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  • WingerW Winger

    40 and then 60 minutes playing time. So for the first game they can't really start. So Proctor will likely start at center with Aso, Lam and Goosen making up the back three.

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hurricanes-welcome-back-world-cup-stars-for-season-opening-super-rugby-tour

    The Hurricanes have named a squad of 27 players to travel to South Africa and Argentina for the start of the 2020 Super Rugby campaign.

    Headlining the abbreviated squad to take on the Stormers in Cape Town and Jaguares in Buenos Aires over the next fortnight are All Blacks stars TJ Perenara and Jordie Barrett.

    Neither player has featured throughout pre-season as part of their extended break following last year’s World Cup in Japan.

    The duo – who were present at Onewa Domain for the Hurricanes’ 29-28 defeat to the Blues in Auckland on Friday – will be confined to just 40 and then 60 minutes of game time in the season’s opening two matches as part of the All Blacks’ rest program.

    Their returns will nevertheless be welcomed by head coach Jason Holland, whose side will need Perenara’s and Barrett’s talents and experience after the Wellingtonians lost both of their pre-season fixtures to the Blues and Crusaders.

    Perenara’s fellow co-captain Dane Coles hasn’t travelled with the squad, with hopes he’ll play in the round three clash against the Sharks at Sky Stadium on February 15.

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    @Winger Tiatia will start at 15 if Barrett doesn’t considering he’s started there in both preseason games. Lam isn’t a fullback. Umaga Jensen / Aso will probably get first dibs on the 13 jersey based on the pecking order from last year.

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      @Winger Tiatia will start at 15 if Barrett doesn’t considering he’s started there in both preseason games. Lam isn’t a fullback. Umaga Jensen / Aso will probably get first dibs on the 13 jersey based on the pecking order from last year.

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      @Canes4life Yep, that's what I expect, too. Lam at fullback won't happen. Hopefully Aso at 13, with Goosen outside him.

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        Only travelling with five loose forwards, obviously confident of no injuries occurring.

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          @Winger Tiatia will start at 15 if Barrett doesn’t considering he’s started there in both preseason games. Lam isn’t a fullback. Umaga Jensen / Aso will probably get first dibs on the 13 jersey based on the pecking order from last year.

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          @Canes4life

          Ive seen both Goosen and Lam play FB for Wellington. Both are better than Tiatia by some distance. And Aso's not a center. But I suspect you may be right. Reflecting the limited coaching at the Canes

          Some other points

          Barrett is listed at 2nd 5 on the website
          Players are still missing

          FFS. If they can't get a simple thing like this completed to a high standard less than a week before kickoff. What else is being done poorly. Maybe player management = lots of injuries year after year

          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/squad/current-squad/

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            @Canes4life

            Ive seen both Goosen and Lam play FB for Wellington. Both are better than Tiatia by some distance. And Aso's not a center. But I suspect you may be right. Reflecting the limited coaching at the Canes

            Some other points

            Barrett is listed at 2nd 5 on the website
            Players are still missing

            FFS. If they can't get a simple thing like this completed to a high standard less than a week before kickoff. What else is being done poorly. Maybe player management = lots of injuries year after year

            https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/squad/current-squad/

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            @Winger you are right they have played there for Wellington but I wouldn’t consider them Super level fullbacks by any stretch. Billy Proctor also spent a lot of time there for Wellington this year so they may even chuck the jersey to him.

            I’m thinking they will want to start the season strongly so I’m actually picking Barrett to start there anyway. Don’t forget the Laumape/Aso combo lit up the tournament a few years ago when they had a long run together in the centres. On offence they are sublime, it’s the defensive side of the ball that they will need to improve dramatically.

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              In the Blues v Chiefs thread, Fletcher Smith is called a journey man. To stay with the literal meaning of the word (although - on the Fern - it's more often than not used as a word for players that posters don't rate, and therefore subjective), below is an article that sheds some light on why/how he ended up with the Canes.

