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2019 club rugby

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    Went down to Waipukurau to watch the Central v Clive match.

    Brodie Retallick played 51 minutes for Central, didn't get actively involved but made one charge which led to a try. His locking partner was Ben Parsons, no sign of elder brother Tom.

    Unsurprisingly, Central had their biggest crowd of the year.

    Josdh Kaifa played second five for Clive and replaced at halftime - don't know if it was injury or tactical. One who did stand out for Clive was flanker Liam Udy-Johns, his first year out of school (last year's Hastings BHS captain.

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      Went down to Waipukurau to watch the Central v Clive match.

      Brodie Retallick played 51 minutes for Central, didn't get actively involved but made one charge which led to a try. His locking partner was Ben Parsons, no sign of elder brother Tom.

      Unsurprisingly, Central had their biggest crowd of the year.

      Josdh Kaifa played second five for Clive and replaced at halftime - don't know if it was injury or tactical. One who did stand out for Clive was flanker Liam Udy-Johns, his first year out of school (last year's Hastings BHS captain.

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      @Number-10 Kaifa in the backs??? I know he's been moving between 6 and 7, but this is something else!

      Udy-Johns was outstanding for Hastings last year; good to hear he's playing well in club rugby, too. I'm not sure whether we will have a good U19 squad this year and whether we have good candidates for next year's NZU20s, but he should be one of them. That is, if there's a new coach, because with Philpott, I don't expect anything anymore.

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        #186

        Yeah, odd to see Kaifa in the backline. Apparently his 40 minutes stint was because he played all 80 minutes for the Magpies midweek v Manawatu, and there was nothing on the result for Clive - the semi-finalists had already been confirmed last week.

        NOB Marist beat Tamatea 133-7, even with the game being called off seven minutes early.

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        • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

          Teddy is still pretty young (18?) but seems to have all the skills. Holds up his side of the scum well, seems to do his job as a lifter, and is very effective with his build with ball in hand, more like a hooker than a prop). If he keeps injury free and continues to learn his trade, could easily seem him in black and white in the next couple of years, then maybe a higher level after proving himself.

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          have just come across this forum of great comments and interesting perspectives this morning.

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            Teddy is still pretty young (18?) but seems to have all the skills. Holds up his side of the scum well, seems to do his job as a lifter, and is very effective with his build with ball in hand, more like a hooker than a prop). If he keeps injury free and continues to learn his trade, could easily seem him in black and white in the next couple of years, then maybe a higher level after proving himself.

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            @Stockcar86
            From my perspective I don’t think 18yr olds have enough club experience to play at NPC level ...constant injuries , mental health , entitlements ... let them evolve in their own time , thoughts ?

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              MAC 50 (Jackson Waerea, Everard Reid, Paul Fa'amoe, Filimone Asolua, Falemiga Selesele, Roger Paewai, Vailoa Kereki, Taina Huia tries; Tom Iosefo 5 conversions)
              Tamatea 31 (unavailable).
              HT: 24-12 to MAC.

              Clive 19 (Zac Southwick 2, Eti Collins tries; Tianua Poto 2 cons)
              Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 26 (Kingi Teamo, Hayden Hann, Ted Symes, Kane Nepe-Apatu tries; Zion Clarke 2 cons, Tipene Lord con).
              HT: 19-7 to Pirate.

              Central 24 (Mckenzie Smith, Tom Beachem, Mathias Konia, Warwick Flingsby tries; Brandon Hardwidge 2 cons)
              Napier Technical Old Boys 23 (Misi Lealaisalona, Tane McGuire, Tamatiu Samuels tries; Leighton Shaw 2 pen, 1 con).
              HT: 10-8 to Central.

              Hastings Rugby and Sports 31 (Ben Smith 2, Jacob Devery, Sakopo Ofa tries; Smith 4 cons)
              Taradale Rugby and Sports 56 (Andrew Gardner, Cristobal Niedmann, Ioakopo Mapu, Nathan Ramsay, Grayson Hewitt, Caleb Makene, Angelo Mufana tries; Brad Trusedale 6 cons, 3 pens).
              HT: 28-24 to Taradale.

