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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Jaguares4real so it's ok for rugby players to bash thier wives, but not Politicians?

    So ok for female rugby players to bash thier husbands...what if husband is a rugby player too, or a politician, is he allowed to fight back?

    I am sure you dont mean it like that, but thats how it is coming across.

    No one will forget the incident, the fact Savea and Siviatus similar indiscretions are bought up proves that.

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    @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Jaguares4real so it's ok for rugby players to bash thier wives, but not Politicians?

    So ok for female rugby players to bash thier husbands...what if husband is a rugby player too?

    I am sure you dont mean it like that, but thats how it is coming across.

    No one will forget the incident, the fact Savea and Siviatus similar indiscretions are bought up proves that.

    I don't care is different from saying it's okay

    A National Politician has a much greater potential impact on your life than a bloody rugby player

    Rugby is a sport a form of entertainment Fans don't go Player X is a wonderful role model or Player Y is a dickhead off the field

    ALL about producing on the field

    The incidents Savea & Sivivatu were involved were wrong but an insignificant to the point of irrelevant aspects of their rugby career

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      @Smudge said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @Kirwan said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      I'm not super comfortable with Reece being selected either, but I'm also not comfortable with ending someone's career over one incident that didn't result in a conviction.

      We have courts for that, social media mobs are not how we want to apply justice.

      If he does it again all bets are off though. He should have his contract ripped up.

      That's a fair summary. I'm just a bit tired of all the sympathy for Reece in this situation.

      I don;t think many folks feel sorry for Reece

      He;s paid a high price for his actions already

      We have a Criminal Justice System and that;s good enough for me

      Not interested in knee jerkers & pearl clutchers

      Sivivatu and Savea were great All Black Wingers

      TBH I don't give a fuck about the fact they both bashed their wives

      Savea is still with his lady as is Reece Both were dealt with in courts

      That's good enough for me

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      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      Savea is still with his lady

      His wife is not the same one.

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        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        @Jaguares4real so it's ok for rugby players to bash thier wives, but not Politicians?

        So ok for female rugby players to bash thier husbands...what if husband is a rugby player too?

        I am sure you dont mean it like that, but thats how it is coming across.

        No one will forget the incident, the fact Savea and Siviatus similar indiscretions are bought up proves that.

        I don't care is different from saying it's okay

        A National Politician has a much greater potential impact on your life than a bloody rugby player

        Rugby is a sport a form of entertainment Fans don't go Player X is a wonderful role model or Player Y is a dickhead off the field

        ALL about producing on the field

        The incidents Savea & Sivivatu were involved were wrong but an insignificant to the point of irrelevant aspects of their rugby career

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        @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        Rugby is a sport a form of entertainment Fans don't go Player X is a wonderful role model or Player Y is a dickhead off the field

        No, they look to all of them as role models, whether they like it or not.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          Rugby is a sport a form of entertainment Fans don't go Player X is a wonderful role model or Player Y is a dickhead off the field

          No, they look to all of them as role models, whether they like it or not.

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          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

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          They can look up to them as role models for all I care

          Kids ideally should be looking at family members friends etc for role models

          At that age Kids will have little idea what their sports hero gets up to off the field

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            @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

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            They can look up to them as role models for all I care

            Kids ideally should be looking at family members friends etc for role models

            At that age Kids will have little idea what their sports hero gets up to off the field

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            @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            Kids ideally should be looking at family members friends etc for role models

            agreed, but that is only part of it, and you are being naive if you believe kids dont look to thier sports heroes as role models.

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            • MokeyM Mokey

              No one should be bashing their wife. Occupation is utterly irrelevant. Also, implying that all rugby players are thick thugs is hugely disrespectful. FFS.

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              @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              No one should be bashing their wife. Occupation is utterly irrelevant. Also, implying that all rugby players are thick thugs is hugely disrespectful. FFS.

              First part is most relevent. The fact this has to be spelled out actually makes me sad.

              the 2nd part? Really pisses me off. I fucking hate that generalisation about rugby players. Most especially because I, and pretty much all my friends, played rugby all our lives (until we got too old).

