AB squad for the Rugby Championship

[Tim]

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

[gt12]

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.

[antipodean]

@gt12 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.

What irritates me about that is it's an easy thing to fix. A mate of mine that studied in Dunedin told me he watched Anton practice throwing on a basketball court and every throw of the rugby ball got nothing but net. This during a time when our lineout was pants. There's no excuse for not being able to throw accurately and consistently.

[Bones]

@antipodean said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@gt12 said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Coltman is so frustrating, he's great around the field, but couldn't hit a bull's ass with a barn shovel when he is throwing to the line out.

What irritates me about that is it's an easy thing to fix. A mate of mine that studied in Dunedin told me he watched Anton practice throwing on a basketball court and every throw of the rugby ball got nothing but net. This during a time when our lineout was pants. There's no excuse for not being able to throw accurately and consistently.

Hmmm....doesn't that point to it being not so easy to fix?

[Bovidae]

Three parts to the lineout though (jumper, lifters and thrower) so it is not always the hookers fault for an over-throw/under-throw. Not straight definitely on them.

[Billy Tell]

@Wurzel said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Revised squad named at 10am

Only thing that would make it interesting would be if the 5 names read out are

Read, B. Smith, Coles, Franks, SBW

"Time to inject youth"

[Canes4life]

@Tim no way. Harris is even worse.

[Tim]

@Canes4life I find that hard to believe. Especially compared to Aumua.

[akan004]

I think Coles is the best lineout thrower in the world and still our first choice hooker, Taylor is ok but he tends to have a couple of bad throws per game and the rest are terrible. Wouldn't want either Coles or Taylor to get injured.

[nzzp]

@Billy-Tell said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

"Time to inject youth"

Hansen is ruthless. I think the only person there who may get a bit of leniency is Reado - and I think they will still back him to peak for a few games in Sept/Oct.

Last RWC they left Dagg at home when he'd been excellent, and got rid of Jane prior to that ( I think). I have no concerns about their ability to drop players they don't think are up to it.

finally, we don't know the training load these players are under. There's an argument that we've been flogged in trianing, and looking to taper for the Cup -- that all of our sluggish, shitty losses are due to smashing the players during the week. I don't know if I see it,but it's a theory

[pukunui]

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Has Aumua even played?

Harris is going to have to rely on something else if he is to get back in because his throwing is just as bad as the others.

[Stargazer]

@pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Has Aumua even played?

No, he and Josh Ioane haven't had any game time.

Edited to add: Neither has Tu'inukuafe, but he's not an unknown at test level.

[Billy Tell]

@Stargazer said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@pukunui said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

@Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

Any chance Nathan Harris will come back in? Neither of Aumua or Coltman have thrown competently.

Has Aumua even played?

No, he and Josh Ioane haven't had any game time.

Edited to add: Neither has Tu'inukuafe, but he's not an unknown at test level.

Basically he’s a known known whereas the others are known unknowns.

[Stargazer]

All Blacks squad for the Bledisloe Cup:

Forwards
Hookers: Dane Coles, Liam Coltman and Codie Taylor.
Props: Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Joe Moody, Atu Moli, Angus Ta'avao and Ofa Tuungafasi.
Locks: Scott Barrett, Jackson Hemopo, Patrick Tuipulotu and Samuel Whitelock.
Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Vaea Fifita, Luke Jacobson, Kieran Read, Ardie Savea and Matt Todd.

Backs
Halfbacks: TJ Perenara, Aaron Smith and Brad Weber.
First five-eighths: Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo'unga.
Midfielders: Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape, Anton Lienert-Brown and Sonny Bill Williams.
Utility backs: Braydon Ennor and Jordie Barrett.
Outside backs: George Bridge, Rieko Ioane, Sevu Reece and Ben Smith.

Hansen further added that first five-eighth Josh Ioane had also been invited to assemble with the squad to continue his development. Meanwhile, Nepo Laulala and Sonny Bill Williams will both play for Counties Manukau in a pre-Mitre 10 Cup season game on Saturday. Laulala will then join the squad in Perth, while Williams will stay and play Counties Manukau's Mitre 10 Cup season opener on Saturday August 10, before joining the squad in Auckland for the second Bledisloe Cup Test week.

http://www.allblacks.com/News/34477/all-blacks-squad-named-for-bledisloe-cup-tests

[Duluth]

No Frizell? That's a surprise

[Stargazer]

So, missing out are:
Aumua, Tu’inukuafe, Frizell, Papali'i, Josh Ioane

To return for RWC: Crotty and - hopefully - Retallick

They kept Fifita ...

[Toddy]

Fifita leads a charmed career.

Jacobson has leapfrogged Dalton?

Three players who are 7s points to some interesting combos down the track.

[Bovidae]

Surely Karl needs time on the field for NH to prove his fitness.

Papalii wasn't given a chance unlike Fifita. :angry_face:

Let's see who plays in Perth.

[KiwiMurph]

I'm glad Jacobson is there.

[Chris]

I seem to be missing something with Fifita,I must be falling asleep during games and missing all the great work he is getting through to keep him in the AB squad.