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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • sparkyS sparky

    What I find perhaps most interesting is that in many cases Hansen has gone with the player in form ahead of the player with experience. Different selection strategy to 2015.

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    @sparky for example?

    I'll answer myslef - Naholo,Harris

    But none of those are the REAL experienced ones, like Read this time/Carter last time, that everyone is calling out.

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      @sparky for example?

      I'll answer myslef - Naholo,Harris

      But none of those are the REAL experienced ones, like Read this time/Carter last time, that everyone is calling out.

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      @Machpants NMS instead of Dagg in 2015?

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      • MN5M MN5

        @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

        Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

        He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

        Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

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        @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

        Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

        He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

        Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

        Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

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          Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

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          • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

            Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

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            @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

            I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

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            • canefanC canefan

              @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

              Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

              He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

              Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

              Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

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              @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

              Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

              He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

              Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

              Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

              I’m sure. But none of this really answers my query.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

                Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

                I’m sure. But none of this really answers my query.

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                @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

                Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

                I’m sure. But none of this really answers my query.

                I'm in agreement with you mate, he seems to be a coach's favourite but his recent performance doesn't seem to justify it. I'm just trying to guess why

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Nepia I wasn't whining (I think I'm the only one who mentioned him). I was just expressing my disappointment. That's not the same thing.

                  I think he competes mostly with Jordie and Bridge, because he's first and foremost a fullback (at least at the Crusaders). I think Ennor is only there because Crotty isn't.

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                  @Stargazer TBF, that comment wasn’t aimed at you really ....

                  I'm no huge fan of Havilli but I"d rather him than Barrett.

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                    Anyone heard any explanation of Tyrell Lomax's omission. Been impressed by him on a number of occasions this year.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      Anyone heard any explanation of Tyrell Lomax's omission. Been impressed by him on a number of occasions this year.

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                      @sparky

                      My guess is that Ta’avao finished strongly (and could just play both against a minnow) while Lomax got touched up a few times towards the end of year. From memory, Moody bitch slapped him a bit.

                      He’s young and I imagine he has another AB jersey next year, for sure. Could still happen if injuries hit...

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                        @sparky

                        My guess is that Ta’avao finished strongly (and could just play both against a minnow) while Lomax got touched up a few times towards the end of year. From memory, Moody bitch slapped him a bit.

                        He’s young and I imagine he has another AB jersey next year, for sure. Could still happen if injuries hit...

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                        @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @sparky

                        My guess is that Ta’avao finished strongly (and could just play both against a minnow) while Lomax got touched up a few times towards the end of year. From memory, Moody bitch slapped him a bit.

                        He’s young and I imagine he has another AB jersey next year, for sure. Could still happen if injuries hit...

                        Yeah I was pretty keen on Lomax until Moody beat him up in the Q-Final.

                        Don't think he's quite ready to face those Northern Hemisphere scrums.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                          I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

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                          @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                          I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

                          Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

                          Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

                          Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

                          Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

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                          • SammyCS SammyC

                            @gt12 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            @sparky

                            My guess is that Ta’avao finished strongly (and could just play both against a minnow) while Lomax got touched up a few times towards the end of year. From memory, Moody bitch slapped him a bit.

                            He’s young and I imagine he has another AB jersey next year, for sure. Could still happen if injuries hit...

                            Yeah I was pretty keen on Lomax until Moody beat him up in the Q-Final.

                            Don't think he's quite ready to face those Northern Hemisphere scrums.

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                            @SammyC

                            Agree

                            Lomax got his arse kicked badly in the QF

                            He'll in the TH log jam once Franks leaves for England post RWC

                            Angus Ta'avao looks like a great option atm

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                            • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                              @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                              I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

                              Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

                              Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

                              Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

                              Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

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                              @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                              I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

                              Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

                              Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

                              Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

                              Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

                              I guess it's all relative. Rugby heads are not like most people.....

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                                @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                                I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

                                Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

                                Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

                                Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

                                Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

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                                  @Jaguares4real well said Mate

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                                    @Jaguares4real Except he’s shown he doesn’t have a commitment to NZ in the past to go along with his DV. He was out the door before his overseas contract was cancelled. The guy was 21 and had given up on making the ABs, gets in trouble with the law and then he’s all yep I’m a kiwi again, stick you Fiji. 🤣

                                    Oh and he’s poachie as fudge!

                                    @Magpie_in_aus Wearing eye liner is evidence of not being a good person now.

                                    Well, TBF Michael Laws ... 🤔

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                                      @Jaguares4real Except he’s shown he doesn’t have a commitment to NZ in the past to go along with his DV. He was out the door before his overseas contract was cancelled. The guy was 21 and had given up on making the ABs, gets in trouble with the law and then he’s all yep I’m a kiwi again, stick you Fiji. 🤣

                                      Oh and he’s poachie as fudge!

                                      @Magpie_in_aus Wearing eye liner is evidence of not being a good person now.

                                      Well, TBF Michael Laws ... 🤔

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                                      @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

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                                        @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

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                                        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

                                        I think he had signed long before that.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

                                          I think he had signed long before that.

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                                          @Nepia not that we want to go into discussing this and detract form his stellar seasonl, but given how slow the judicial system moves, I expect the incident would have happened a long time prior to the court hearings...and just as likely signed an offshore contract in the interim??

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