2019 Rugby World Cup
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@Snowy in that alternate universe I'd be pissed for sure, but I wonder if the French are happy sitting on the opposite side of the draw to us, which is why they aren't expressing their displeasure...mind you, they are too busy mutinising (surely that's a real word) within their squad to worry about it...
@taniwharugby Yeah the French always have their own issues and then do something that fcks everybody else up.
How about the whole 2 draws thing though? We miss out because we didn't get to play 2 games. That was probably more within the realms of possibility.
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With all due respect to Italy, the back-to-back defending champs and pre-tournament favourites going out because of this cancellation, and a team that is a bit shit, and had basically zero chance of winning the thing, going out because they were denied a chance to get a bonus point win against a team they have never beaten, and never scored more than 2 tries against, would be slightly different stories.
So in short, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.
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With all due respect to Italy, the back-to-back defending champs and pre-tournament favourites going out because of this cancellation, and a team that is a bit shit, and had basically zero chance of winning the thing, going out because they were denied a chance to get a bonus point win against a team they have never beaten, and never scored more than 2 tries against, would be slightly different stories.
So in short, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.
Too many words, may as well just said:
@mariner4life said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
With all due respect to Italy, shut your minnow traps eye-ties.
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Sympathy for Italy ,
But Im more pissed off there is no rugby on ,
From a personal point of view , ive had a little bit of trouble getting into this WC so far compared to the past , and was thinking this weekend the interest would start ramping up , and now this
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I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the realms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
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What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
@Winger said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
What a complete shambles this has become.
It makes the RWC organizers look like incompetent fools
I think the organisers have been v. good.
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@pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?
Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?
Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?
WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.
I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.
@dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.
For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?
Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?
Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?
WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.
I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.
Fantasy? The Boks were tipped by many to beat us in that first game.
And the Boks have never lost to a lower ranked team then come very close to tipping us out in a RWC before have they? That just wouldn’t happen. Did you guys watch in 2015?How about 2016 when Italy DID beat the boks?
Let me guess, you guys don’t think Ireland are a threat anymore because they got ambushed by Japan a couple of weeks ago.
And yes ABs vs Italy is always a bankable win.
To not also secure a BP while doing it with a Quarter final place on the line would be one of the biggest failures in AB history.
In the 20 years we have only failed to put 40 on them 2 times from 11 games. Both in 2009 with very B grade starting teams. The last two scores have been in the 60’s. -
@dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.
For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?
Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?
Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?
WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.
I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.
Fantasy? The Boks were tipped by many to beat us in that first game.
And the Boks have never lost to a lower ranked team then come very close to tipping us out in a RWC before have they? That just wouldn’t happen. Did you guys watch in 2015?How about 2016 when Italy DID beat the boks?
Let me guess, you guys don’t think Ireland are a threat anymore because they got ambushed by Japan a couple of weeks ago.
And yes ABs vs Italy is always a bankable win.
To not also secure a BP while doing it with a Quarter final place on the line would be one of the biggest failures in AB history.
In the 20 years we have only failed to put 40 on them 2 times from 11 games. Both in 2009 with very B grade starting teams. The last two scores have been in the 60’s.@pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.
So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.
In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.
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@taniwharugby As would we be, which was the point. I think. Maybe...
@Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@taniwharugby As would we be, which was the point. I think. Maybe...
Umm yeah i think that was the point. Can’t remember now. Too busy arguing about hypothetical situations.
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@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
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@dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui I'd say that your multiple scenario's are way out into Fantasy Land.
For a start you have Italy beating the Boks who have beaten us - OK both those have happened before - perfect storm etc but then us beating the team that beat the team that beat us is a bankable BP win? Bit of a failure of logic there
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui some big old sliding fantasy world doors there...in this world, we lose to the Boks and then they lose to Italy?
Then, our cancelled game v Italy is somehow bankable despite us losing to Boks and them losing to Italy?
Yea I'd be pissed if it happened to us, but by the same token what else do you do?
WR have made the call (imo 24 hours too early - what is the 'phoon looking like now?) and unfortunately it is what it is.
I am surprised the French aren't making more of it, their game was the most pivotal of the 2 canned.
Fantasy? The Boks were tipped by many to beat us in that first game.
And the Boks have never lost to a lower ranked team then come very close to tipping us out in a RWC before have they? That just wouldn’t happen. Did you guys watch in 2015?How about 2016 when Italy DID beat the boks?
Let me guess, you guys don’t think Ireland are a threat anymore because they got ambushed by Japan a couple of weeks ago.
And yes ABs vs Italy is always a bankable win.
To not also secure a BP while doing it with a Quarter final place on the line would be one of the biggest failures in AB history.
In the 20 years we have only failed to put 40 on them 2 times from 11 games. Both in 2009 with very B grade starting teams. The last two scores have been in the 60’s. -
@pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.
So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.
In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.
So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.
In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.
I get that. But i hate it when people have a whinge about something only when it screws them over but are ok with it if it is someone else. This situation should never have happened in the first place.
And again back in hypothetical land. I would never put it past the Boks to play well against us then be utter shit the next week against someone else. They do that every year in TRC.
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@pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.
So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.
In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui newsflash...we beat SA and they thumped Italy.
So no need to worry about your fantasy world where we lost to SA then they turn around and lose to Italy.
In the real world, yes Italy was a 5 points guaranteed (Parisse says I am disrespecting Italy) but I was talking about your fantasy world where Italy were on fire after beating a Bok side that rolled us.
Exactly!
Don’t worry about it, it was never going to happen.
Apparently people are going to die as a result of this typhoon. Rugby is just a game.
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@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
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@pukunui likewise the ABs were tipped by many to win that as well. Dry powder and all that. Two new wingers and a more settled back row.
@ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui likewise the ABs were tipped by many to win that as well. Dry powder and all that. Two new wingers and a more settled back row.
And? That doesn’t mean that the Boks had no chance of beating us. The results between us over the last few years have been bloody close.
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@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread. -
An interesting point, na throw away line in the Torygraph, was that 'preparations to move the England France game were well underway' when it was realised it was going to have to be two, possibly three, games moved. That was impossible. So to make it consistent they canned them both, and have no contingency for the third. So I guess the much vaunted contingency plans talked about pre cup, if this article is correct, only really covered one game getting into trouble.
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@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.Ah. For a minute there I thought you meant people who’s opinions were actually worth something.
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@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.Ah. For a minute there I thought you meant people who’s opinions were actually worth something.
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.Ah. For a minute there I thought you meant people who’s opinions were actually worth something.
Maybe predicting wasn’t the right word for them. “Hoping like hell” would probably be more appropriate.
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@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@jegga said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
@pukunui said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:
I wonder if people would be as ok with this situation if it was the ABs being knocked out because they didn’t get to play the last game.
Eg. We lose the first game against boks by 8.
Italy then beats Boks. Assuming everyone picks up BP wins over Canada and Namibia. Then what should have been a pretty bankable BP win against Italy to get into the Quarters is declared a draw instead.
Bye bye Two time defending champs.
This place would go into meltdown.That scenario isn’t out of the rhelms of possibly. Not like, you know, a typhoon during typhoon season. That would never happen.
Realms
Also if we were that shit I’d be stoked that our rwc ended early .
“That shit” as in we lost a pool game to the Boks? Doesn’t take much of a slide to have that happen. Plenty were predicting it.
Who was predicting it?
The whole Northern hemisphere rugby media for one. Our last game against them was a draw.
Some very short memories on this thread.Don’t think the memories are short, just questioning your theory/predictions.
