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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

    I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

    Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

    Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

    Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

    Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

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    @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

    I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

    Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

    Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

    Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

    Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

    I guess it's all relative. Rugby heads are not like most people.....

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    • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

      @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

      I think that was Graham Henry's line..... 😉

      Haha yeah I was cracking up listening to an audiobook yesterday on leadership and they quoted that in it.

      Have heard it before and always called BS. From what we see as Joe Public seems like it's lip service ala...

      Jimmy Cowan, Dagg and Jane at 2011 RWC, are selecting Zac, didn't Savea Snr have some DV charges, Nonu wearing mascara.

      Also Ali Williams in general....you can't tell me he was a better person ever.

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        @Jaguares4real well said Mate

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          @Jaguares4real Except he’s shown he doesn’t have a commitment to NZ in the past to go along with his DV. He was out the door before his overseas contract was cancelled. The guy was 21 and had given up on making the ABs, gets in trouble with the law and then he’s all yep I’m a kiwi again, stick you Fiji. 🤣

          Oh and he’s poachie as fudge!

          @Magpie_in_aus Wearing eye liner is evidence of not being a good person now.

          Well, TBF Michael Laws ... 🤔

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @Jaguares4real Except he’s shown he doesn’t have a commitment to NZ in the past to go along with his DV. He was out the door before his overseas contract was cancelled. The guy was 21 and had given up on making the ABs, gets in trouble with the law and then he’s all yep I’m a kiwi again, stick you Fiji. 🤣

            Oh and he’s poachie as fudge!

            @Magpie_in_aus Wearing eye liner is evidence of not being a good person now.

            Well, TBF Michael Laws ... 🤔

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            @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

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              @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

              I think he had signed long before that.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Nepia or maybe you could argue because of the DV issue (that I understand was not as straight forward as reported...not that there is ever an excuse for hitting your partner/missus) he wanted to get away from his current environment for a 'fresh start' or sumink?

                I think he had signed long before that.

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                @Nepia not that we want to go into discussing this and detract form his stellar seasonl, but given how slow the judicial system moves, I expect the incident would have happened a long time prior to the court hearings...and just as likely signed an offshore contract in the interim??

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Nepia not that we want to go into discussing this and detract form his stellar seasonl, but given how slow the judicial system moves, I expect the incident would have happened a long time prior to the court hearings...and just as likely signed an offshore contract in the interim??

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                  @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Nepia not that we want to go into discussing this and detract form his stellar seasonl, but given how slow the judicial system moves, I expect the incident would have happened a long time prior to the court hearings...and just as likely signed an offshore contract in the interim??

                  He signed in May 2018 so I think it’s fair to say he wasn’t committed to NZ rugby regardless of whether he was due in court facing DV charges - which happened in July 2018 IIRC.

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                    I still believe the NZ sevens team missed a trick by not selecting Reece once he was eligible. His Waikato contract wouldn't have been huge, hence the temptation to look overseas.

                    Remember than when he signed for Connacht Keane was the coach.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @broughie only one way to find out....certainly plays an abrasive game.

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                      @Bones Why did I think you were talking about D Pap? Yes Jacobson was pretty impressive at six when he played so yes worth the try.

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                        Papalii is a fair bit bigger than Gibson - has about 10kgs on him and is taller.

                        Now that we are talking about the size of loose forwards I'm sure there's an Ardie comment coming along any moment now.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Nepia not that we want to go into discussing this and detract form his stellar seasonl, but given how slow the judicial system moves, I expect the incident would have happened a long time prior to the court hearings...and just as likely signed an offshore contract in the interim??

                          He signed in May 2018 so I think it’s fair to say he wasn’t committed to NZ rugby regardless of whether he was due in court facing DV charges - which happened in July 2018 IIRC.

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                          @Nepia ah ok, didnt realise it had all moved that quickly given how slow other much higher profile cases have moved.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            I still believe the NZ sevens team missed a trick by not selecting Reece once he was eligible. His Waikato contract wouldn't have been huge, hence the temptation to look overseas.

                            Remember than when he signed for Connacht Keane was the coach.

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                            @Bovidae I think he only came eligible for NZ7s around March/April this year, by which stage he was entrenched at the Crusaders

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                            • WurzelW Wurzel

                              @Bovidae I think he only came eligible for NZ7s around March/April this year, by which stage he was entrenched at the Crusaders

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                              @Wurzel IIRC Reece's 3 years stand-down were up from Nov 2018.

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                              • Magpie_in_ausM Magpie_in_aus

                                Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

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                                @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                                He's a better person now than when he wasn't an All Black...

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                                  He's a better person now than when he wasn't an All Black...

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                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Magpie_in_aus said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  Better players make better all blacks.....Sevu touches up his misses last year and is rewarded as an AB this year....rightio Hansen

                                  He's a better person now than when he wasn't an All Black...

                                  rest of the country catching up with the Cantabs

                                  (fuck, there is a sentence i never thought i would type)

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                    Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                                    He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                                    Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

                                    Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

                                    I’m sure. But none of this really answers my query.

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                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    Steve Hansen rates SBW as the best player athletically he's worked with. He will give him every opportunity to show form ahead of the RWC.

                                    Problem is that time is running out for Sonny. I wished he had done the same as Liam Squire and pulled out. Can't see him in the squad if Ryan Crotty is fit.

                                    He's going if he's not broken. I think we all know that.

                                    Always intrigues me how he is supposedly so much more "athletic" than everyone else too.

                                    Stories abound regarding his professionalism and work ethic. My mate saw him run out in a club game last weekend, said he is farken huge up close

                                    I’m sure. But none of this really answers my query.

                                    Because when fit he can open up defences - he's a genuine threat.

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                                      So can all the other players he is competing against for the very few midfield spots available, most of who are fully fit (Ryan Crotty excepted).

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Papalii is a fair bit bigger than Gibson - has about 10kgs on him and is taller.

                                        Now that we are talking about the size of loose forwards I'm sure there's an Ardie comment coming along any moment now.

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                                        @KiwiMurph Wow. Got that horribly wrong. On the field you would thing the other way around but thanks for the correction.

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                                        • HigginsH Higgins

                                          So can all the other players he is competing against for the very few midfield spots available, most of who are fully fit (Ryan Crotty excepted).

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                                          @Higgins said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          So can all the other players he is competing against for the very few midfield spots available, most of who are fully fit (Ryan Crotty excepted).

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