Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

2019 Rugby Championship

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
741 Posts 71 Posters 55.8k Views 3 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • HoorooH Offline
    HoorooH Offline
    Hooroo
    wrote on last edited by
    #62

    Who is this Lomax chap? Which team does he play for?

    StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.

      SammyCS Offline
      SammyCS Offline
      SammyC
      wrote on last edited by
      #63

      @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

      @antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.

      And TTT doesn't even start ahead of Weber for the Chiefs. Who don't have a bad pack anyway.

      antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
      3
      • SammyCS SammyC

        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        @antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.

        And TTT doesn't even start ahead of Weber for the Chiefs. Who don't have a bad pack anyway.

        antipodeanA Online
        antipodeanA Online
        antipodean
        wrote on last edited by
        #64

        @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        @antipodean That excuse is over-used. Aaron Smith and TJP aren't playing behind that pack either.

        And TTT doesn't even start ahead of Weber for the Chiefs. Who don't have a bad pack anyway.

        Perhaps if the All Blacks coaches/ selectors were running the Chiefs, they wouldn't have been a bag of shit the first few weeks of the season.

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • HoorooH Hooroo

          Who is this Lomax chap? Which team does he play for?

          StargazerS Offline
          StargazerS Offline
          Stargazer
          wrote on last edited by
          #65

          @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

          HoorooH 1 Reply Last reply
          1
          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

            HoorooH Offline
            HoorooH Offline
            Hooroo
            wrote on last edited by
            #66

            @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

            @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

            Never heard of him.

            Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

            KiwiMurphK 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

              Never heard of him.

              Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

              KiwiMurphK Offline
              KiwiMurphK Offline
              KiwiMurph
              wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
              #67

              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

              Never heard of him.

              Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

              He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

              HoorooH 1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                Never heard of him.

                Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                HoorooH Offline
                HoorooH Offline
                Hooroo
                wrote on last edited by Hooroo
                #68

                @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                Never heard of him.

                Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                So loosies of Read, Ioane, Cane, Savea to choose from! Ha ha ha ha! That is gold! I will not be surprised if it is Read, Ioane and Savea come WC final time.

                antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • HoorooH Hooroo

                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                  Never heard of him.

                  Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                  He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                  That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                  So loosies of Read, Ioane, Cane, Savea to choose from! Ha ha ha ha! That is gold! I will not be surprised if it is Read, Ioane and Savea come WC final time.

                  antipodeanA Online
                  antipodeanA Online
                  antipodean
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #69

                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                  Never heard of him.

                  Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                  He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                  That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                  Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                  HoorooH 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                    Never heard of him.

                    Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                    He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                    That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                    Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                    HoorooH Offline
                    HoorooH Offline
                    Hooroo
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #70

                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                    Never heard of him.

                    Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                    He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                    That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                    Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                    How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                    antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • M Offline
                      M Offline
                      Machpants
                      wrote on last edited by Machpants
                      #71

                      31 iirc edit yup, last time

                      17 forwards and 14 backs with the following positional breakdown:
                      three hookers,
                      five props,
                      three locks,
                      six loose forwards,
                      three halfbacks,
                      three first five-eighths,
                      four midfielders,
                      four outside backs

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                        Never heard of him.

                        Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                        He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                        That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                        Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                        How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                        antipodeanA Online
                        antipodeanA Online
                        antipodean
                        wrote on last edited by antipodean
                        #72

                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                        Never heard of him.

                        Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                        He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                        That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                        Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                        How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                        31, so

                        Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                        Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                        Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                        StargazerS mariner4lifeM sparkyS 3 Replies Last reply
                        2
                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                          Never heard of him.

                          Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                          He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                          That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                          Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                          How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                          31, so

                          Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                          Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                          Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                          StargazerS Offline
                          StargazerS Offline
                          Stargazer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #73

                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                          Never heard of him.

                          Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                          He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                          That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                          Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                          How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                          31, so

                          Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                          Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                          Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                          Five midfielders and three outside backs? I doubt it. My guess is that either Laumape or SBW won't be in the squad and that only one of Barrett, Naholo and Bridge won't make it. Too early to tell who that will be.

                          Loosies still wide open, too. Again, if I had to guess, they'll take Cane, Ardie and Todd, if only because Cane has been falling apart quite often the last few years, and they may want to use Ardie as back-up for Read.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • M Offline
                            M Offline
                            Machpants
                            wrote on last edited by Machpants
                            #74

                            Swap Jordie for Naholo, and I agree. Not my choice but what I think will happen. With @antipodean

                            The outside backs are more than enough with DMac and Beaudy in the squad. And Jordie too

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            3
                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                              Never heard of him.