              A lot of Fletcher Smith's journeying is due to his parents moving, attending school and uni. And, apparently, Jason Holland.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/108215252/its-been-a-long-and-winding-road-for-new-hurricanes-firstfive-fletcher-smith

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                Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

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                  Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                  kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

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                  @mikey07 That's a shame. I rate the guy very highly and he was Samoa's best at the RWC.

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                    Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                    kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

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                    @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                    Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                    kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

                    That bad news reopens a spot for the much touted seven foot three South African lock that we have been awaiting.

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119085380/super-rugby-heres-why-you-should-be-optimistic-about-the-hurricanes-this-season

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Winger said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        Full Hurricanes squad to face the Blues:
                        

                        15 Chase Tiatia
                        14 Wes Goosen
                        13 Billy Proctor
                        12 Ngani Laumpehe
                        11 Lam
                        10 Fletcher Smith
                        9 Jonathan Taumateine
                        8 Gareth Evans
                        7 Du’Plessis Kirifi
                        5 James Blackwell
                        4 Scott Scrafton
                        3 Tyrel Lomax
                        2 Ricky Riccitelli
                        1 Fraser Armstrong

                        Not the most powerful side the Canes have ever put out.
                        Tiatia I don't rate. Just not really up to this level. But Im sure Aso will come in next week. And maybe its too early for Proctor. And where's Barrett. I wouldn't mind seeing him at 2nd 5 with Ngani Laumape at centre. Lam at FB with Goosen and Aso on the wings.

                        Blackwell is almost a joke selection. Poor ball skill and far too short (1.90) I thought he was a Plumtree selection. I just hope these current selectors don't continue this silliness

                        and Prinsep. 👎 What do they see in him. The Canes need more stars not adequate plodders

                        None of the ABs are playing preseason games. They have returned for training but are not allowed to play, yet. That applies to ABs at all SR franchises.

                        Also, selections in preseason games are usually not an indication of who is going to play - and where - during the season.

                        Lam at fullback is a ridiculous idea and if he plays like he did last week, he shouldn't even make the squad. He did absolutely nothing to deserve a spot in the 23.

                        Unfortunately, we won't be able to watch this game.

                        Have you ever seen Lam play FB? (I have and he was surprising good there)

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                        @Winger as in not totally shit? He's not a FB - can fade in and out and I'd worry about his D. While Tiatia is raw he's shown enough to get a start imo. Next cab would be Jordie? Maybe Marshall?

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                        • ToddyT Toddy

                          Strong All Blacks core?? They named two reserve All Blacks and a couple of fringe players.

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                          @Toddy said in Hurricanes 2020:

                          Strong All Blacks core?? They named two reserve All Blacks and a couple of fringe players.

                          Not to mention JGB and a guy who did not even have a contract a couple of weeks ago, the mind immediately springs back to Sveu Reece. The latter (Mafileo) may turn out to be a better prop than the five Super Rugby selection panels initially suspected, only time will tell there I guess.

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                            Hurricanes Away jersey

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                            adidas has today unveiled the alternate jerseys for all five New Zealand Investec Super Rugby sides for the highly anticipated 2020 season.
                            From material to design, the jerseys have been crafted to reflect and honour the natural environments of each team.
                            
                            All 5 jerseys are part of the new adidas PRIMEBLUE range – made with Parley Ocean Plastic, which is recycled plastic waste intercepted from beaches and coastal communities before it reaches the oceans.From material to design, the jerseys have been crafted to reflect and honour the natural environments of each team. All 5 jerseys are part of the new adidas PRIMEBLUE range – made with Parley Ocean Plastic, which is recycled plastic waste intercepted from beaches and coastal communities before it reaches the oceans.
                            
                            As part of its ongoing mission to end plastic waste, adidas has committed to shift entirely to recycled polyester by 2024.
                            
                            To inspire rugby fans to join the movement, the designs of each teams alternate jersey features aquatic-style patterns and nods to the teams’ local environments: 
                            
                            • The Hurricanes jersey features a hand drawn graphic which references the abundant wind resources in the area including 390 wind turbines with water born graphics. 
                            

