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Has Hansen gone stale?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    He thinks it's irrelevant that Foster didn't win anything with the Chiefs. He says they didn't win anything at the time, because the Crusaders were winning it. 🤔

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      Media trying to get Hansen to endorse Foster as his successor, but he doesn't do it. He says he rates Foster highly, but as to who should be the next coach, he says he'll keep his opinion to himself. There are processes for that.

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      @stargazer said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

      Media trying to get Hansen to endorse Foster as his successor, but he doesn't do it. He says he rates Foster highly, but as to who should be the next coach, he says he'll keep his opinion to himself. There are processes for that.

      To be fair they asked Smith on the way out and he backed Foster. Pretty sure Henry openly backed Hansen too.

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      • Billy TellB Offline
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        Well I didn’t that coming. Cheika to take over from Hansen. NZRU innovative as always.

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        • Billy TellB Offline
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          Best part of PC

          Hansen: We are the only team that can win 3 consecutive world cups. Brazil haven't managed it. And they don't play rugby.

          Smart-ass journalist: Brazil do play rugby.

          Hansen: Not their soccer team.

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            It feels right to me , as great as he has been , and he has been awesome , sometimes your gut feeling says that’s almost it ,it’s time for a change up .

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              It feels right to me , as great as he has been , and he has been awesome , sometimes your gut feeling says that’s almost it ,it’s time for a change up .

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              @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

              It feels right to me , as great as he has been , and he has been awesome , sometimes your gut feeling says that’s almost it ,it’s time for a change up .

              If he wins in Japan, he will be the GOAT. Either way he has had a great run, time for a change

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              • BonesB Bones

                Foster to take over immediately.

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                @bones said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                Foster to take over immediately.

                Hahaha, that's nasty for those of us reading through the thread to find this information.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  Foster to take over immediately.

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                  @bones said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                  Foster to take over immediately.

                  You have a sick sense of humour @Bones.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @bones said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    Foster to take over immediately.

                    Hahaha, that's nasty for those of us reading through the thread to find this information.

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                    @nepia said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    @bones said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    Foster to take over immediately.

                    Hahaha, that's nasty for those of us reading through the thread to find this information.

                    Got me as well.

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                    • sparkyS Offline
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                      After all Steve Hansen has done for New Zealand Rugby and the All Blacks, I wish him a long and happy retirement. Hopefully the players will work hard to bring an old friend called Bill to his retirement party.

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                        TAB's hypothetical market on Hansens replacement...if they were running a real book I dont expect a few of those names would actually appear, or should be much longer odds...

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          TAB's hypothetical market on Hansens replacement...if they were running a real book I dont expect a few of those names would actually appear, or should be much longer odds...

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                          @taniwharugby Eddie seems remarkably short priced.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            TAB's hypothetical market on Hansens replacement...if they were running a real book I dont expect a few of those names would actually appear, or should be much longer odds...

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                            @taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                            TAB's hypothetical market on Hansens replacement...if they were running a real book I dont expect a few of those names would actually appear, or should be much longer odds...

                            I hope they do open a book. Made a solid $250 off the TAB with Henry's reappointment at 5-1 the day before the decision.

                            Foster too short when you consider the ABs are longer than $2.00 at most books to win RWC.

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                              How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                              I am concerned with the thought of Foster , without much recognized support behind him ,

                              Put a good team around him , no where near as worried .

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                              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                I am concerned with the thought of Foster , without much recognized support behind him ,

                                Put a good team around him , no where near as worried .

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                                @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                Foster and Gatland are former teammates so could work together.

                                Robertson should not be at such short odds. Still needs more time and I'd like to see how he goes with the Crusaders in 2020 when the core of that team won't be there anymore. Maybe after the next RWC cycle.

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                                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                  How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                  I am concerned with the thought of Foster , without much recognized support behind him ,

                                  Put a good team around him , no where near as worried .

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                                  @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                  Assuming the bottom four are jokes...

