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2019 club rugby

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  • Number 10N Number 10

    @Higgins Tech defeated Pirates 25-17.

    Smashed 'em, bro!

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    @Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:

    @Higgins Tech defeated Pirates 25-17.

    Smashed 'em, bro!

    Up the mighty Phoenix! Bumpy season so far. Peaking for round 2...

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      Went to Tareha Reserve to watch unbeaten Taradale in the top of the table match v Hastings RS.

      Two evenly matched teams, and probably the teams with the two biggest forward packs in the comp.

      Taradale won 29-15, it was 15-15 midway through the second half, then the Hastings RS rserve hooker got a yellow card, and Taradale scored two converted tries in the time he was in the bin.

      Magpies WTG member Jacob Devery went off injured after just 15 minutes.

      Just for Higgins: Tech have made it three wins in a row beating Central 43-21, after losing their first five matches ... Indian bookmakers?

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        Went to Tareha Reserve to watch unbeaten Taradale in the top of the table match v Hastings RS.

        Two evenly matched teams, and probably the teams with the two biggest forward packs in the comp.

        Taradale won 29-15, it was 15-15 midway through the second half, then the Hastings RS rserve hooker got a yellow card, and Taradale scored two converted tries in the time he was in the bin.

        Magpies WTG member Jacob Devery went off injured after just 15 minutes.

        Just for Higgins: Tech have made it three wins in a row beating Central 43-21, after losing their first five matches ... Indian bookmakers?

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        @Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:

        Just for Higgins: Tech have made it three wins in a row beating Central 43-21, after > losing their first five matches ... Indian bookmakers?

        🙂

        To be fair my guys have had the most difficult draw possible with the opposition in the first four games being pretty much the four teams you expect to be in the Maddison Trophy Semifinals later this year. Maybe we deliberately tanked a few games to influence the bookmakers into offering attractive odds in future games. Anyway we must now have got our points differential down to less than 150 now!

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          Copied from Twitter: all results from 27 April:

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          All Premiers point scorers:

          Taradale 29 (B Truesdale, N Sanft, L Maulolo, O Sapsford tries; Truesdale 3 con, pen)
          Hastings Rugby and Sports 15 (N Fomai, A Vuki tries; T Vaiusu pen, con).
          HT: Hastings 15-12.

          Napier Old Boys Marist 48 (J Nelson-Murray 2, D Sharplin 2, Z Donaldson, Z Gregory, L Edwards, L Moleilli tries; Edwards 4 con)
          Havelock North 38 (A Tuitavake 2, T Hape, J Paewai, T Lamborn tries; M Hill 5 con, pen).
          HT: 22-17.

          MAC 32 (P Latu 2, C Hokianga, H Waerea, P Faamoe tries; T Iosefo 2 con, pen)
          Tamatea 32 (J Harris 2, H Solomon, L McClutchie tries; McClutchie 3 con, 2 pens).
          HT: 20-17.

          Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 23 (K Te Amo, R Hubbard tries; Z Clarke 3 pens, 2 con)
          Clive 15 (J Kaifa 2, J Fuimaono tries).
          HT: 20-10.

          Napier Technical 43 (M Fox 3, M Braidwood, P Manuel, M Lealaisalanoa, J Faia tries; L Shaw 4 con)
          Central 21 (T Parsons 2, T Tayor tries; B Hardwidge 3 con).
          HT: Central 14-12.

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            #78

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12225562

            Does anyone know the reasoning behind the transfer of a couple of MAC players to Tech mentioned midway through this article? Surprisingly I would be a little disappointed to read this if my guys actively poached these players as I know just how hard it is for clubs to keep existing players without players up and leaving. Even harder to accept players leaving clubs that appear to be doing a lot of good work in the community and are working hard to improve things on the field.

            Please be careful in the wording of your replies please as sometimes things are best left unsaid.

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            • HigginsH Higgins

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12225562

              Does anyone know the reasoning behind the transfer of a couple of MAC players to Tech mentioned midway through this article? Surprisingly I would be a little disappointed to read this if my guys actively poached these players as I know just how hard it is for clubs to keep existing players without players up and leaving. Even harder to accept players leaving clubs that appear to be doing a lot of good work in the community and are working hard to improve things on the field.

              Please be careful in the wording of your replies please as sometimes things are best left unsaid.

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              @Higgins Sorry, I have no idea. I must admit that my eyes were stopping at this: "former North Harbour-based halfback-first five-eighth combination" when I first read that article. I was wondering whether these players were asked to come here to try getting a spot in the Magpies. But they didn't make the Magpies WTG, so I assume that's not the case.

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              • HigginsH Higgins

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12225562

                Does anyone know the reasoning behind the transfer of a couple of MAC players to Tech mentioned midway through this article? Surprisingly I would be a little disappointed to read this if my guys actively poached these players as I know just how hard it is for clubs to keep existing players without players up and leaving. Even harder to accept players leaving clubs that appear to be doing a lot of good work in the community and are working hard to improve things on the field.

                Please be careful in the wording of your replies please as sometimes things are best left unsaid.

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                @Higgins Did they transfer mid season? The HBRU shouldn't be letting that happen if that's the case.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @Higgins Did they transfer mid season? The HBRU shouldn't be letting that happen if that's the case.

