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Black Caps v India

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  • sharkS Offline
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    No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

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      No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

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      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

      No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

      Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

        No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

        Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

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        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

        @shark said in Black Caps v India:

        No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

        Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

        I'm still keen on the rest of theses matches. Just disappointed it is a D/N as it would be great to have on at work

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        • No QuarterN Offline
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          Also Kohli going home takes away a fair amount of interest. Beating them with no Kohli and Bumrah puts a fairly large asterisk next to the W.

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          • No QuarterN No Quarter

            Also Kohli going home takes away a fair amount of interest. Beating them with no Kohli and Bumrah puts a fairly large asterisk next to the W.

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            @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

            Also Kohli going home takes away a fair amount of interest. Beating them with no Kohli and Bumrah puts a fairly large asterisk next to the W.

            Maybe but getting smoked by them without those two also puts a lot of ??????? on the team too.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              @shark said in Black Caps v India:

              No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

              Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

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              @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

              @shark said in Black Caps v India:

              No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

              Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

              Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

              Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

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                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:

                @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

                Oh yeah I will always be on the bandwagon no matter how damaged it gets. And unlike @Hooroo I am happy it is a D/N as I will be able to tune in after work, as some of us actually have to work when we're at "work".

                But I can see how interest has waned a bit given the hidings we've taken. We seem strongest in the test arena at the moment, which is crazy given how few we play.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                  @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                  No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                  Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                  Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                  Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

                  Oh yeah I will always be on the bandwagon no matter how damaged it gets. And unlike @Hooroo I am happy it is a D/N as I will be able to tune in after work, as some of us actually have to work when we're at "work".

                  But I can see how interest has waned a bit given the hidings we've taken. We seem strongest in the test arena at the moment, which is crazy given how few we play.

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                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:

                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                  @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                  No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                  Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                  Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                  Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

                  Oh yeah I will always be on the bandwagon no matter how damaged it gets. And unlike @Hooroo I am happy it is a D/N as I will be able to tune in after work, as some of us actually have to work when we're at "work".

                  But I can see how interest has waned a bit given the hidings we've taken. We seem strongest in the test arena at the moment, which is crazy given how few we play.

                  I know, there's been so many articles saying this is our best ever team and notwithstanding Paddles and co efforts in the 80s I truly believe it is in all forms.

                  Unfortunately India are crazy Good, probably better.

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                    No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                    Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                    Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                    Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

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                    @Donsteppa I'm still watching intently from over here, as well.

                    I think our batsmen have performed poorly in this series- rather than that we've just been completely outclassed.

                    Our bowlers not so much - they've been about par, but maybe Tim Southee should have been higher up the pecking order than I (and Stead) thought.

                    I go back to this series from 15 months ago - pretty much the same teams and we were very competitive.

                    What's changed?

                    India has got much better or our batsmen have been much worse?

                    http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/18028/nz-in-ind-odis-2017-18

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                      No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                      Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                      Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                      Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

                      Oh yeah I will always be on the bandwagon no matter how damaged it gets. And unlike @Hooroo I am happy it is a D/N as I will be able to tune in after work, as some of us actually have to work when we're at "work".

                      But I can see how interest has waned a bit given the hidings we've taken. We seem strongest in the test arena at the moment, which is crazy given how few we play.

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                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v India:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                      No direct discussion as yet on todays' game just illustrates how little interest there is left in these two dead rubbers.

                      Think a lot of people fell off the bandwagon this series, just watching from a safe distance to see if we can nab a win before jumping back on.

                      Still watching intently from this corner of the bandwagon, just have a nagging feeling that this is a series where we're simply outclassed....

                      Hoping for a win where India have no Kohli and they maybe relax after wrapping up the series, and tighten up slightly at having no Kohli to bat with them.

                      Oh yeah I will always be on the bandwagon no matter how damaged it gets. And unlike @Hooroo I am happy it is a D/N as I will be able to tune in after work, as some of us actually have to work when we're at "work".

                      But I can see how interest has waned a bit given the hidings we've taken. We seem strongest in the test arena at the moment, which is crazy given how few we play.

                      Hey hey hey!! That is one of my few multitasking skills!!!

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                        In other news - I reckon they'll play Munro again.