              Napier Old Boys Marist 47 (unavailable)
              Havelock North 17 (Ryan PTongia 2, Jessie Paewai tries; PTongia con).
              HT: 35-0 to NOBM.

              What's up with the HBT always getting players' names wrong?

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              @Stargazer HBT - you are right ! one job and one job only , write an article with correct spelling .

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                @Stockcar86
                From my perspective I don’t think 18yr olds have enough club experience to play at NPC level ...constant injuries , mental health , entitlements ... let them evolve in their own time , thoughts ?

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                @The-Observer swings and roundabouts.

                If you have a potential star player and they don't get a NPC contract, there is a chance they may move somewhere else that will offer them a contract.

                Also, I'd rather have an 18 year old apprenticing in a NPC side than that position taken by a 22-23 year old journeyman from another province who didn't secure a contract in their home province, just here to play NPC and not club rugby

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                  @Stockcar86
                  From my perspective I don’t think 18yr olds have enough club experience to play at NPC level ...constant injuries , mental health , entitlements ... let them evolve in their own time , thoughts ?

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                  @The-Observer fine line. Zac made the Magpies first year out and was one of the best in the NPC that year. Izzy played in 7th form which I think was just to stop cricket trying to sign him (obviously he was good). His D at school was never his strength and think the jump to NPC at that age wouldn't have helped. Think much of his d got hidden over his career being at fullback/wong for Crusaders and The All Blacks. He was never bad but never great. More than made up for it in other areas.

                  I haven't seen too many young guns get promoted and look out of place eg the hastings boys over the last few years. Thinking back over the years to Hika, Alby, Glen Horton, Tamifuna (not sure when Bucky was first selected). Agree would much rather home grown youngin get selected than Marvin Karawana...

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                    Surely, a future Magpie?

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12248027

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                      It's a bit unusual that he played no rep age-grade rugby in HB, but is reassuring to see that "unidentified" players through the schools can still make it.

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                        Maddison Trophy semi-finals tomorrow.

                        Weather is forecast for a superb winter's day of 19 degrees.

                        (1) NOB Marist v (4) Havelock North

                        (2) Taradale v (3) Hastings RS

                        You would expect NOB Marist to beat Havelock North (right, @Stockcar86 ?) but the Taradale v Hastings RS one should be a lot closer.

                        Having watched all the clubs at least once this year, I reckon Taradale and Hastings RS have the two biggest forward packs in the comp.

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                          Maddison Trophy semi-finals tomorrow.

                          Weather is forecast for a superb winter's day of 19 degrees.

                          (1) NOB Marist v (4) Havelock North

                          (2) Taradale v (3) Hastings RS

                          You would expect NOB Marist to beat Havelock North (right, @Stockcar86 ?) but the Taradale v Hastings RS one should be a lot closer.

                          Having watched all the clubs at least once this year, I reckon Taradale and Hastings RS have the two biggest forward packs in the comp.

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                          @Number-10 Yeah, if I was able to watch one game, it would be Taradale v Hastings.

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                            Maddison Trophy semi-finals tomorrow.

                            Weather is forecast for a superb winter's day of 19 degrees.

                            (1) NOB Marist v (4) Havelock North

                            (2) Taradale v (3) Hastings RS

                            You would expect NOB Marist to beat Havelock North (right, @Stockcar86 ?) but the Taradale v Hastings RS one should be a lot closer.

                            Having watched all the clubs at least once this year, I reckon Taradale and Hastings RS have the two biggest forward packs in the comp.

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                            @Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:

                            Maddison Trophy semi-finals tomorrow.

                            Weather is forecast for a superb winter's day of 19 degrees.

                            (1) NOB Marist v (4) Havelock North

                            (2) Taradale v (3) Hastings RS

                            You would expect NOB Marist to beat Havelock North (right, @Stockcar86 ?) but the Taradale v Hastings RS one should be a lot closer.