                            https://www.allblacks.com/news/adidas-unveils-investec-super-rugby-away-jerseys/

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                              Hurricanes Away jersey

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                              e29874b8-0d98-450a-a1af-a0d98a81a6fe-image.png

                              adidas has today unveiled the alternate jerseys for all five New Zealand Investec Super Rugby sides for the highly anticipated 2020 season.
                              From material to design, the jerseys have been crafted to reflect and honour the natural environments of each team.
                              
                              All 5 jerseys are part of the new adidas PRIMEBLUE range – made with Parley Ocean Plastic, which is recycled plastic waste intercepted from beaches and coastal communities before it reaches the oceans.From material to design, the jerseys have been crafted to reflect and honour the natural environments of each team. All 5 jerseys are part of the new adidas PRIMEBLUE range – made with Parley Ocean Plastic, which is recycled plastic waste intercepted from beaches and coastal communities before it reaches the oceans.
                              
                              As part of its ongoing mission to end plastic waste, adidas has committed to shift entirely to recycled polyester by 2024.
                              
                              To inspire rugby fans to join the movement, the designs of each teams alternate jersey features aquatic-style patterns and nods to the teams’ local environments: 
                              
                              • The Hurricanes jersey features a hand drawn graphic which references the abundant wind resources in the area including 390 wind turbines with water born graphics. 
                              

                              https://www.allblacks.com/news/adidas-unveils-investec-super-rugby-away-jerseys/

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                              Meh, pretty ugly imo. And plain!

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                                Matches their forward pack

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                                  Meh, pretty ugly imo. And plain!

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                                  @Paekakboyz Yeah, I don't like any of the away jerseys. I know the colours fit the water/ocean/natural environment theme, but they look boring. I don't mind the pattern.

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                                  • M mikey07

                                    Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                                    kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

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                                    @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                    Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                                    kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

                                    More info about Kane Le'aupepe's injury:

                                    https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/sport/55085

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                                      @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      Just read in an article on stuff that mentioned
                                      kane leaupepe has a long term injury the article didn’t specify what it was and google isn’t saying anything...looks like Blackwell’s going to be a starter for the long term.

                                      More info about Kane Le'aupepe's injury:

                                      https://www.samoaobserver.ws/category/sport/55085

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                                      @Stargazer jeez that’s a shame I was expecting a big year from him

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                                        In the Blues v Chiefs thread, Fletcher Smith is called a journey man. To stay with the literal meaning of the word (although - on the Fern - it's more often than not used as a word for players that posters don't rate, and therefore subjective), below is an article that sheds some light on why/how he ended up with the Canes.

                                        A lot of Fletcher Smith's journeying is due to his parents moving, attending school and uni. And, apparently, Jason Holland.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/108215252/its-been-a-long-and-winding-road-for-new-hurricanes-firstfive-fletcher-smith

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                                        @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                        In the Blues v Chiefs thread, Fletcher Smith is called a journey man. To stay with the literal meaning of the word (although - on the Fern - it's more often than not used as a word for players that posters don't rate, and therefore subjective), below is an article that sheds some light on why/how he ended up with the Canes.

                                        A lot of Fletcher Smith's journeying is due to his parents moving, attending school and uni. And, apparently, Jason Holland.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/108215252/its-been-a-long-and-winding-road-for-new-hurricanes-firstfive-fletcher-smith

                                        Being one to never miss an opportunity to be pedantic ...

                                        ... the actual meaning of the word "journeyman" is a person who is still learning their trade. It was the stage between Apprentice and Master.

                                        It has nothing to do with travel.

                                        So describing someone who is of average ability as a journeyman (not a journey man) is pretty close to the proper useof the word.

                                        Primary school "learnings".

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                                          Write-up of the Hurricanes Hunters v Crusaders Development XV game (Sat 15 Feb 2020)

                                          https://clubrugby.nz/wp/2020/02/15/hurricanes-hunters-humble-crusaders/

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