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2019 Rugby World Cup

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    Argies calling up their overseas stars. I think it's a measure of their strength in the back 3 that neither Juan Imhoff nor Santiago Cordero got chosen. Cordero in particular has had an excellent season for Exeter.

    I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

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      Argies calling up their overseas stars. I think it's a measure of their strength in the back 3 that neither Juan Imhoff nor Santiago Cordero got chosen. Cordero in particular has had an excellent season for Exeter.

      I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

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      @Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

      I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

      and Faumauina. And Luatua. And so on ... but as soon as we call up overseas players, you can kiss goodbye to quality rugby here in NZ. We just don't have the funds to compete with NH dollars

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        @Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

        and Faumauina. And Luatua. And so on ... but as soon as we call up overseas players, you can kiss goodbye to quality rugby here in NZ. We just don't have the funds to compete with NH dollars

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        @nzzp said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

        and Faumauina. And Luatua. And so on ... but as soon as we call up overseas players, you can kiss goodbye to quality rugby here in NZ. We just don't have the funds to compete with NH dollars

        I don’t think I said otherwise? Would be the death of NZ rugby.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

          I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

          and Faumauina. And Luatua. And so on ... but as soon as we call up overseas players, you can kiss goodbye to quality rugby here in NZ. We just don't have the funds to compete with NH dollars

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          @nzzp

          Only NH players New Zealand would consider selecting for RWC 2019 would be Luatua

          #6 is a position of weakness for them with no real standout candidates

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            Argies calling up their overseas stars. I think it's a measure of their strength in the back 3 that neither Juan Imhoff nor Santiago Cordero got chosen. Cordero in particular has had an excellent season for Exeter.

            I look forward to NZ calling up Vito and Piutau. Oh...wait.

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            @Billy-Tell

            Pumas are building up their squad nicely

            Jaguares are the 2nd best team in Super Rugby IMO & they're utilising young talent whilst keeping their gun players fresh

            Cordero might yet sneak in Covers FB & Wing & was the best FB in England this season

            Imhoff is a luxury player 31 years old, only covers wing & not played for Los Pumas in 3 years Great player but his time has passed

            Tucalet Boffelli Moyano Cordero are exceptional Back 3 options to take to Japan

            Add Delguy + Cancilliere & Pumas have depth as good as any nation in World Rugby

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              @nzzp

              Only NH players New Zealand would consider selecting for RWC 2019 would be Luatua

              #6 is a position of weakness for them with no real standout candidates

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              @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

              @nzzp

              Only NH players New Zealand would consider selecting for RWC 2019 would be Luatua

              #6 is a position of weakness for them with no real standout candidates

              I'd have a good look at Piutau. We are missing a good utility now DMac is done, and he was outstanding before he left. Not sure he'd make it, but would have a damn good look that's for sure.

              Too late for Carl Hayman to return?

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                @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                @nzzp

                Only NH players New Zealand would consider selecting for RWC 2019 would be Luatua

                #6 is a position of weakness for them with no real standout candidates

                I'd have a good look at Piutau. We are missing a good utility now DMac is done, and he was outstanding before he left. Not sure he'd make it, but would have a damn good look that's for sure.

                Too late for Carl Hayman to return?

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                @nzzp said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                Carl Hayman

                Piatau is one player I'd though about but he turns 28 in October

                He wont be around in 2023 for NZ so I'd invest in Bridge Reece etc
                as Naholo & B Smith will be done after Japan RWC

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                  @Billy-Tell

                  Pumas are building up their squad nicely

                  Jaguares are the 2nd best team in Super Rugby IMO & they're utilising young talent whilst keeping their gun players fresh

                  Cordero might yet sneak in Covers FB & Wing & was the best FB in England this season

                  Imhoff is a luxury player 31 years old, only covers wing & not played for Los Pumas in 3 years Great player but his time has passed

                  Tucalet Boffelli Moyano Cordero are exceptional Back 3 options to take to Japan

                  Add Delguy + Cancilliere & Pumas have depth as good as any nation in World Rugby

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                  @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

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                    @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

                    Even shit teams like Fiji and Scotland are ahead of them.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

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                      @taniwharugby

