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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Darren said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    I think they want SBW as a counter to the fast rushing defense.
    He hits the line and they have to cover his offload, I guess it helps create indecision and pulls in defenders.

    I think they want SBW because he rocks up to the Adidas launch, seems to pull off the new collarless AB t-shirt, smiles at the Adidas execs and during Ramadan is a really cheap Food Bill.

    😎

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    @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Darren said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    I think they want SBW as a counter to the fast rushing defense.
    He hits the line and they have to cover his offload, I guess it helps create indecision and pulls in defenders.

    I think they want SBW because he rocks up to the Adidas launch, seems to pull off the new collarless AB t-shirt, smiles at the Adidas execs and during Ramadan is a really cheap Food Bill.

    😎

    He looks farking stupid with that beard though.

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    • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

      I would happily take Jordan or Havili over Reece but obviously the selectors see something in him that they can't replicate.

      Amazing to think our wings in 2015 final were The Bus and NMS, both of whom are complete lame ducks now. In fact I'd probably take an aging Kahui and Jane over them in 2019.

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      @mofitzy_ Bloody hell there's a name. Kahui. Always annoyed me that he left so early and never came back.

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        @mofitzy_ Bloody hell there's a name. Kahui. Always annoyed me that he left so early and never came back.

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        @Yeetyaah Yeah, I rated Kahui, but his shoulder couldn't handle the rugby here anymore. He didn't leave for the coin (not in the first place anyway), he left to be able to continue playing.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Yeetyaah Yeah, I rated Kahui, but his shoulder couldn't handle the rugby here anymore. He didn't leave for the coin (not in the first place anyway), he left to be able to continue playing.

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          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          @Yeetyaah Yeah, I rated Kahui, but his shoulder couldn't handle the rugby here anymore. He didn't leave for the coin (not in the first place anyway), he left to be able to continue playing.

          He gave us Bill in 2011. That'll do

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            @Yeetyaah Yeah, I rated Kahui, but his shoulder couldn't handle the rugby here anymore. He didn't leave for the coin (not in the first place anyway), he left to be able to continue playing.

            He gave us Bill in 2011. That'll do

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            @canefan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            @Yeetyaah Yeah, I rated Kahui, but his shoulder couldn't handle the rugby here anymore. He didn't leave for the coin (not in the first place anyway), he left to be able to continue playing.

            He gave us Bill in 2011. That'll do

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              Don't think it has been posted. This is the entire team naming + interviews.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

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                @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

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                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2019/07/rugby-world-cup-2019-all-blacks-coach-steven-hansen-defends-sevu-reece-selection.html

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                    New Zealanders in "being cool with good player making the All Blacks" shocker

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                      SQUAD NEWS: Wallabies announce squad for South Africa tour

                      SQUAD
                      Forwards
                      Allan Alaalatoa (32 Tests, Brumbies, 25)
                      Rory Arnold (19 Tests , Brumbies, 29)
                      Jack Dempsey (10 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 25)
                      Folau Fainga’a (7 Tests, Brumbies, 24)
                      Michael Hooper (c) (91 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 27)
                      Luke Jones (3 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 28)
                      Sekope Kepu (103 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 33)
                      Tolu Latu (12 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 26)
                      Isi Naisarani (uncapped, Melbourne Rebels, 24)
                      Tom Robertson (24 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 24)
                      Izack Rodda (17 Tests, Queensland Reds, 22)
                      Rob Simmons (94 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 30)
                      Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (11, Queensland Reds, 22)
                      Scott Sio (55 Tests, Brumbies, 27)
                      James Slipper (86 Tests, Brumbies, 30)
                      Taniela Tupou (11 Tests, Queensland Reds, 23)
                      Jordan Uelese (2 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 22)
                      Rob Valetini (uncapped, Brumbies, 20)
                      Liam Wright (uncapped, Queensland Reds, 21)

                      Backs
                      Adam Ashley-Cooper (117 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 35)
                      Tom Banks (3 Tests, Brumbies, 25)
                      Kurtley Beale (83 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 30)
                      Bernard Foley (68 Tests, NSW Waratahs, 29)
                      Will Genia (100 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 31)
                      Dane Haylett-Petty (31 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 30)
                      Reece Hodge (33 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 24)
                      Samu Kerevi (25 Tests, Queensland Reds, 25)
                      Marika Koroibete (20 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 26)
                      Tevita Kuridrani (58 Tests, Brumbies, 28)
                      Christian Lealiifano (19 Tests, Brumbies, 31)
                      Jack Maddocks (7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 22)
                      Joe Powell (4 Tests, Brumbies, 25)
                      Matt Toomua (42 Tests, Melbourne Rebels, 29)
                      Nic White (22 Tests, Exeter Chiefs, 29)

                      Brumbies playmaker Christian Lealiifano is back in a Wallabies squad for the first time in three years but the national selection panel has omitted a number of Test regulars from the group to head to South Africa.
                      
