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    https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-air/daniel-mchardy-afternoons/out-of-the-box/out-of-the-box-super-rugby-2020-preview/

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    • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

      There's going to be a big outcry about the new rules around tackling and there's been very little coverage of it. You can already see the train crash coming from a publicity point of view 😞

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      @DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:

      There's going to be a big outcry about the new rules around tackling and there's been very little coverage of it. You can already see the train crash coming from a publicity point of view 😞

      There are no new rules around tackling, only that players/coaches will be sent warnings around bad technique in the tackle so they are aware and can work on it. Unlike the U20s there will be no punitive measures if you get two warnings.

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        @DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:

        There's going to be a big outcry about the new rules around tackling and there's been very little coverage of it. You can already see the train crash coming from a publicity point of view 😞

        There are no new rules around tackling, only that players/coaches will be sent warnings around bad technique in the tackle so they are aware and can work on it. Unlike the U20s there will be no punitive measures if you get two warnings.

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        @Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see

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        • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

          @Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see

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          @DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:

          @Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see

          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/20/super-rugby-high-tackle-warnings-referees

          No sanctions will be handed out under a new high tackle warning trial to be rolled out in Super Rugby this year, SANZAAR confirmed
          
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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:

            @Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see

            https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/20/super-rugby-high-tackle-warnings-referees

            No sanctions will be handed out under a new high tackle warning trial to be rolled out in Super Rugby this year, SANZAAR confirmed
            
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            @KiwiMurph Cool but does raise the question what's the point then...ah well the administrators have such a good record I'll trust them....

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            • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

              @KiwiMurph Cool but does raise the question what's the point then...ah well the administrators have such a good record I'll trust them....

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              @DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.

              "SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read.
              
              "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach.
              
              "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone.
              
              "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification."
              
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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.

                "SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read.
                
                "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach.
                
                "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone.
                
                "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification."
                
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                @KiwiMurph It's a bit like, coaches you don't know how to do your job so we are going to tell players that they don't know how to tackle.

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                  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/warren-gatland-vents-frustrations-over-all-blacks-resting-policy

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                    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/warren-gatland-vents-frustrations-over-all-blacks-resting-policy

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                    @Stargazer looks like Warren will continue his whining ways

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                      Yeah the obviously doesn't want the top job. And it's not like he didn't know what was happening before he signed up, the tosser. Live with it, is like injuries, deal with it sand stop being such a whiny fluffybunny

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                        In fairness reading the quotes I don't think it comes across that whingy. The title is a bit click-bait ish.

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                          I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                          Karl T? If not why not?

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                            I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                            Karl T? If not why not?

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                            @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                            I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                            Karl T? If not why not?

                            Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                            The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                            
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                              Braydon Ennor is one of them.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                Karl T? If not why not?

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                                @Crucial I think it is more about managing expected (potential) load this year for the ABs, which is based around those who played last year or are on radars

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                                  Ennor was mentioned (in the media) as being allowed to do his gradual return to play during preseason.

                                  I can imagine that players like Fifita and Laumape might be in this group, too.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Stargazer looks like Warren will continue his whining ways

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                                    @canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.

                                    No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.

                                    Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.

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                                      Probably this stupid limited minutes in a non WC year,tells us what the NZRFU really think of Super Rugby as a product, they are helping to kill it.
                                      Hopefully it doesn’t become a competition like the mitre10 cup.
                                      Token few games for some ABs

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                                        Rob Nichol and the NZRPA would also have been party to the collective agreement on behalf of the players.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                          Karl T? If not why not?

                                          Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                                          The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                                          
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                                          @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                          Karl T? If not why not?

                                          Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                                          The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                                          

                                          So the RWC squad minus BBBR, Read, Crotty, Whitelock.... plus DMac, Ennor.....who else?

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