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                  @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

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                    @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

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                    @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                    @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

                    I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                      @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

                      I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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                      @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

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                        @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

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                        @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                        @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

                        :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                          @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

                          I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

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                          @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

                          @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                          @Nepia I'm not against it if it is to prevent clubs from defaulting due to lack of players (if the initial club of these players has enough players). I don't know whether this is the case, though.

                          I think normally MAC would be more in danger of defaulting due to lack of players than Tech?

                          MAC did default 2 weeks ago

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                            I notice Penatana Smith who was playing for MAC was listed as playing for HRS in the Hawkes bay squad list,so maybe a few have gone.Possibly didn't along with the coach???

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                              @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

                              :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

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                              @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

                              @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                              @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

                              :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

                              That's why I am uncomfortable with this situation. Sure, my guys have not had the best of starts and are not looking all that competitive at the moment but you have to suck it up and take it like a man when that is the case. I hope we did not actively poach them mid season as that would sit very uneasy with me. Tech have had long periods when they have been less than competitive and may even have been out of the top grade when I first joined them back in the late 1970s and have had periods of poor times on and off since then. Hence I can feel empathy for clubs that are struggling (except of course if your club is the combined Napier High School Old Boys-Marist or Taradale).

                              Hell I even had to witness another club I am associated with winning by 80 points yesterday over a club that lost a number of top players that had used their gym and other facilites all through summer (and all at no cost to them) only to upsticks and depart for other clubs a week or so prior to the start of the first competition game (they also lost a further premier player who transferred to another club mid week as well).

                              https://www.facebook.com/WellingtonAxemen/photos/pb.272092836304357.-2207520000.1556420607./1152673548246277/?type=3&theater

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                                Club rugby is a bit worrying.

                                There were five defaults across all the grades on Saturday, and on top of that MAC withdrew from the Div 3 comp after the start, as did Havelock Nth from the Colts comp after the start.

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  @Nepia said in 2019 club rugby:

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 club rugby:

                                  @Nepia Don't know. That could depend on injuries.

                                  :face_with_tears_of_joy: Lets not BS it, the big city Napier club Tech are always a much stronger club than the perennially struggling Flaxmere based MAC.

                                  That's why I am uncomfortable with this situation. Sure, my guys have not had the best of starts and are not looking all that competitive at the moment but you have to suck it up and take it like a man when that is the case. I hope we did not actively poach them mid season as that would sit very uneasy with me. Tech have had long periods when they have been less than competitive and may even have been out of the top grade when I first joined them back in the late 1970s and have had periods of poor times on and off since then. Hence I can feel empathy for clubs that are struggling (except of course if your club is the combined Napier High School Old Boys-Marist or Taradale).

                                  Hell I even had to witness another club I am associated with winning by 80 points yesterday over a club that lost a number of top players that had used their gym and other facilites all through summer (and all at no cost to them) only to upsticks and depart for other clubs a week or so prior to the start of the first competition game (they also lost a further premier player who transferred to another club mid week as well).

                                  https://www.facebook.com/WellingtonAxemen/photos/pb.272092836304357.-2207520000.1556420607./1152673548246277/?type=3&theater

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                                  Tech Prems had some pretty dry years. I genuinely think the 2002-4 colts side would have given the Prems a run for their money.

                                  That was prior to our homegrown talent coming of age like Ash Dixon, that prop who injured his neck, Leighton Price and Josh Keys.

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                                    Tech Prems had some pretty dry years. I genuinely think the 2002-4 colts side would have given the Prems a run for their money.

                                    That was prior to our homegrown talent coming of age like Ash Dixon, that prop who injured his neck, Leighton Price and Josh Keys.

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                                    @Magpie_in_aus is 🤣

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                                      @Magpie_in_aus is 🤣

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                                      @Nepia I forgot Hugh Reed....

                                      I guess the actual home grown ones actually made higher honours like Bucky and Zac

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                                        Snippets from HBT's club rugby write-up:

                                        Busy No 8 Iakopo Mapu was another to shine in the Taradale pack, which had no passengers and was more physical than the Hastings engine room. Halfback Humphrey Sheild was again outstanding and second five-eighth Nathan Ramsay and substitute winger Ollie Sapsford were other valuable contributors in the hosts' backline.
                                        

                                        I have noticed that Mapu, Sheild and Sapsford regularly feature as stand-outs in the club rugby write-ups. I have seen Sheild play school rugby, but can't say I've ever seen Mapu and Sapsford.

                                        ... who benefited from some classy direction from Magpie Lincoln McClutchie in both the fullback and first five-eighth positions after spending time as injury cover at the Highlanders ...
                                        

                                        I haven't seen anything on social mediat that suggests he's back in Dunedin, despite the Gatland's foot injury against the Sunwolves. Doesn't mean he isn't there, of course.

                                        ... Central had a good pack with Geoff Cridge and Tom and Ben Parsons playing," Texans manager Cyril Whitburn said.
                                        
                                        Magpies props Mark Braidwood and Tim Farrell and in-form lock Elijah Martin provided plenty of grunt for the hosts' pack ...
                                        

                                        Glad to see Cridge and Farrell are still in one piece and playing. May it last!

                                        Magpies loosie Josh Kaifa was dynamic at No 8 in his first full game of the season for Tremains Andrew Clark Clive. 
                                        

                                        There he is!

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                                          Priorities? 🤔

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12227593

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