                              Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                              He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                              That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                              Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                              How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                              31, so

                              Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                              Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                              Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                              mariner4lifeM Offline
                              mariner4lifeM Offline
                              mariner4life
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #75

                              @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                              Never heard of him.

                              Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                              He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                              That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                              Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                              How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                              31, so

                              Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                              Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                              Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                              not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                              antipodeanA 1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                Never heard of him.

                                Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                31, so

                                Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                antipodeanA Online
                                antipodeanA Online
                                antipodean
                                wrote on last edited by antipodean
                                #76

                                @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                Never heard of him.

                                Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                31, so

                                Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                mariner4lifeM 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                  Never heard of him.

                                  Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                  He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                  That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                  Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                  How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                  31, so

                                  Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                  Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                  Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                  not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                  I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                  mariner4lifeM Offline
                                  mariner4lifeM Offline
                                  mariner4life
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #77

                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                  Never heard of him.

                                  Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                  He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                  That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                  Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                  How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                  31, so

                                  Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                  Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                  Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                  not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                  I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                  i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.

                                  But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                  And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                  HoorooH gt12G MajorPomM 3 Replies Last reply
                                  1
                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                    Never heard of him.

                                    Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                    He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                    That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                    Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                    How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                    31, so

                                    Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                    Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                    Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                    not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                    I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                    i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.

                                    But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                    And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                    HoorooH Offline
                                    HoorooH Offline
                                    Hooroo
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #78

                                    @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                    Never heard of him.

                                    Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                    He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                    That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                    Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                    How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                    31, so

                                    Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                    Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                    Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                    not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                    I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                    But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                    And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                    and the third travesty is that B Barrett will likely start ahead of Mouanga

                                    mariner4lifeM Canes4lifeC 2 Replies Last reply
                                    1
                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                      Never heard of him.

                                      Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                      He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                      That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                      Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                      How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                      31, so

                                      Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                      Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                      Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                      not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                      I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                      But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                      And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                      and the third travesty is that B Barrett will likely start ahead of Mouanga

                                      mariner4lifeM Offline
                                      mariner4lifeM Offline
                                      mariner4life
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #79

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                      @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                      Never heard of him.

                                      Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                      He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                      That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                      Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                      How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                      31, so

                                      Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                      Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                      Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                      not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                      I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                      But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                      And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                      and the third travesty is that B Barrett will likely start ahead of Mouanga

                                      and may god help us all

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      2
                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                        Never heard of him.

                                        Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                        He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                        That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                        Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                        How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                        31, so

                                        Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                        Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                        Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                        not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                        I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                        i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.

                                        But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                        And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                        gt12G Offline
                                        gt12G Offline
                                        gt12
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #80

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Hooroo In case this is a serious question: Highlanders, Ta$man and Maori ABs TH prop.

                                        Never heard of him.

                                        Just clicked there is no Nonu so fairly safe to say he won't be there.

                                        He's already a test capped AB - played for the ABs v Japan last year

                                        That doesn't help me remember. I'm not even a hundred that I managed to watch that test.

                                        Effectively a modern midweek fixture anyway. And to think people used to get upset about caps being handed out.

                                        How big is the WC squad you are allowed to take? Be a fun game to see who we think out of that lot, don't get a plane ticket

                                        31, so

                                        Forwards: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman, Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta'avao, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Samuel Whitelock, Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Matt Todd and Luke Whitelock.

                                        Backs: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith, Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Waisake Naholo and Ben Smith.

                                        Maybe swap Ta'avao for Laulala if he can't get back his form by the RC.

                                        not bad. Pretty much the only change i would personally make is SBW out, Bridge in.

                                        I'd love to see Bridge get game time on the right wing to make it his. SBW simply isn't getting enough time on the field at the Blues, but I think they'll still take him. Naholo's injury has come at a bad time, so his inclusion in the RC would be opportunity because he was an All Black. If he didn't play the house down I feel they'd leave him at home. But we still don't have a right winger make the position his own. Easily the weakest position in NZ at the moment.

                                        i agree with everything you just said. Except maybe i don't really rate Naholo all that highly so couldn't give a stuff if he goes or not. However, if they are fit, Smith, Naholo and Ioane are nailed on selections.

                                        But it's inevitable that we are going to leave one of our best midfielders at home to take the two sicknotes.

                                        And it's probably also inevitable that the wildly underwhelming J Barrett is going to get an undeserved ticket.

                                        Are they? I'll be interested to see whether they use Dmac at FB and put B Smith to the wing - they played around with that combination last year and it wouldn't surprise me to see it used in the RC and WC.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        2
                                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
                                          taniwharugbyT Offline
                                          taniwharugby
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #81

                                          I think barring injury, SBW is on the plane...I think they see him as a key to unlock those NH defences...but getting him on the park for a sustained period with the same mid field partner is another issue.

                                          nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search