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Hurricanes 2020

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  • canefanC canefan

    Reports coming through that BB will sign a 4 year deal to play for the Blues. Rumours still suggest JB will take his talents to the Saders next season. Canes about to head into rebuild mode

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    @canefan classic Hurricanes, we will finally have a decent pack next year but now we don't have the backs.

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      How long is TJ signed for?

      Canes should ask TJ who he wants outside him.

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        Why the exodus of some of your top guys?

        I understand BB wanting to move to Auckland due to the missus but why JB to Canterbury (Apart from wanting to be with the worlds best provincial rugby team)

        Actually. I think I have answered my own question

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Not as big a loss as when Conrad and Ma'a left IMHO.

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          @sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:

          Not as big a loss as when Conrad and Ma'a left IMHO.

          FOH

          It's alot easier to replace a centre than a 1st five especially in a team that depend on 5-6 star players to be successful & generally lacks quality across their squad

          Saying that Canes will have a much better squad in 2020 but they won't sniff beating the Crusaders or Jaguares in all likelihood

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            @sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:

            Not as big a loss as when Conrad and Ma'a left IMHO.

            FOH

            It's alot easier to replace a centre than a 1st five especially in a team that depend on 5-6 star players to be successful & generally lacks quality across their squad

            Saying that Canes will have a much better squad in 2020 but they won't sniff beating the Crusaders or Jaguares in all likelihood

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            @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

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              If we lose Jordie I hope we get Thomas Umaga Jensen from the Highlanders. A future centre pairing of him and his twin bro could be fairly menacing.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

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                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

                Speaking of that, is it the same system for next year or are there changes?

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                  @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                  @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

                  Speaking of that, is it the same system for next year or are there changes?

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                  @Hooroo one more year of Conferences and Sunwolves

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                    @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

                    Speaking of that, is it the same system for next year or are there changes?

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                    @Hooroo same stupid system next year. Doesn't kick in until 2021.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

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                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                      @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

                      Harsh reality is the Canes played Jaguares and Crusaders four times this season & lost all four games

                      In three of those games the Canes got the crap beaten out of them

                      This year has been one of the stronger seasons of SR in recent times

                      Before that the comp has crap teams like Cheetahs Kings Force allow teams to accumulate easy wins i.e. Lions

                      Moreover the Conference system is a pain in the arse for Jaguares
                      They have to play more games in SA where they've struggled since day 1

                      Jaguares prefer playing AUS & NZ teams with their weaker packs plus they tour well They've won their last 6 games in AUS and 3 out of 4 in NZ
                      That's why i'm looking forward to 2021 when the format will suit them

                      I believe the Higlanders have a terrible recent record in SA to give an example The only NZ sides who tour well which in NZ are Crusaders & Canes

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                        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                        @Jaguares4real lol the only reason the Jaguares made the final was because of the conference system, Crusaders and Hurricanes are clearly the two best teams and have been for the last four years.

                        Harsh reality is the Canes played Jaguares and Crusaders four times this season & lost all four games

                        In three of those games the Canes got the crap beaten out of them

                        This year has been one of the stronger seasons of SR in recent times

                        Before that the comp has crap teams like Cheetahs Kings Force allow teams to accumulate easy wins i.e. Lions

                        Moreover the Conference system is a pain in the arse for Jaguares
                        They have to play more games in SA where they've struggled since day 1

                        Jaguares prefer playing AUS & NZ teams with their weaker packs plus they tour well They've won their last 6 games in AUS and 3 out of 4 in NZ
                        That's why i'm looking forward to 2021 when the format will suit them

                        I believe the Higlanders have a terrible recent record in SA to give an example The only NZ sides who tour well which in NZ are Crusaders & Canes

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                        @Jaguares4real read into that what you like but we didn't have Beaudy etc when the Jaguares came to town. If the Canes and Jaguares would have met in a Semi, the Canes would have been heavy favourites.