                        Bracewell and Sodhi obviously out and Neesham and Astle/Southee in. Maybe all three with Ferguson also missing out.

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                        • sharkS Offline
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                          The craziest thing with this team and it's lack of runs? We have in our top four, three of NZ's 5 greatest ODI batsmen of all time. Taylor is a clear #1, in my book.

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                          • sharkS shark

                            The craziest thing with this team and it's lack of runs? We have in our top four, three of NZ's 5 greatest ODI batsmen of all time. Taylor is a clear #1, in my book.

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                            @shark said in Black Caps v India:

                            The craziest thing with this team and it's lack of runs? We have in our top four, three of NZ's 5 greatest ODI batsmen of all time. Taylor is a clear #1, in my book.

                            That's pretty sad reading. It's not like it's Vincent, the Marshall, Styris or any other battlers......They are as you say our very best ever.

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                              I care, but sheesh these fullas are bloody good. Frustrating that we've gone so long with only Taylor firing to any level. It's still hard to tell how big the gap is between us, are we playing average as well as them putting us under pressure? or are we just genuinely not in their league?

                              In a weird kind of way if someone like Munro fires it's kind of too little too late imo (at least for him). It'd be better to see Guppy and Kane hit some form as we know they are locked in. In saying that it seems Munro still has plenty of leeway - but how long will that last?

                              Bowlers can kind of push back till we get a defensible total. Boult is going pretty well, but has had fuck all support.

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                                From what I have seen of Kane he is very much in form - but India have been very good at frustrating him with a nagging line and length and he has uncharacteristically thrown his wicket away 3 times. It doesn't help when the openers are out so early as he knows they need 300 to compete and with Taylor being a slow starter, one of them has to force it a little.

                                Now if the Indians would just pitch a couple short outside off, a couple on the pads and throw in some half volleys then things would be very different. They could learn a lot from watching NZ bowling ....

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                                • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                  I care, but sheesh these fullas are bloody good. Frustrating that we've gone so long with only Taylor firing to any level. It's still hard to tell how big the gap is between us, are we playing average as well as them putting us under pressure? or are we just genuinely not in their league?

                                  In a weird kind of way if someone like Munro fires it's kind of too little too late imo (at least for him). It'd be better to see Guppy and Kane hit some form as we know they are locked in. In saying that it seems Munro still has plenty of leeway - but how long will that last?

                                  Bowlers can kind of push back till we get a defensible total. Boult is going pretty well, but has had fuck all support.

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                                  @Paekakboyz I think the die is probably cast with Munro now. Can't see them bringing in Will Young after this - so I reckon he's going to the CWC as a first choice opener.

                                  I reckon Chris Woakes has written the blueprint for getting rid of Munro - full and wide and nick him out. Indians will have watched that!

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                                    Nichols to open. Munro dropped.

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      Nichols to open. Munro dropped.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Nichols to open. Munro dropped.

                                      Thank Goodness for that sense!!!

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                                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                        From what I have seen of Kane he is very much in form - but India have been very good at frustrating him with a nagging line and length and he has uncharacteristically thrown his wicket away 3 times. It doesn't help when the openers are out so early as he knows they need 300 to compete and with Taylor being a slow starter, one of them has to force it a little.

                                        Now if the Indians would just pitch a couple short outside off, a couple on the pads and throw in some half volleys then things would be very different. They could learn a lot from watching NZ bowling ....

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                                        @KiwiPie Have no fear, Khaleel Ahmed is here.

                                        This is good, I want to see how Pandya and the rest of the bowling unit responds without Shami breaking through up front.

                                        Glad to see phenom Gill get the debut, but not at the expense of Rayudu and Karthik missing out on badly needed game time.

                                        This gonna be gooooooood.

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                                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                          Nichols to open. Munro dropped.

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                                          @Crazy-Horse Yeah - lots more changes than I expected.

                                          Plenty of bowling options - but, maybe not all of them particularly good.

                                          Boult
                                          Henry
                                          Neesham
                                          Santner
                                          Astle
                                          De Grandhomme
                                          Little Kane

                                          Batting a long way down - let's hope Nicholls does well and we don't need all those options!

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