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2019 Rugby Championship

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    I can see the theory in picking Aumua.

    If they can iron out his creases his upside is huge. Far bigger upside than Harris or Coltman.

    They believe he has matured a lot since he showed up overweight to Super Rugby last year so they prob think he is in a good spot to develop.

    If it doesn't work you can always go back to Nathan Harris if needed.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I can see the theory in picking Aumua.

      If they can iron out his creases his upside is huge. Far bigger upside than Harris or Coltman.

      They believe he has matured a lot since he showed up overweight to Super Rugby last year so they prob think he is in a good spot to develop.

      If it doesn't work you can always go back to Nathan Harris if needed.

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      @KiwiMurph

      Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

      He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

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        @KiwiMurph

        Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

        He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

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        @Jaguares4real Yeah he's still bloody young (just turned 22).

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          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

          Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

          Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

          He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

          Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

          But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

          He played some other teams too this year apart from Argentina. Argentina is hardly the litmus test of a good or bad game

          :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

          I see we have a Phil Kearns clone on this forum 🤡

          Jaguares were the 2nd best team the Hurricanes played this year and the Canes got dusted up

          Playing average sides and looking good don't mean shit in Super Rugby

          I'll make it simple for you.......

          Jaguares are club side playing Super Rugby

          Argentina is a country in South America who have an International rugby side called Los Pumas

          If you require any more explanations, I'd be happy to help you 🙏

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          @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

          Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

          Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

          He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

          Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

          But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

          He played some other teams too this year apart from Argentina. Argentina is hardly the litmus test of a good or bad game

          :face_with_tears_of_joy: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

          I see we have a Phil Kearns clone on this forum 🤡

          Jaguares were the 2nd best team the Hurricanes played this year and the Canes got dusted up

          Playing average sides and looking good don't mean shit in Super Rugby

          I'll make it simple for you.......

          Jaguares are club side playing Super Rugby

          Argentina is a country in South America who have an International rugby side called Los Pumas

          If you require any more explanations, I'd be happy to help you 🙏

          Sorry! They just all look the same to me!

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          • SammyCS SammyC

            Hansen re Akira:

            It’s the same problem he’s always had, came into the season not fit enough. He played every game for the blues and at the same time was trying to get fit so he’s a tired athlete. We didn’t see the best of him during super rugby.

            We know what’s under the surface, we just need him to take ownership. You can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink.

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            @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            Hansen re Akira:

            It’s the same problem he’s always had, came into the season not fit enough. He played every game for the blues and at the same time was trying to get fit so he’s a tired athlete. We didn’t see the best of him during super rugby.

            We know what’s under the surface, we just need him to take ownership. You can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink.

            Spot on, I am afraid. I was hoping after the NPC that Akira had learned the errors of his ways but his fitness and attitude were disappointing in Super Rugby this year. Could be fantastic, but could be isn't good enough.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @cgrant With Aumua the All Blacks probably see an opportunity to unleash a beast, whereas Harris has probably reached his ceiling in terms of potential.

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              @Canes4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @cgrant With Aumua the All Blacks probably see an opportunity to unleash a beast, whereas Harris has probably reached his ceiling in terms of potential.

              Actually I'm pleased to see Aumua there. It is obvious that Taylor, Coles and Coltman are the top three. Harris is a safe, but dull back up. Aumua has lots of potential. The All Blacks coaches are backing themselves to improve him. Probably see him as more coachable than Akira Ioane. I thought Aumua played well in the last few rounds of Super Rugby. Certainly fitter.

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              • number9N number9

                So how does that drop kick Aumua make the ABs when he has played like shit all season.

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                @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                So how does that drop kick Aumua make the ABs when he has played like shit all season.

                Nah, Aumua's done well in the last few rounds.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

                  Clearly you missed those four tries that Jordie scored on his last outing with the ABs.............

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                  • CanerbryC Canerbry

                    SBW in and Havili not is a miscarriage of justice.

                    Pure sponsorship/politics/manure, and it should forever shut you fucks up moaning about players getting in just because they're red & black.

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                    @Canerbry said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    SBW in and Havili not is a miscarriage of justice.

                    Pure sponsorship/politics/manure, and it should forever shut you fucks up moaning about players getting in just because they're red & black.

                    I would have loved to see Will Jordan in the ABs squad as I think he has the acceleration carrying the ball in two hands to trouble even organised test defences but he got injured at the wrong time. Havili is okay, but wouldn't have picked him ahead of any of the other back three players in the AB squad.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      So how does that drop kick Aumua make the ABs when he has played like shit all season.

                      Nah, Aumua's done well in the last few rounds.

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                      @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      So how does that drop kick Aumua make the ABs when he has played like shit all season.

                      Nah, Aumua's done well in the last few rounds.

                      He didn't even get off the bench in the SF.

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                        Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                        Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

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                          Hansen spoke about Aumua quite a bit.

                          Said he's an amazing athlete who has worked very hard on his fitness after showing up last year out of shape. He also said he still has a lot of work to do on his scrummaging and lineout throwing but they see a lot of potential in him.

                          That seems to suggest he's the number 4 hooker and is there in a development role.

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                            @KiwiMurph

                            Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

                            He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

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                            @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            @KiwiMurph

                            Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

                            He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

                            World Cup is in Japan, not China

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                            • WurzelW Wurzel

                              @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @KiwiMurph

                              Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

                              He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

                              World Cup is in Japan, not China

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                              @Wurzel so no woks in Japan?

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                                Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

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                                @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                                He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                                Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

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                                  What I find perhaps most interesting is that in many cases Hansen has gone with the player in form ahead of the player with experience. Different selection strategy to 2015.

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                                    What I find perhaps most interesting is that in many cases Hansen has gone with the player in form ahead of the player with experience. Different selection strategy to 2015.

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                                    @sparky for example?

                                    I'll answer myslef - Naholo,Harris

                                    But none of those are the REAL experienced ones, like Read this time/Carter last time, that everyone is calling out.

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                                      @sparky for example?

                                      I'll answer myslef - Naholo,Harris

                                      But none of those are the REAL experienced ones, like Read this time/Carter last time, that everyone is calling out.

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                                      @Machpants NMS instead of Dagg in 2015?

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                        Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                                        He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                                        Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

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                                        @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                        Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                                        He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                                        Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

                                        Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

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                                          Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

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