Super Rugby 2020
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@DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:
There's going to be a big outcry about the new rules around tackling and there's been very little coverage of it. You can already see the train crash coming from a publicity point of view
There are no new rules around tackling, only that players/coaches will be sent warnings around bad technique in the tackle so they are aware and can work on it. Unlike the U20s there will be no punitive measures if you get two warnings.
@Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see
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@Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see
@DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/20/super-rugby-high-tackle-warnings-referees
No sanctions will be handed out under a new high tackle warning trial to be rolled out in Super Rugby this year, SANZAAR confirmed -
@DrivingMaul said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Machpants The way I read it they get a match ban after 2 warnings...Oh well we'll see
https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/20/super-rugby-high-tackle-warnings-referees
No sanctions will be handed out under a new high tackle warning trial to be rolled out in Super Rugby this year, SANZAAR confirmed@KiwiMurph Cool but does raise the question what's the point then...ah well the administrators have such a good record I'll trust them....
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@KiwiMurph Cool but does raise the question what's the point then...ah well the administrators have such a good record I'll trust them....
@DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.
"SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read. "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach. "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone. "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification." -
@DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.
"SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read. "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach. "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone. "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification."@KiwiMurph It's a bit like, coaches you don't know how to do your job so we are going to tell players that they don't know how to tackle.
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I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:
I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?Per the Stuff article a few posts above.
The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side -
I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?@Crucial I think it is more about managing expected (potential) load this year for the ABs, which is based around those who played last year or are on radars
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@Stargazer looks like Warren will continue his whining ways
@canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.
No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.
Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.
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Probably this stupid limited minutes in a non WC year,tells us what the NZRFU really think of Super Rugby as a product, they are helping to kill it.
Hopefully it doesn’t become a competition like the mitre10 cup.
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@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:
I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?Per the Stuff article a few posts above.
The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:
I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?Per the Stuff article a few posts above.
The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national sideSo the RWC squad minus BBBR, Read, Crotty, Whitelock.... plus DMac, Ennor.....who else?
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@canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.
No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.
Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.
@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2020:
@canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.
No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.
Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.
It's January. They'll play until late November if not December. Hardly "more time on holiday etc etc".
Why does Kolisi deserve more of a break?
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2020:
@Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:
I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
Karl T? If not why not?Per the Stuff article a few posts above.
The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national sideSo the RWC squad minus BBBR, Read, Crotty, Whitelock.... plus DMac, Ennor.....who else?
Initial Squad of 31
Forwards:
Hookers
Dane Coles
Liam Coltman
Codie Taylor
Props
Nepo Laulala
Joe Moody
Atu Moli
Angus Ta'avao
Ofa Tuungafasi
Locks
Scott Barrett
Brodie RetallickSabbatical
Patrick Tuipulotu
Samuel WhitelockSabbatical
Loose forwards
Sam Cane
Luke Jacobson
Kieran Readretired
Ardie Savea
Matt Toddretired
Backs:
Halfbacks
TJ Perenara
Aaron Smith
Brad Weber
First five-eighths
Beauden Barrett
Richie Mo'unga
Midfielders
Ryan Crottyretired
Jack Goodhue
Anton Lienert-Brown
Sonny Bill Williamsretired
Outside backs
Jordie Barrett
George Bridge
Rieko Ioane
Sevu Reece
Ben SmithretiredSo 6 spots to make 31 EDIT: 7 I forgot Todd
DMac for sure
Ennor, apparently
Frizzell was a replacement in the squad
Laumape almost certainly
Fafita?
Were short locks, but Sam is back
Dalton maybe?
Akira
Oh Josh Ioane
