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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

    There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

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    @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

    There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

    Many of best 11s were left footed. Two lefties which come to mnd are Jonah and Piutau.

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    • F Frank

      Reece is bloody lucky.

      • no utility value
      • not particularly good defense
      • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
      • outside the AB center at Super rugby level
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      @Frank said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      Reece is bloody lucky.

      • no utility value
      • not particularly good defense
      • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
      • outside the AB center at Super rugby level

      They are looking for a bit of NMS X-factor.

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      • M Machpants

        Jeez stop feeding the trolls, it's making my ignore listing a bit pointless

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        @Machpants said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        Jeez stop feeding the trolls, it's making my ignore listing a bit pointless

        I had no idea this was an option! Of course you won't see this post...

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        • P pakman

          @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @cgrant said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          Good test for Atu Moli against Juan Figallo. If he holds his own in the set scrums and shows what he can do in the loose, he'll be on the plane to Japan.

          The Jags scrum has been ordinary in the games I watched (I didn't see the final so can't comment on that). In the two games the Chiefs played against them the Chiefs had an obvious advantage. We will find out whether the addition of Figallo makes a huge difference to the Pumas' scrum.

          Figallo is a big step up, but Argies best LHs are in Europe.

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          @pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @cgrant said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          Good test for Atu Moli against Juan Figallo. If he holds his own in the set scrums and shows what he can do in the loose, he'll be on the plane to Japan.

          The Jags scrum has been ordinary in the games I watched (I didn't see the final so can't comment on that). In the two games the Chiefs played against them the Chiefs had an obvious advantage. We will find out whether the addition of Figallo makes a huge difference to the Pumas' scrum.

          Figallo is a big step up, but Argies best LHs are in Europe.

          Who are these Europe based Puma looseheads?

          Only guy I can think of is Facundo Gigena- Leicester Tigers who is only starting to establish himself in 1st team squad

          He's learning from good players over there Time will tell where his career goes

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            @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

            @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

            Try Again Bones

            You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

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            @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

            @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

            @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

            Try Again Bones

            You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

            He’s not the only one

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              Re the preferred wing thing I agree that it just comes down to whether you feel you can be effective based on what comes naturally.
              Opposite to some above, if I played wing I much preferred the left (not surprising to some 😉 ) despite being right side strong simply because I liked to try and gas the defender on the outside so stepping off the right provided the initial burst.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                @pukunui said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                No Bridge? Dry powder.

                Along with the Akira powder which still hasn’t even left the shop.

                Playing Jordie at 11 instead of his rightful position of 12 is also a very shrewd ploy to keep the powder dry.

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                @No-Quarter said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @pukunui said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                No Bridge? Dry powder.

                Along with the Akira powder which still hasn’t even left the shop.

                Playing Jordie at 11 instead of his rightful position of 12 is also a very shrewd ploy to keep the powder dry.

                I think that is more a case of drilling exploration holes to try and discover some powder.

                Can’t really comment on wing but i always had a preference for packing down in scrums on the left side of my other lock. So my right arm was around them. Im right handed so probably felt like a more secure bind.
                Always prefered the wind coming right to left while bowling in cricket too. That’s because i mainly bowl outswing. I think this was largely a mental thing though. Unless it was a strong wind.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                  Try Again Bones

                  You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                  He’s not the only one

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                  @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                  Try Again Bones

                  You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                  He’s not the only one

                  👀 👀

                  Okay @MN5

                  Help us out oh wise one.....

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                    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                    Try Again Bones

                    You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                    He’s not the only one

                    👀 👀

                    Okay @MN5

                    Help us out oh wise one.....

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                    #165

                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                    @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                    Try Again Bones

                    You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                    He’s not the only one

                    👀 👀

                    Okay @MN5

                    Help us out oh wise one.....

                    Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

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                    • UniteU Unite

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                      Try Again Bones

                      You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                      He’s not the only one

                      👀 👀

                      Okay @MN5

                      Help us out oh wise one.....

                      Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

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                      @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                      @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                      Try Again Bones

                      You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                      He’s not the only one

                      👀 👀

                      Okay @MN5

                      Help us out oh wise one.....

                      Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

                      I had to look it up, too.

                      From Dictionary . com:

                      What does 👀 mean?

                      The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

                      From emojipedia:

                      👀 Eyes

                      A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

                      Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

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                        Crucial
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                        #167

                        Pervy eyes it is then!
                        Should have some good uses in the hawt thread.

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                        • E E African Troll

                          @pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @cgrant said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          Good test for Atu Moli against Juan Figallo. If he holds his own in the set scrums and shows what he can do in the loose, he'll be on the plane to Japan.

                          The Jags scrum has been ordinary in the games I watched (I didn't see the final so can't comment on that). In the two games the Chiefs played against them the Chiefs had an obvious advantage. We will find out whether the addition of Figallo makes a huge difference to the Pumas' scrum.

                          Figallo is a big step up, but Argies best LHs are in Europe.

                          Who are these Europe based Puma looseheads?

                          Only guy I can think of is Facundo Gigena- Leicester Tigers who is only starting to establish himself in 1st team squad

                          He's learning from good players over there Time will tell where his career goes

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                          @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @pakman said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          @cgrant said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          Good test for Atu Moli against Juan Figallo. If he holds his own in the set scrums and shows what he can do in the loose, he'll be on the plane to Japan.

                          The Jags scrum has been ordinary in the games I watched (I didn't see the final so can't comment on that). In the two games the Chiefs played against them the Chiefs had an obvious advantage. We will find out whether the addition of Figallo makes a huge difference to the Pumas' scrum.

                          Figallo is a big step up, but Argies best LHs are in Europe.

                          Who are these Europe based Puma looseheads?