                            Agreed. I don't expect the villagers to get too close to NOBM, assuming not many injuries to key players, but the other game could go either way. I'll probably go watch the Taradale HRS game.

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                              Napier Old Boys Marist:
                              Liam Edwards, Mitch Drew, Saia Paese, Stacey Ili, Michael Buckley, Johnny Lauano, Zac Donaldson, Matt Gardner (captain), Pouvi Fatialofa, Ricky Hayes, Sean Skeet, Tyler Symon-Burke, Patrick Teddy, Jack Nelson-Murray, Lee Moleili.
                              Substitutes: Forwards, Terry Marsh, Chris Benson, Matt Thompson, Migao Lauano. Backs, Ellery Wilson, Pedro Benzanilla-Corte, Sami Lauano.

                              Havelock North:
                              Ryan Tongia, Anzelo Tuitavuki, Will McGoon, Kalin Paewai (captain), Trent Hape, Adam Blake, Isaac Paewai, Albert Hemopo, Jacob Stephenson, Shane Cusack, Patrick Allen, Phil McRoberts, Simote Tuitufu, Matt Morrison, Jasper Wylie.
                              Substitutes: Forwards, Wayne Lush, Paea Taulanga, Devan Flanders. Backs, Matt Hill, J'ndre Liebenberg, Kisione Lama, Farani Tupai.

                              Taradale Rugby and Sports:
                              Caleb Makene, Ashton Tuck, Ollie Sapsford, Lester Maulolo, Junior Malielegaoi, Brad Truesdale, Humphrey Sheild, Iakopo Mapu, Cristobal Niedmann, Eru Wano, Mikaele Tapili, Andrew Gardner (captain), Jody Allen, Noel Sanft, Namatahi Waa.
                              Substitutes: Forwards, Jacob Baker, Lolani Faleiva, Ian Rore, Angelo Mufana, Jordan Kupa. Backs, Thomas Eden, Grayson Ewart.

                              Hastings Rugby and Sports:
                              Penetana Smith, Neria Fomai, Timo Vaiusu, Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u, Mason Emerson, Danny Toala, Jayden Rihia, Danya Tulou, Fale Matamata, Jardine Chung Ching, Lucas Albornoz, Jessie Lesa-Sipaia, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Jacob Devery, Jason Long (captain).
                              Substitutes: Forwards, Miracle Lolofie, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u/Jono Makris, Aleki Vuki, Aostasi Fa'avae, Manase Uaisele. Backs, Folau Fakatava, Shamara Brooks.

                              Hurricanes and Magpies utility back Danny Toala will start at first five-eighth for Auto Super Shoppe Hastings Rugby and Sports. Highlanders loosie Marino Mikaele-Tu'u is doubtful with shin issues and has been bracketed on the subs bench with Jono Makris.
                              
                              Highlanders halfback Folau Fakatava will be used off the bench. Hastings manager James Rosenberg said the visitors have rewarded halfback Jayden Rihia, the team's top try scorer this season with 16, with a start. Rosenberg pointed out new Argentinian lock Lucas Albornoz, who has slotted in well, flats with props Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe and Aleki Vuki.
                              
                              "All three have been nagged by the flu this week and lost 15 to 20kgs between them. We're hoping they will be right by kick off."
                              

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12249033

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                                So Stacey Ili and Sam McNicol not playing for NOB. Hopefully not long term injury or concussion for Sam

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                                  Taradale up 14-10 at half time

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                                    NOB 14-12 at the break

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                                      Fakatava on at halftime. Looking forward to his match up with Shield

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                                        Final 23-17 HRS

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                                          Fakatava on at halftime. Looking forward to his match up with Shield

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                                          @Stockcar86 said in 2019 club rugby:

                                          Fakatava on at halftime. Looking forward to his match up with Shield

                                          Can you say something about this match-up?

                                          Did Marino M-T play? Also, it has been a very long time since I saw his twin brother play; how do you rate Antonio? Is he a realistic Magpies prospect?

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