                Kaliopasi Uluilakepa is from Wellington, is that Manawatu a typo or has he signed for them?

                                Not really, he was "encouraged" to come to Wellington by a paid employee of the WRFU and surprise surprise ended up playing for a club the paid employee has had an association with.
                                http://www.clubrugby.nz/2019/04/17/pasi-uluilakepa-working-hard-for-rugby-success/

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                                  A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                                  Looks simply to be some sort of organised payback to the jersey manufacturers if all teams have to have jerseys numbered from sixteen through to and including twenty eight. Not sure what the rationale behind it is as most club sides below Premier struggle to have more than three or four on their bench at the best of times.

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                                  @Higgins One rationale could be to prevent a situation like in the Reds v Crusaders match, where a player goes off and the replacement player gets injured, and the team is not able to replace the injured player because they've run out of players on the bench that can replace him. With the new rule, they won't be able to sub more players than is the case now, but they have a larger number of players to pick their subs from.

                                  As WR is very focused on player welfare in most of its law trials, I assume there's a player welfare reason behind it.

                                  It's only a trial; there's no way we can predict whether they aim to introduce this new law at all levels of rugby (if at all). Maybe only for U20, or only for national representative teams.

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                                    Goodness that could mean the All Blacks touring squad could go from the already staggering 50 odd they took to Japan to something closer to 70.

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                                    • HigginsH Higgins

                                      Goodness that could mean the All Blacks touring squad could go from the already staggering 50 odd they took to Japan to something closer to 70.

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                                      @Higgins Why? They can easily pick those players from the squads they have. Five of them won't play, after all, and are usually involved in the warming-up anyway.

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                                      • HigginsH Higgins

                                        @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

                                        Kaliopasi Uluilakepa is from Wellington, is that Manawatu a typo or has he signed for them?

                                        Not really, he was "encouraged" to come to Wellington by a paid employee of the WRFU and surprise surprise ended up playing for a club the paid employee has had an association with.
                                        http://www.clubrugby.nz/2019/04/17/pasi-uluilakepa-working-hard-for-rugby-success/

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                                        @Higgins I don't mean he was born here, I was meaning that he is playing his rugby in Wellington. Must be a shocking culture at the Lions - that's Carlos Price, Malo Tuitama, Uluilakepa and Walker-Leawere all deciding to move on from Wellington Rugby.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @Higgins One rationale could be to prevent a situation like in the Reds v Crusaders match, where a player goes off and the replacement player gets injured, and the team is not able to replace the injured player because they've run out of players on the bench that can replace him. With the new rule, they won't be able to sub more players than is the case now, but they have a larger number of players to pick their subs from.

                                          As WR is very focused on player welfare in most of its law trials, I assume there's a player welfare reason behind it.

                                          It's only a trial; there's no way we can predict whether they aim to introduce this new law at all levels of rugby (if at all). Maybe only for U20, or only for national representative teams.

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                                          #130

                                          @Stargazer I think in the event that 2 TH props or 2 hookers or 2 LH props are injured in a game (must be fairly rare, although not unheard of) having to go back to golden oldies isnt a huge deal for as how infrequently it will happen, cos we know this is where the concerns are mostly...

                                          Of those 13 on the bench, assume it will be pretty heavy (front rowers) that reason?

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