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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @barbarian but would i have a beer with him? gee probably not. big quality i look for in my cricketers

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    @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

    @barbarian but would i have a beer with him? gee probably not. big quality i look for in my cricketers

    You'd have a beer with Hazlewood tho. And try to slip him a roofie 😉

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      For me I think Kombucha boy is already in the top four pace bowlers. Will have over 300 wickets bye end of calendar year which puts him in elite category anyway

      All subjective of course but only Lillee and McGrath are automatic entries
      Lillee, Quick, good average able to rip through teams with 10 wicket bags. The most by a pace bowler in Australia still. Based on recency ,most remember McGrath anyway and his stats speak for himself, best average, incredible amount of wickets

      Then a massive debate for remaining spot.. lots of names could fit here

      If two spinners then you have to think about Lyon, Grimmet, MacGill. Imagine having the third highest amount of test wickets in Australian history and not making the starting 11 (Lyon)

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        You can't be wrong on those coin toss selections. You've always got the fallback of arguing about balance. Fearsome speed and the other end consistently putting it in a near unplayable line and length. etc.

        Cummins and McGrath I think are unbackable in the modern era.

        Re Punter and Smith, I'd be swayed by Smith having a cumulative average over 60 during the period 2016-2022. That's astonishing, even if every other country suddenly forgot how to bowl and wickets were practice nets for batsmen.

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        #1464

        @antipodean said in Other Cricket:

        Re Punter and Smith, I'd be swayed by Smith having a cumulative average over 60 during the period 2016-2022. That's astonishing, even if every other country suddenly forgot how to bowl and wickets were practice nets for batsmen.

        Since 2018 it has actually been historically difficult for batting.

        2000 through to about 2017 was a relatively easy batting era. In particular, the 00s.

        (judging by batting overall averages)

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          #1465

          The mean batting average post WW2 is 30.50
          b054be80-e03e-4427-95ac-03c3b05a78c5-Screenshot 2025-01-31 at 4.18.21 PM.png

          Every year of the 2000s had an overall average north of that.

          https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;groupby=year;orderby=batting_average;orderbyad=reverse;size=100;spanmin1=01+Jan+1946;spanval1=span;template=results;type=battingScreenshot

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          • NTAN Offline
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            Annabell Sutherland - daughter of former Cricket Australia CEO James - brings up the first women's ton on the MCG.

            England are awful

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            • NTAN NTA

              Annabell Sutherland - daughter of former Cricket Australia CEO James - brings up the first women's ton on the MCG.

              England are awful

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              #1467

              @NTA said in Other Cricket:

              Annabell Sutherland - daughter of former Cricket Australia CEO James - brings up the first women's ton on the MCG.

              England are awful

              Watched the highlights package and the dropped catches were embarrassing - even a social cricket team would demand a higher standard than that. Players in catching positions seemed surprised by the ball coming to them .....

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              • bayimportsB bayimports

                For me I think Kombucha boy is already in the top four pace bowlers. Will have over 300 wickets bye end of calendar year which puts him in elite category anyway

                All subjective of course but only Lillee and McGrath are automatic entries
                Lillee, Quick, good average able to rip through teams with 10 wicket bags. The most by a pace bowler in Australia still. Based on recency ,most remember McGrath anyway and his stats speak for himself, best average, incredible amount of wickets

                Then a massive debate for remaining spot.. lots of names could fit here

                If two spinners then you have to think about Lyon, Grimmet, MacGill. Imagine having the third highest amount of test wickets in Australian history and not making the starting 11 (Lyon)

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                wrote on last edited by MN5
                #1468

                @bayimports said in Other Cricket:

                For me I think Kombucha boy is already in the top four pace bowlers. Will have over 300 wickets bye end of calendar year which puts him in elite category anyway

                All subjective of course but only Lillee and McGrath are automatic entries
                Lillee, Quick, good average able to rip through teams with 10 wicket bags. The most by a pace bowler in Australia still. Based on recency ,most remember McGrath anyway and his stats speak for himself, best average, incredible amount of wickets

                Then a massive debate for remaining spot.. lots of names could fit here

                If two spinners then you have to think about Lyon, Grimmet, MacGill. Imagine having the third highest amount of test wickets in Australian history and not making the starting 11 (Lyon)

                Lyon is absolutely no chance. You also haven’t mentioned Richie Benaud who I’d pick ahead of any of them based on what I’ve heard/read. Lyon is very good and had excellent longevity but not elite.

                Lillee, McGrath and Warne are the automatic picks for me.

                I’d go Pat Cummins as well.

                Gilchrist bats seven. Another no brainer. Others might have been better keepers but his overall impact is too much to ignore.

                It gets a wee bit tough from there on in.

                Hayden opens. I’m honestly not sure who partners him though.

                Bradman, Ponting, Smith in that order. Greg Chappell VERY unlucky.

                Then how the hell do you seperate Border and S Waugh for that last spot, not to mention Keith Miller for the all rounder position of 6 or 7 ?

                Can you have an all time Aussie XI without Border AND S Waugh ? Seems unthinkable but Miller was a legend ( again, an old timer who I’ve heard great things about )

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                  I don’t reckon they have quite the same depth in the bowling departmen

                  oof

                  maybe not from the early 90s

                  but beyond that? The four they have now are unlikely to make the 2nd XI and they are brilliant.