              At least we know jags4life never played, helps when judging his "insight"

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                No one should be bashing their wife. Occupation is utterly irrelevant. Also, implying that all rugby players are thick thugs is hugely disrespectful. FFS.

                First part is most relevent. The fact this has to be spelled out actually makes me sad.

                the 2nd part? Really pisses me off. I fucking hate that generalisation about rugby players. Most especially because I, and pretty much all my friends, played rugby all our lives (until we got too old).

                At least we know jags4life never played, helps when judging his "insight"

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                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                No one should be bashing their wife. Occupation is utterly irrelevant. Also, implying that all rugby players are thick thugs is hugely disrespectful. FFS.

                First part is most relevent. The fact this has to be spelled out actually makes me sad.

                the 2nd part? Really pisses me off. I fucking hate that generalisation about rugby players. Most especially because I, and pretty much all my friends, played rugby all our lives (until we got too old).

                At least we know jags4life never played, helps when judging his "insight"

                🤣 🤣

                This is a rugby forum few are interested in off field dramas No one is pro wife bashing

                Where have folks got this idea I;m generalising or labelling rugby players as dumb meatheads......

                My point was fans rarely give a monkeys about players off the field
                Deliver on he field and all is forgiven

                Thanks for deducing I never played rugby

                I forgot about playing as a teenager it was a while ago but still in the 21st century 👀 👀

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                  @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Mokey said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  No one should be bashing their wife. Occupation is utterly irrelevant. Also, implying that all rugby players are thick thugs is hugely disrespectful. FFS.

                  First part is most relevent. The fact this has to be spelled out actually makes me sad.

                  the 2nd part? Really pisses me off. I fucking hate that generalisation about rugby players. Most especially because I, and pretty much all my friends, played rugby all our lives (until we got too old).

                  At least we know jags4life never played, helps when judging his "insight"

                  🤣 🤣

                  This is a rugby forum few are interested in off field dramas No one is pro wife bashing

                  Where have folks got this idea I;m generalising or labelling rugby players as dumb meatheads......

                  My point was fans rarely give a monkeys about players off the field
                  Deliver on he field and all is forgiven

                  Thanks for deducing I never played rugby

                  I forgot about playing as a teenager it was a while ago but still in the 21st century 👀 👀

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                  @Jaguares4real maybe a bit more time on the fern will show we are typically interested in a bunch of stuff around and in addition to sport. If you've have been lurking for a while you've missed a bit.

                  You didn't call them meatheads but an earlier post clearly stated you don't expect as much of them as politicians or presumably other 'professionals'?. Why is that?

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                    to be honest, I'm surprised you're not still a teenager.

                    I'm willing to cut you a bit of slack because i assume English is your 2nd language, so there will be some shit lost in translation. But the general gist of your posts is you are pretty cool with someone beating on their missus, as long as they are good at footy. That's pretty fucked up.

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                      @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @Smudge

                      I'd think being found guilty of wife ashing in a court would be TERRIBLE

                      Missing out on a pro contract paying better coin wold be TERRIBLE

                      Having the incidence reported ad nausiem would be TERRIBLE

                      I'm no fan of reactionaries and puritans

                      He committed a crime and was dealt with at the time

                      As far as I'm concerned he is forgiven and life goes on

                      All these big spaces and capitals make me think I'm reading stories from my sons from school.

                      Oh and if you smack a woman round most people tend to think you're a bit of a fluffybunny too, he needs to wear that.

                      Your 1st sentence: :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:

                      Your 2nd sentence is your POV You're entitled to it

                      I'd thought folks would be a little more open minded and less judgemental The whole saint complex is a little tedious

                      I'll let the pearl clutchers & professionally offended bitch and moan

                      Reece is a rugby player & a very good one atm anything else is meaningless frankly

                      But hey MN5 you can go and preach to the TSF masses about your flawless character :smiling_face_with_halo: 🙏 🙏

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                      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @MN5 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      @Smudge

                      I'd think being found guilty of wife ashing in a court would be TERRIBLE

                      Missing out on a pro contract paying better coin wold be TERRIBLE

                      Having the incidence reported ad nausiem would be TERRIBLE

                      I'm no fan of reactionaries and puritans

                      He committed a crime and was dealt with at the time

                      As far as I'm concerned he is forgiven and life goes on

                      All these big spaces and capitals make me think I'm reading stories from my sons from school.