                      I believe they'll bounce back strong this year

                      Ledesma as Pumas HC & Quesada as Juguares HC are a serious coaching ticket

                      TRC this year starts with NZ travelling to ARG

                      Hansen has already stated he won't use any players who play in Super Rugby final

                      That means New Zealand will LIKELY be missing:

                      Moody Taylor Franks Whitelock S Barrett Read Todd

                      Mo'unga Crotty Bridge Havali Goodhue

                      Pumas can ambush NZ minus half their starters whilst using Euro based players are trying to nail a spot in RWC squad

                      Pumas will be a dangerous team this season

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                        @taniwharugby

                        I believe they'll bounce back strong this year

                        Ledesma as Pumas HC & Quesada as Juguares HC are a serious coaching ticket

                        TRC this year starts with NZ travelling to ARG

                        Hansen has already stated he won't use any players who play in Super Rugby final

                        That means New Zealand will LIKELY be missing:

                        Moody Taylor Franks Whitelock S Barrett Read Todd

                        Mo'unga Crotty Bridge Havali Goodhue

                        Pumas can ambush NZ minus half their starters whilst using Euro based players are trying to nail a spot in RWC squad

                        Pumas will be a dangerous team this season

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                        @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                        It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                          It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

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                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                          It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

                          I woulda thought Pumas would be pushing top five status by now instead of languishing at 10 in the rankings. The wins they get over SA and Aus in the 4N says as much about those two teams as it does about Los Pumas.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                            It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

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                            @taniwharugby

                            Progress has been made but more needs to be done

                            Ledesma & Quesada have & will continue to make a huge difference to Argentinian Rugby

                            This year will be a good marker for Los Pumas

                            Long term they'll be in good health as Kiwis & SA will be decimated with key personal playing in Europe & Japan

                            Jaguares have shown the way - in their last 22 regular season games they've beaten:

                            Sharks three times
                            Bulls three times
                            Stormers twice
                            Brumbies twice
                            Rebels
                            Waratahs
                            Chiefs
                            Blues
                            Hurricanes

                            and with a chance to beat Reds & Sunwolves within next 3 weeks

                            That leaves Crusaders Lions & Higlanders- 5 pt loss in Dunedin

                            That's an impressive list of victories once Jaguares got some competent coaching in their systems

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                              It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

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                              @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                              @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                              It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

                              I think that's a real risk given the form of the Jaguares and leaving a good proportion of ABs at home if they're in the Super final.

                              Unlike a notable Tahs supporter, i'm happy that the Jaguares are playing well. The strength of the competition requires good teams and the better the teams you play against, the higher your own standard has to become.

                              What Kearns is whining for is mediocrity.

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                                @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                @Jaguares4real time will tell, as I said, PUmas have not progessed as I would have hoped since they joined TRC.

                                It'd be great if they can press on and become a real force, more so with the hole Aussie is in (but happy if Pumas dont beat us this year πŸ™‚ )

                                I think that's a real risk given the form of the Jaguares and leaving a good proportion of ABs at home if they're in the Super final.

                                Unlike a notable Tahs supporter, i'm happy that the Jaguares are playing well. The strength of the competition requires good teams and the better the teams you play against, the higher your own standard has to become.

                                What Kearns is whining for is mediocrity.

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                                @antipodean yeah we did that one other time, was it 2007 with Jerry Collins named as Captain.

                                @Jaguares4real key is getting them to translate it from Super to the INternaituonal scene, I am sure if you have followed super rugby, you will know that Super form doesnt always translate, I am hoping the Pumas do step up.

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                                  @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  @Jaguares4real really hope the Jaguares form can lift the Pumas again, they have been disappointing the past few years.

                                  They have been historically very strong at peaking for RWCs (and before entering TRC - tests against the ABs). In a pool with France and England I back them to be one of the two best sides.

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                                    Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

                                    http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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                                      Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

                                      http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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                                      @Machpants Yikes! Hopefully, we've used up our full dose of frenchies by then and don't get them in the finals!

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                                        @Machpants Yikes! Hopefully, we've used up our full dose of frenchies by then and don't get them in the finals!

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                                        @Stargazer I guess we'll be more used to them if/when we do pick them up in the knock outs?

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                                          Refs have been announced, we get French refs first three games....

                                          http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=116

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                                          @Machpants I hope the jaapies don't get in and do a deal with the ref before the game.....

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