                      A host of Test regulars have been left out of the squad, including Waratahs Nick Phipps and Ned Hanigan, in the first squad picked by the newly-established selection panel.
                      
                      Nic White has been included for the first time since 2015, alongside Will Genia and Joe Powell. 
                      
                      Rebels no. 8 Isi Naisarani is one of three uncapped players in the squad, along with Reds rookie Liam Wright and Rob Valetini the other contenders to make Test debuts.
                      
                      David Pocock, Adam Coleman  and Pete Samu are missing from the squad with injury.
                      
                      James O'Connor was invited to train with the Wallabies this week, six years after his last Test for Australia, but the utility will not travel to Africa with the group.
                      
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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                        You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                        At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                        If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

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                        @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                        You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                        At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                        If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                        Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                        Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

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                        • SammyCS SammyC

                          @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                          You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                          At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                          If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                          Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                          Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

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                          @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                          You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                          At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                          If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                          Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                          Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

                          pretty reliable on the injury front though, so there's that

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                            https://wallabies.rugby/news/2019/07/03/wallabies-2019-rugby-championship-squad

                            Wallabies named (34 man squad).

                            Big names missing = Quade, Hanigan, Phipps, Coleman (injured), Pocock (injured) JOC (contract issue).

                            AAC selection makes SBW look like a form selection.

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                              That's a lot of grit grunt and aggression missing with Ned gone...

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                                Re: Jacobson, that wasn't a well-researched article. The original Stuff article and the article in the Waikato Times says he was educated at St Peters Cambridge when he wasn't. Cambridge High School.

                                The best part was being pranked by DMac.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  https://wallabies.rugby/news/2019/07/03/wallabies-2019-rugby-championship-squad

                                  Wallabies named (34 man squad).

                                  Big names missing = Quade, Hanigan, Phipps, Coleman (injured), Pocock (injured) JOC (contract issue).

                                  AAC selection makes SBW look like a form selection.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  https://wallabies.rugby/news/2019/07/03/wallabies-2019-rugby-championship-squad

                                  Wallabies named (34 man squad).

                                  Big names missing = Quade, Hanigan, Phipps, Coleman (injured), Pocock (injured) JOC (contract issue).

                                  AAC selection makes SBW look like a form selection.

                                  Only having Wales in their pool will see them contest a quarter-final.

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                                  • SammyCS SammyC

                                    @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                                    You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                                    At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                                    If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                                    Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                                    Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

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                                    @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                                    You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                                    At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                                    If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                                    Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                                    Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

                                    Sheesh, you guys will go to the mattresses for anyone who even wanders past wearing a rednblack skivvy won’t you?

                                    Akira may be lazy off the field - but he still racks up numbers comparable to the rest of the 8s in the comp. I guess if he ever gets as fit as The Douglas-Taufua combo he’ll be unbeatable.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                                      You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                                      At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                                      If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                                      Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                                      Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

                                      Sheesh, you guys will go to the mattresses for anyone who even wanders past wearing a rednblack skivvy won’t you?

                                      Akira may be lazy off the field - but he still racks up numbers comparable to the rest of the 8s in the comp. I guess if he ever gets as fit as The Douglas-Taufua combo he’ll be unbeatable.

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                                      @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @rotated said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      I don't really see how any of those are similar to a Fijian signing a contract which would see him leave NZ rugby at 21 but only staying as his contract was cancelled due to DV charges. Zinny changed his mind, Reece would be playing in Ireland if not for roughing up his missus.

                                      You don't see how that is not as "bad" (you seem to think it is, I don't) as Thorn signing a contract to turn his back on both NZ and the game of rugby in the midst of his All Black career?

                                      At least Reece spent some time developing in the NZ system and played schoolboy rugby in NZ. Thorn barely spent a day in the country as an adult outside of playing pro rugby.

                                      If Thorn was charged for DV which forced him to stay in NZ then yes it would be similar. But it’s not. Thorn was committed to NZ rugby when he played rugby.

                                      Well at least you’ve got something else to complain about after Hansen’s comments about Akira.

                                      Turns out he is kinda lazy despite your insistence he’s not.

                                      Sheesh, you guys will go to the mattresses for anyone who even wanders past wearing a rednblack skivvy won’t you?

                                      Akira may be lazy off the field - but he still racks up numbers comparable to the rest of the 8s in the comp. I guess if he ever gets as fit as The Douglas-Taufua combo he’ll be unbeatable.

                                      Too right! he's one of us now 🙂 even referred to himself as a Christchurch boy in that sky sport interview stargazer posted.

                                      Akira's defensive stats when adjusted for minutes played are a fair bit behind both Douglas and Taufua. I think a little extra fitness may help with that.

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                                        Ahhh, those Mad Mondays!

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/113999961/all-blacks-laid-low-by-illness-beauden-barrett-ardie-savea-miss-training-camp

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                                          haha that's exactly it. Even pro rugby players call in sick after a bender #justoneoftheboys

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