                  Even spin, i mean Warnie walks in. Nathan Lyon has 539 wickets.
                  Stuart MacGill has 200+ wickets at less than 30 as the forgotten leg spinner who only played when Warnie got himself suspended. And that's before black and white dudes like Richie Benaud.

                  i think if you start listing them out the list will start stretching fast than you think.

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                  wrote on last edited by Smudge
                  #1469

                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                  @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                  I don’t reckon they have quite the same depth in the bowling departmen

                  oof

                  maybe not from the early 90s

                  but beyond that? The four they have now are unlikely to make the 2nd XI and they are brilliant.

                  Even spin, i mean Warnie walks in. Nathan Lyon has 539 wickets.
                  Stuart MacGill has 200+ wickets at less than 30 as the forgotten leg spinner who only played when Warnie got himself suspended. And that's before black and white dudes like Richie Benaud.

                  i think if you start listing them out the list will start stretching fast than you think.

                  Add in the great Caversham export Clarrie Grimmett as well as Bill 'Tiger' O'Reilly from those black and white dudes.

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                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                    Annabell Sutherland - daughter of former Cricket Australia CEO James - brings up the first women's ton on the MCG.

                    England are awful

                    Watched the highlights package and the dropped catches were embarrassing - even a social cricket team would demand a higher standard than that. Players in catching positions seemed surprised by the ball coming to them .....

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                    #1470

                    @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                    Annabell Sutherland - daughter of former Cricket Australia CEO James - brings up the first women's ton on the MCG.

                    England are awful

                    Watched the highlights package and the dropped catches were embarrassing - even a social cricket team would demand a higher standard than that. Players in catching positions seemed surprised by the ball coming to them .....

                    Hear me out:

                    Sri Lanka 165
                    V
                    England Women 170

                    That's a close match!

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                    • NTAN Offline
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                      #1471

                      Alanna King is incredible to watch. Just landing everything and has 3 wickets this innings to go with 4 last innings (and probably unlucky the last wicket was a runout, denying her a 5th)

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                        #1472

                        Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

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                          MN5
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                          #1473

                          @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                          Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                          This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                            Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                            This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

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                            #1474

                            @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                            @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                            Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                            This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                            Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                              @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                              Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                              This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                              Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

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                              MN5
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1475

                              @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                              @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                              @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                              Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                              This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                              Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                              Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

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                                NTA
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                                #1476

                                King channeling Warne:

                                https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFhaiUYvQuR

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                  @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                  Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                  This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                  Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                  Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                  NTAN Offline
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                                  NTA
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1477

                                  @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                  @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                  Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                  This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                  Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                  Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                  Oh right.

                                  Well... See you at Lord for WTC th- ohhhh....

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                    Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                    This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                    Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                    Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                    Oh right.

                                    Well... See you at Lord for WTC th- ohhhh....

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                                    MN5
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1478

                                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                    @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                    @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                    Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                    This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                    Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                    Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                    Oh right.

                                    Well... See you at Lord for WTC th- ohhhh....

                                    We won the first one. That’s most important

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                      This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                      Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                      Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                      Oh right.

                                      Well... See you at Lord for WTC th- ohhhh....

                                      We won the first one. That’s most important

                                      NTAN Offline
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                                      NTA
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1479

                                      @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                      @NTA said in Other Cricket:

                                      Australia men v Australia women as to who can finish off their opposition quickest for an innings win

                                      This post could not possibly be any more Aussie than it already is.

                                      Didn't you guys lose to Sri Lanka? Like... Twice?

                                      Yeah but we didn’t drop a test to India

                                      Oh right.

                                      Well... See you at Lord for WTC th- ohhhh....

                                      We won the first one. That’s most important

                                      You're very special.

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                                      • NTAN Offline
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                                        #1480

                                        King bowls overs of class then gets a wicket from a rank full toss.

                                        Shit gets wickets

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                                        • SmudgeS Smudge

                                          @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                          @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                          I don’t reckon they have quite the same depth in the bowling departmen

                                          oof

                                          maybe not from the early 90s

                                          but beyond that? The four they have now are unlikely to make the 2nd XI and they are brilliant.

                                          Even spin, i mean Warnie walks in. Nathan Lyon has 539 wickets.
                                          Stuart MacGill has 200+ wickets at less than 30 as the forgotten leg spinner who only played when Warnie got himself suspended. And that's before black and white dudes like Richie Benaud.

                                          i think if you start listing them out the list will start stretching fast than you think.

                                          Add in the great Caversham export Clarrie Grimmett as well as Bill 'Tiger' O'Reilly from those black and white dudes.

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                                          wrote on last edited by bayimports
                                          #1481

                                          @Smudge said in Other Cricket:

                                          @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                          @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                          I don’t reckon they have quite the same depth in the bowling departmen

                                          oof

                                          maybe not from the early 90s

                                          but beyond that? The four they have now are unlikely to make the 2nd XI and they are brilliant.

                                          Even spin, i mean Warnie walks in. Nathan Lyon has 539 wickets.
                                          Stuart MacGill has 200+ wickets at less than 30 as the forgotten leg spinner who only played when Warnie got himself suspended. And that's before black and white dudes like Richie Benaud.

                                          i think if you start listing them out the list will start stretching fast than you think.

                                          Add in the great Caversham export Clarrie Grimmett as well as Bill 'Tiger' O'Reilly from those black and white dudes.

                                          Grimmets stats are that good, I suspect if he was born in Aus he is talked about more.

                                          Will remove tinfoil hat now lol

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