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6 Nations 2019

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  • M Machpants

    No one's saying it's not winning rugby, just that it is pretty unexciting rugby, Victor. The contest can be tense and exciting even if the rugby isn't. Two different things. I'd prefer tense and exciting contests of quality rugby, but it doesn't happen often!

    I don't agree with his conclusion but the stats he quotes tell a story
    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/19/six-nations-a-personal-triumph-for-warren-gatland-but-not-wales/

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    @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

    No one's saying it's not winning rugby, just that it is pretty unexciting rugby, Victor. The contest can be tense and exciting even if the rugby isn't. Two different things. I'd prefer tense and exciting contests of quality rugby, but it doesn't happen often!

    I don't agree with his conclusion but the stats he quotes tell a story
    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/19/six-nations-a-personal-triumph-for-warren-gatland-but-not-wales/

    Either Wales' opponents are really fucking stupid or the majority of the penalties we kicked were sacrificed by the opposition in the knowledge that if they didn't kill the play then we were about to open them up.

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      Yeah it's the ABs way too, give the three we'll score 5/7. Wales will just not let anyone else score at all!

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        The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

        I've increasingly come around to the theory that Anscombe payed the price for the messages that were sent to Pat Lam by other parties. Really shitty to do to a young player, if true.

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          The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

          I've increasingly come around to the theory that Anscombe payed the price for the messages that were sent to Pat Lam by other parties. Really shitty to do to a young player, if true.

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          @Tim

          Pretty sure it was Kirwan

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            @Tim

            Pretty sure it was Kirwan

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            @Duluth The question for me is whether it was done for reasons unrelated to Anscombe's ability etc.

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              @Duluth The question for me is whether it was done for reasons unrelated to Anscombe's ability etc.

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              @Tim

              Sure. Kirwan had shitty feedback from another player

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              • TimT Tim

                The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

                I've increasingly come around to the theory that Anscombe payed the price for the messages that were sent to Pat Lam by other parties. Really shitty to do to a young player, if true.

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                @Tim said in 6 Nations 2019:

                The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

                He took the ball to the line frequently, and then either ran or distributed. Generally, though, he sat in the pocket, which made defenders lick their lips at an undersized 10.

                But yeah, didn't Ma'a (round 1) refuse to play outside him, and then pull the pin and shoot off the the Highlanders?

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                  Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

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                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/racist-text-to-pat-lam-confirmed-2012051717

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                    • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                      Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

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                      @African-Monkey said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself

                      What did Gareth do/say?

                      I remember Mark Anscombes excuse that a friend had taken his phone and sent the message

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                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                        Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

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                        @African-Monkey said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

                        Is there any evidence of that?

                        Anscombe wasn't a good 10 in NZ so he could have been deregistered for that alone, he was a passable fill in 15 for the Chiefs for a season. Parkes wasn't Super level in NZ either.

                        I guess players can improve in different environments as these two appear to have.

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                          Sorry can't confirm it from any articles or anything but was told by the son of a former Auckland player during the 80s who I won't name incase he is reading. He was also dating JKs niece as well at the time and confirmed that Nonu was particularly disgusted with Mark Anscombe's comments at the time and Gareth for not criticising or apologising for what his father had said behind closed doors and that Kirwan had a choice to make out of Anscombe and Nonu and sure enough Kirwan chose Nonu who fucked off anyway. This conversation started as he heard me criticising Kirwan for letting Anscombe go for Chris Noakes funnily enough haha.

                          I'm sure most probably don't believe me haha but that is what I was told and if anyone is interested in who the son of the player was you can message me haha.

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                          • R reprobate

                            @Rapido no. we did what we frequently do when we get beaten. this usually happens when we play a team that wants the ball, plays simple and direct on attack, and has a rush defence: we allow them to retain the ball and build momentum, then when we finally do get the ball we try shitty short kicks that give the ball straight back.

                            everyone says 'the opposition is up quick, put it in behind them'. bullshit. the grubber is not something you should do just because the opposition rushes, it is something you do because there is a gap. the potatoes have covered the damn gap, so don't kick the ball away dickheads.

                            i am still cross about this.

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                            @reprobate said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            the grubber is not something you should do

                            FIFY

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                              AWJ named Player of the Tournament, and joins Chris Coleman and John Charles in being awarded The Freedom of Swansea

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47643706?fbclid=IwAR3bSITEqo0ttXedzJeXIytISFLnQiMocPZW3QlEewdu6F4eny11Uf7_qMA

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                                AWJ named Player of the Tournament, and joins Chris Coleman and John Charles in being awarded The Freedom of Swansea

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47643706?fbclid=IwAR3bSITEqo0ttXedzJeXIytISFLnQiMocPZW3QlEewdu6F4eny11Uf7_qMA

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                                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                AWJ named Player of the Tournament, and joins Chris Coleman and John Charles in being awarded The Freedom of Swansea

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47643706?fbclid=IwAR3bSITEqo0ttXedzJeXIytISFLnQiMocPZW3QlEewdu6F4eny11Uf7_qMA

                                Doesn't that mean he is free to drive his livestock through the town? Fill your boots A-W J, you've earned it!

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                                  Spot on analysis

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