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                          https://www.hurricanes.co.nz/news/article/hurricanes-disappointed-to-lose-beauden-barrett/?fbclid=IwAR3fVU8LV50xryuf-iTNclMaaA5M0gPlzzcVCmHtl8N_vXsXxwgNvP4Ywws

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Jaguares4real read into that what you like but we didn't have Beaudy etc when the Jaguares came to town. If the Canes and Jaguares would have met in a Semi, the Canes would have been heavy favourites.

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                            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                            @Jaguares4real read into that what you like but we didn't have Beaudy etc when the Jaguares came to town. If the Canes and Jaguares would have met in a Semi, the Canes would have been heavy favourites.

                            Beady would have made little difference Heck 2005 Dan Carter wouldn't have saved the Canes Jaguares pack dominated the Canes period

                            I'd also fancy Jaguares to definitely beat the Canes in Buenos Aires
                            Brumbies walked into a buzz saw and got carved up

                            They would also have a good chance of winning again in the Cake Tin
                            Jaguares were 1st non NZ team to win in Wellington since 2015 πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€

                            Canes don't have a dominant scrum, nor is their line out particularly flash

                            Jaguares can handle NZ packs Crusaders are the one exception & that's largely because of their scrum

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                              @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                              @Jaguares4real read into that what you like but we didn't have Beaudy etc when the Jaguares came to town. If the Canes and Jaguares would have met in a Semi, the Canes would have been heavy favourites.

                              Beady would have made little difference Heck 2005 Dan Carter wouldn't have saved the Canes Jaguares pack dominated the Canes period

                              I'd also fancy Jaguares to definitely beat the Canes in Buenos Aires
                              Brumbies walked into a buzz saw and got carved up

                              They would also have a good chance of winning again in the Cake Tin
                              Jaguares were 1st non NZ team to win in Wellington since 2015 πŸ‘€ πŸ‘€

                              Canes don't have a dominant scrum, nor is their line out particularly flash

                              Jaguares can handle NZ packs Crusaders are the one exception & that's largely because of their scrum

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                              @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                              Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

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                                @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

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                                @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

                                Pablo Matera is off to France. He'll be a huge blow, captain and best player.

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                                  @sparky said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                  Not as big a loss as when Conrad and Ma'a left IMHO.

                                  FOH

                                  It's alot easier to replace a centre than a 1st five especially in a team that depend on 5-6 star players to be successful & generally lacks quality across their squad

                                  Saying that Canes will have a much better squad in 2020 but they won't sniff beating the Crusaders or Jaguares in all likelihood

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                                  @Jaguares4real any excuse to blow smoke up the Jaguares ass.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    The flow-on effect from BB being available to play in 2020 is that one of Black or Perofeta might be available to the Canes.

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                                    @Bovidae So who are the first fives available to the Canes? Perofeta, Black, Cameron?

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                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                      Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

                                      Pablo Matera is off to France. He'll be a huge blow, captain and best player.

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                                      @Cyclops said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                      @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                      Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

                                      Pablo Matera is off to France. He'll be a huge blow, captain and best player.

                                      bugger, maybe my favourite player at the moment

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                                        @Bovidae So who are the first fives available to the Canes? Perofeta, Black, Cameron?

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                                        I think all the Blues guys have contracts. With Barrett arriving halfway through next year they won't want to release any without signing another option

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                                        • SammyCS SammyC

                                          @Cyclops said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                          Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

                                          Pablo Matera is off to France. He'll be a huge blow, captain and best player.

                                          bugger, maybe my favourite player at the moment

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                                          @SammyC said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Cyclops said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2020:

                                          @Jaguares4real we will see next year when Lomax comes in. The Canes are losing no one in their forward pack and will only be stronger next year with our young guys being that much more experienced.

                                          Are the Jaguares losing anyone of note?

                                          Pablo Matera is off to France. He'll be a huge blow, captain and best player.

                                          bugger, maybe my favourite player at the moment

                                          Matera has been the best blindside flanker in world rugby last 2 years and there's no one close to his level TBH

                                          Matera will be a significant loss but Jaguares would manage just fine

                                          There're numerous options in Backrow: youngsters who've played for U20 Pumitas side - couple of absolute units in the backrow to select

                                          Kramer will step up as will Lezana Bruni is a solid player

                                          Gorrisson is another guy who's decent as well but he's more of a jackeller

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