                      Oh and if you smack a woman round most people tend to think you're a bit of a fluffybunny too, he needs to wear that.

                      Your 1st sentence: :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:

                      Your 2nd sentence is your POV You're entitled to it

                      I'd thought folks would be a little more open minded and less judgemental The whole saint complex is a little tedious

                      I'll let the pearl clutchers & professionally offended bitch and moan

                      Reece is a rugby player & a very good one atm anything else is meaningless frankly

                      But hey MN5 you can go and preach to the TSF masses about your flawless character :smiling_face_with_halo: 🙏 🙏

                      Well I’m humble enough not to shout it from the rooftops but I tend not to hit women

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                        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Jaguares4real so it's ok for rugby players to bash thier wives, but not Politicians?

                        So ok for female rugby players to bash thier husbands...what if husband is a rugby player too?

                        I am sure you dont mean it like that, but thats how it is coming across.

                        No one will forget the incident, the fact Savea and Siviatus similar indiscretions are bought up proves that.

                        I don't care is different from saying it's okay

                        A National Politician has a much greater potential impact on your life than a bloody rugby player

                        Rugby is a sport a form of entertainment Fans don't go Player X is a wonderful role model or Player Y is a dickhead off the field

                        ALL about producing on the field

                        The incidents Savea & Sivivatu were involved were wrong but an insignificant to the point of irrelevant aspects of their rugby career

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                        @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        I don't care is different from saying it's okay

                        It's actually not. If you don't care what other signal are you sending than "go for it"?

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          to be honest, I'm surprised you're not still a teenager.

                          I'm willing to cut you a bit of slack because i assume English is your 2nd language, so there will be some shit lost in translation. But the general gist of your posts is you are pretty cool with someone beating on their missus, as long as they are good at footy. That's pretty fucked up.

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                          @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          to be honest, I'm surprised you're not still a teenager.

                          I'm willing to cut you a bit of slack because i assume English is your 2nd language, so there will be some shit lost in translation. But the general gist of your posts is you are pretty cool with someone beating on their missus, as long as they are good at footy. That's pretty fucked up.

                          Must be that fiery Latin temperament

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                            Man, I can't wait for the rugby to start. Getting sick of discussions like this.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Man, I can't wait for the rugby to start. Getting sick of discussions like this.

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                              @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              Man, I can't wait for the rugby to start. Getting sick of discussions like this.

                              You'll be hating the lull between the SR final and the first test match

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                Man, I can't wait for the rugby to start. Getting sick of discussions like this.

                                You'll be hating the lull between the SR final and the first test match

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                                @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

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                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

                                  Bless! All I heard reading that is "No Rugby"

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

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                                    Aren't the Maori ABs playing the weekend in between?

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

                                      Bless! All I heard reading that is "No Rugby"

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                                      @Hooroo worse if the Black Caps have to finish thier UK Holiday early too!

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

                                        Bless! All I heard reading that is "No Rugby"

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                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo Yes, indeed. Apart from a few Black Ferns' and school boys' games there won't be much rugby to watch or discuss. But, finally, some time for other sports.

                                        Bless! All I heard reading that is "No Rugby"

                                        lets be honest, this is the most traffic a thread has got before a game anyway. this place has been a dead zone so far this year. And most of what is posted is inane shit

                                        old jagsy might be a strange fruit, but at least he's kicked the hornets nest a bit.

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                                        • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                          @Jaguares4real maybe a bit more time on the fern will show we are typically interested in a bunch of stuff around and in addition to sport. If you've have been lurking for a while you've missed a bit.

                                          You didn't call them meatheads but an earlier post clearly stated you don't expect as much of them as politicians or presumably other 'professionals'?. Why is that?

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                                          @Paekakboyz said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          ads but an earlier post clearly stated you don't expect as

                                          This is a kiwi forum predominantly focused on rugby with other topics mentioned but that's a small point compared to your 2nd point

                                          Rugby players have a set of skills who entertain

                                          Politicians are elected officials big difference IMO who have a say in your life

                                          Doctors Nurses also have a more profound involvement in our lives so are held to a higher standard

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