Ashes 2019
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@NTA 40 up here is 50 down there fella .... Take your pick!
Anyway .. next wicket gone, so bad luck mate.
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@NTA if you were a brave betting guy, you should be backing Aussie to bowl England out for under 100...
@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
@NTA if you were a brave betting guy, you should be backing Aussie to bowl England out for under 100...
They're going too short to Archer at this point. Wasting time
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@Snowy said in Ashes 2019:
@Billy-Webb Well if the top few don't score you are always going to have issues. Roy doesn't look like a test cricketer to me (neither does Steve Smith - so what do I know).
As for English spinners...who was the last really, really good one??
And yes they are a handy side at ODI. They don't look so good at test cricket to me.
Agree with all of that - including the part of Steve Smith not looking like a test cricketer. Hell, he doesn't look like someone who could be scoring runs in any form of the game so I will join you in the "what the hell do I know" naughty corner.
I reckon Swann was probably their last very good spinner.
But the problem for England right now is that no-one has any form with the bat except maybe Stokes.
If Root and Bairstow could find some runs, their pace bowlers could back them up. Archer, Broad and Woakes have been good imo.EDIT: the above could easily describe the Proteas too!
@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
I reckon Swann was probably their last very good spinner.
Yeah he was alright. I googled,to answer my own question, and found this guy (who should probably go in the "awesome internet stuff" too:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateAnother Yorkshire native and another left-arm spinner, Hedley Verity was crucial for England in the period before the Second World War.
Regarded as the natural successor to fellow Yorkshireman Wilfred Rhodes, Verity regularly took wickets and often made match-winning contributions.
His career was cut short by the onset of the Second World War, and Verity died of wounds as a Prisoner of War in Italy.*
Just thought that was QI.
Otherwise, yes, Swann and Underwood before him.
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@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
I reckon Swann was probably their last very good spinner.
Yeah he was alright. I googled,to answer my own question, and found this guy (who should probably go in the "awesome internet stuff" too:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateAnother Yorkshire native and another left-arm spinner, Hedley Verity was crucial for England in the period before the Second World War.
Regarded as the natural successor to fellow Yorkshireman Wilfred Rhodes, Verity regularly took wickets and often made match-winning contributions.
His career was cut short by the onset of the Second World War, and Verity died of wounds as a Prisoner of War in Italy.*
Just thought that was QI.
Otherwise, yes, Swann and Underwood before him.
@Snowy said in Ashes 2019:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateBloody hell. Those are bloody good stats! And I had never heard of the guy...
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@Snowy said in Ashes 2019:
*7: Hedley Verity
40 Tests; 144 wickets; 24.37 average; 1.88 economy rateBloody hell. Those are bloody good stats! And I had never heard of the guy...
@Billy-Webb said in Ashes 2019:
And I had never heard of the guy...
Me neither. Amazing what you find aye? Meantime England really need someone to stand up. Would actually be good if they were all out now, then NZ won't hold the record for lowest score at Headingley.
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I have a sneaky feeling here ... that England will still get a first innings lead. And ... I'm going to put my balls on the stone here.
Avatar for a week that England take a first innings lead.
Whose up for it?
@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
I have a sneaky feeling here ... that England will still get a first innings lead.
How do you think the English Rugby team will go in Japan - champions?
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@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
I have a sneaky feeling here ... that England will still get a first innings lead.
How do you think the English Rugby team will go in Japan - champions?
@Billy-Tell said in Ashes 2019:
@MajorRage said in Ashes 2019:
I have a sneaky feeling here ... that England will still get a first innings lead.
How do you think the English Rugby team will go in Japan - champions?
Funnily enough .... yes.
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Two ordinary batting lineups against a couple of good attacks. With predictable results.
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