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AB squad for the Rugby Championship

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    Big Boys pants on for the Perth test, apparently, some powder to be brought out of storage - starting XV wise.

    *Hansen indicated we would be a lot wiser post-Saturday night in Perth.

    "We"ll look to start building the various combinations we want and probably put the strongest sides together we can over the next couple of weeks.

    "We know the more games we have, the more time we spend together, we're going to improve. How much we'll just have to wait and see."*

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/114731026/time-to-get-serious-as-all-blacks-pledge-to-step-it-up-against-the-wallabies.html

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      I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

      I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

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        The problem with this talk, just to add to the confusion

        In recent times we usually look more comfortable against the wallabies, so it will be difficult to know how much to read into a better performance

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          The problem with this talk, just to add to the confusion

          In recent times we usually look more comfortable against the wallabies, so it will be difficult to know how much to read into a better performance

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          @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

          The problem with this talk, just to add to the confusion

          In recent times we usually look more comfortable against the wallabies, so it will be difficult to know how much to read into a better performance

          Without any knowledge of what it’s like for the players and team in the lead up to a Wallabies test, I do get the sense that we lift because we are playing to retain the Bledisloe and that means something to players, NZ rugby, fans.

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            I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

            I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

            I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now.

            cos we must be awesome all the time, every time, all the time, every day, all the time

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              The Stuff article speculates Read and Savea might share the 6 and 8 duties.

              Can anyone explain why Cane is not seen as the 6 rather than Savea?

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                News Flash: SBW played the full 80 mins in Katikati today so still in one piece.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  News Flash: SBW played the full 80 mins in Katikati today so still in one piece.

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                  @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                  News Flash: SBW played the full 80 mins in Katikati today so still in one piece.

                  Not necessarily one piece, could've played through a 'niggle' that now means x weeks on the sidelines...

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    The Stuff article speculates Read and Savea might share the 6 and 8 duties.

                    Can anyone explain why Cane is not seen as the 6 rather than Savea?

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                    @Frank said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                    Can anyone explain why Cane is not seen as the 6 rather than Savea?

                    It depends on what they want from their no.6. Cane hasn't played much at 6, but I don't think Ardie has either.

                    At the backend of the Chiefs season, Cane and Boshier played together but from memory Cane still played as the traditional openside rather than left and right flankers.

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                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12255396

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                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12255396

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                        @Tim Once again 'SBW Impressive' = 'SBW plays rugby and doesn't injure himself'

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                          I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

                          I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                          I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

                          I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

                          Looking forward to the big show I suppose. We really haven't been very good for a while though - hence the angst.

                          Form, selections and combinations aren't great.

                          You may well be right that it is all good and our powder is drier than a Nuns (can't say it 'cause Google censorship Nazis))

                          The Rieko thread was nonsense to start with, and I think Read will stand up when the time comes.

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                            The problem with this talk, just to add to the confusion

                            In recent times we usually look more comfortable against the wallabies, so it will be difficult to know how much to read into a better performance

                            Without any knowledge of what it’s like for the players and team in the lead up to a Wallabies test, I do get the sense that we lift because we are playing to retain the Bledisloe and that means something to players, NZ rugby, fans.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                            The problem with this talk, just to add to the confusion

                            In recent times we usually look more comfortable against the wallabies, so it will be difficult to know how much to read into a better performance

                            Without any knowledge of what it’s like for the players and team in the lead up to a Wallabies test, I do get the sense that we lift because we are playing to retain the Bledisloe and that means something to players, NZ rugby, fans.

                            Yep, they have made it clear the bledisloe is the second most important trophy and they do lift to secure that,

                            But there is the other talking point where the wallabies play a game style we are more comfortable and used to, their defence in particular

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                              @Tim Once again 'SBW Impressive' = 'SBW plays rugby and doesn't injure himself'

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                              @Machpants but that is impressive isn't it?

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                                I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

                                I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                I don’t get why so many are worried about form right now. Yes there are test matches to play, but the season has only just started and some players are only just building their workload and once they have that up they can launch from there.

                                I don’t doubt there are selection questions that from the armchair remain a mystery, but if we are going through those that have been criticised as “not at their best”, for example Ioane and Read, I actually think they will come right.

                                Because the other teams are in the same boat. It's not like they're all settled and peaking now.

                                Last year we lost the matching game to the Boks, but failed to lift much after that. Why is this year different?

                                Read, meanwhile has come right. His current form is the form he was in all last year too. You're not hoping he'll get back to his form, you're trusting he'll somehow be able to turn back the clock four years.

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                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12255396

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                                  @Tim said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12255396

                                  Looks even more massive in Counties strip. What's the latest on Crotty?

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                                    @Machpants but that is impressive isn't it?

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                                    @taniwharugby said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                    @Machpants but that is impressive isn't it?

                                    I think the word is surprising, rather than impressive

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                                      Perry has been training/re-habbing with the squad since it was named earlier this month.

                                      Selectors clearly see a role for him seeing as they're keeping him as close to the squad as possible.

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                                      @Wurzel said in AB squad for the Rugby Championship:

                                      Perry has been training/re-habbing with the squad since it was named earlier this month.

                                      Selectors clearly see a role for him seeing as they're keeping him as close to the squad as possible.

                                      I wonder if this one also came from the top?

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