                                  Schmidt and Cotter obviously seem a likely ticket. Gats worked under Foster at the Chiefs in '07, live down the street from one another and were team mates.

                                  Gats is a wild card though I could see him doing anything between wanting the Aussie job and happily settling as an assistant under Foster. Razor same thing except sub the Aussie job for an NH posting.

                                  Rennie is technically contracted to the end of the '19/20 European season which would make a head coach tilt difficult, but could be an assistant and join after the season like Smith did in '04 - doesn't really have any strong links to anyone listed there does he? Would be difficult to fall in behind Foster who he completely showed up in '12-13.

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                    Assuming the bottom four are jokes...

                                    Schmidt and Cotter obviously seem a likely ticket. Gats worked under Foster at the Chiefs in '07, live down the street from one another and were team mates.

                                    Gats is a wild card though I could see him doing anything between wanting the Aussie job and happily settling as an assistant under Foster. Razor same thing except sub the Aussie job for an NH posting.

                                    Rennie is technically contracted to the end of the '19/20 European season which would make a head coach tilt difficult, but could be an assistant and join after the season like Smith did in '04 - doesn't really have any strong links to anyone listed there does he? Would be difficult to fall in behind Foster who he completely showed up in '12-13.

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                                    @rotated said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    Rennie is technically contracted to the end of the '19/20 European season which would make a head coach tilt difficult, but could be an assistant and join after the season like Smith did in '04 - doesn't really have any strong links to anyone listed there does he? Would be difficult to fall in behind Foster who he completely showed up in '12-13.

                                    I think Rennie has the temperament to work under any of the others - maybe even Foster?

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                                      @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                      How many of those guys in the top 5 do we think could work together ?

                                      Foster and Gatland are former teammates so could work together.

                                      Robertson should not be at such short odds. Still needs more time and I'd like to see how he goes with the Crusaders in 2020 when the core of that team won't be there anymore. Maybe after the next RWC cycle.

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                                      @bovidae said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                      Robertson should not be at such short odds.

                                      The tough thing for Razor without international experience, his strong domestic resume with the Crusaders will just be met with Deans comparisons. Plus the 2016 Under 20s effort was a debacle and while most of the public won't care I'm sure it would be on the radar of the board if comparing resumes with Foster, Schmidt etc.

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                                        @bovidae said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                        Robertson should not be at such short odds.

                                        The tough thing for Razor without international experience, his strong domestic resume with the Crusaders will just be met with Deans comparisons. Plus the 2016 Under 20s effort was a debacle and while most of the public won't care I'm sure it would be on the radar of the board if comparing resumes with Foster, Schmidt etc.

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                                        @rotated said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                        @bovidae said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                        Robertson should not be at such short odds.

                                        The tough thing for Razor without international experience, his strong domestic resume with the Crusaders will just be met with Deans comparisons. Plus the 2016 Under 20s effort was a debacle and while most of the public won't care I'm sure it would be on the radar of the board if comparing resumes with Foster, Schmidt etc.

                                        I wonder how they balance out a win and a not making the finals though? Foster will be judged on his time in the ABs camp, Schmidt on his time in Europe and presumably not on his time as assistant at the Blues. Be interesting how a panel decides to rate all of that.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          TAB's hypothetical market on Hansens replacement...if they were running a real book I dont expect a few of those names would actually appear, or should be much longer odds...

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                                          @taniwharugby

                                          Where was this hypothetical market posted?

                                          I'd be piling into Schmidt and Gatland at those prices.

                                          Lay Fossie till your nose bleeds at evens.

                                          I'm interested to know what is peak Fossie, what is his best achievement as a coach?

                                          Some good stuff on Wikipedia about two of the candidates here.

                                          Foster is widely touted as the greatest New Zealand rugby player to never have played for the All Blacks.

                                          Scott Robertson (born 21 August 1974) is a New Zealand rugby union coach, former player and professional breakdancer.

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