                          Only guy I can think of is Facundo Gigena- Leicester Tigers who is only starting to establish himself in 1st team squad

                          He's learning from good players over there Time will tell where his career goes

                          Lucas Noguera...

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                          • E E African Troll

                            @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                            Try Again Bones

                            You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                            He’s not the only one

                            👀 👀

                            Okay @MN5

                            Help us out oh wise one.....

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                            @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                            Try Again Bones

                            You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                            He’s not the only one

                            👀 👀

                            Okay @MN5

                            Help us out oh wise one.....

                            He can't. He's ignoring you.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                              Try Again Bones

                              You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                              He’s not the only one

                              👀 👀

                              Okay @MN5

                              Help us out oh wise one.....

                              Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

                              I had to look it up, too.

                              From Dictionary . com:

                              What does 👀 mean?

                              The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

                              From emojipedia:

                              👀 Eyes

                              A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

                              Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

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                              @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Unite said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                              Try Again Bones

                              You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                              He’s not the only one

                              👀 👀

                              Okay @MN5

                              Help us out oh wise one.....

                              Can I just say, I am still really unclear what the eyes mean.

                              I had to look it up, too.

                              From Dictionary . com:

                              What does 👀 mean?

                              The eyes emoji has many uses. It mostly serves to draw attention to something the user wants to highlight, especially in situations that involve drama and interpersonal tension. It can also be an emoji representation of shifty eyes or the action of side-eyeing. This emoji sometimes appears when someone finds a person attractive.

                              From emojipedia:

                              👀 Eyes

                              A pair of eyes, glancing slightly to the left on most platforms. The Google version of this emoji previously showed only a single eye, despite the name of this character being eyes (plural).

                              Sometimes used to indicate ‘pervy eyes’ to indicate approval of an attractive photo posted online; or ‘shifty eyes’ to convey a deceitful act.

                              There’s actually a thing called an emojipedia . Ffs , whatever next ? Friendlies in test rugby?

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                                Try Again Bones

                                You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                He’s not the only one

                                👀 👀

                                Okay @MN5

                                Help us out oh wise one.....

                                He can't. He's ignoring you.

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                                @booboo said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @MN5 said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Jaguares4real largely meaningless in a world cup year, largely meaningless between world cup years. Got it.

                                Try Again Bones

                                You're missing the point :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                He’s not the only one

                                👀 👀

                                Okay @MN5

                                Help us out oh wise one.....

                                He can't. He's ignoring you.

                                He's too unintentionally hilarious to ignore.

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                                  @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  No Bridge? Dry powder.

                                  It’s only a friendly

                                  Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                                  I'm looking for a very good performance

                                  Below graphic is insane

                                  https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

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                                  @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  No Bridge? Dry powder.

                                  It’s only a friendly

                                  Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                                  I'm looking for a very good performance

                                  Below graphic is insane

                                  https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                                  Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                                  The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                                  Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                                  You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                                  Enough already

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                                    Weather forecast for BA looks improved. Less likely to be a wet weather game.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

                                      There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

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                                      @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                      Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

                                      There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

                                      possibly due to the acceleration factor also, some can accelerate better off their left side and some on their right, and being a good winger is a lot about that initial acceleration to beat your first defender

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                                      • SiamS Siam

                                        @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        @Crucial said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        No Bridge? Dry powder.

                                        It’s only a friendly

                                        Big picture: the game is largely meaningless in a RWC Year

                                        I'm looking for a very good performance

                                        Below graphic is insane

                                        https://twitter.com/rpetty80/status/1151899943172497408/photo/1

                                        Welcome back fella, but jeez I'm getting tired of your meaningless test monologues

                                        The absolute truth is that all games are meaningless, if one subscribes to your assessment. Sport is what you want it to be. It's a voluntary leisure pursuit. The importance of it is in the minds of every participant differently.

                                        Calling games meaningless or friendlies is just a shit can notion for losers diminishing the achievements of winners. It's a dishonorable critique of national sport, and a deliberate insult to the winners. Let the players decide what is meaningless

                                        You're smart enough to know that and we're smart enough to know vapid trolling.

                                        Enough already

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                                        @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        I see why my POV is controversial

                                        But in an age where games are increasingly brutal + terrible travel itinerary you need to plan accordingly

                                        Not every Tier 1 nation is dealing with a full set of cards to play with
                                        Above graphic highlights where Los Pumas are at atm

                                        To have 5 players start every game & further 4 players miss only 1 game is diabolical You've got no shot of being competitive

                                        So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                                        Hence ensuring you've built depth and rested key personal accordingly

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                                          @Siam said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                          I see why my POV is controversial

                                          But in an age where games are increasingly brutal + terrible travel itinerary you need to plan accordingly

                                          Not every Tier 1 nation is dealing with a full set of cards to play with
                                          Above graphic highlights where Los Pumas are at atm

                                          To have 5 players start every game & further 4 players miss only 1 game is diabolical You've got no shot of being competitive

                                          So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                                          Hence ensuring you've built depth and rested key personal accordingly

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                                          @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                          So do you go all out with a shallow playing pool + by far worst travel schedule in world rugby or do you pick & choose what games you prioritise

                                          The Pumas do not have "by far the worst travel schedule". You're on a group from New Zealand for goodness sake. We're literally the furthest away from all the other rugby playing nations. Your NH tour tours are both much less far and with far less time difference.

                                          Argentina in the Rugby Championship have one more long trip than NZ or Australia, but there are direct flights to each country involved. South Africa have to travel just as far as you.

                                          The difference is that we win away from home, so people assume that we don't have travel issues. That's not true -- we've merely learnt to overcome them. The Pumas problem is not the travel, but that they don't play well away from home, regardless of the travel time involved.

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