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  • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

    @KiwiMurph Cool but does raise the question what's the point then...ah well the administrators have such a good record I'll trust them....

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    @DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.

    "SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read.
    
    "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach.
    
    "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone.
    
    "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification."
    
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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @DrivingMaul It's all in the article that I linked.

      "SANZAAR is focusing on implementing a process that identifies high-risk upright tackles," the statement read.
      
      "The shadow trial will see SANZAAR looking at all tackles each round and identifying tackles in which the tackler is in an upright body position, and in the event it is deemed the tackler has shown poor technique in executing an upright tackle, a warning may be sent to the player and player's coach.
      
      "This process will be an educational process that will aim to educate players and coaches of high-risk behaviours by identifying poor tackle techniques and seeking to inform players of better choices they can make in the tackle zone.
      
      "This process will not impose any sanctions on players. This is not designed to penalise the player in any way but to hopefully shine a light on poor technique that has been shown to increase the risk of significant injury and attempt to affect behavioural change via education and identification."
      
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      @KiwiMurph It's a bit like, coaches you don't know how to do your job so we are going to tell players that they don't know how to tackle.

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        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/warren-gatland-vents-frustrations-over-all-blacks-resting-policy

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          https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/warren-gatland-vents-frustrations-over-all-blacks-resting-policy

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          @Stargazer looks like Warren will continue his whining ways

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            Yeah the obviously doesn't want the top job. And it's not like he didn't know what was happening before he signed up, the tosser. Live with it, is like injuries, deal with it sand stop being such a whiny fluffybunny

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              In fairness reading the quotes I don't think it comes across that whingy. The title is a bit click-bait ish.

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                I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                Karl T? If not why not?

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                  Karl T? If not why not?

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                  @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                  I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                  Karl T? If not why not?

                  Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                  The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                  
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                  • StargazerS Offline
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                    Braydon Ennor is one of them.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                      Karl T? If not why not?

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                      @Crucial I think it is more about managing expected (potential) load this year for the ABs, which is based around those who played last year or are on radars

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                        Ennor was mentioned (in the media) as being allowed to do his gradual return to play during preseason.

                        I can imagine that players like Fifita and Laumape might be in this group, too.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @Stargazer looks like Warren will continue his whining ways

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                          @canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.

                          No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.

                          Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.

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                            Probably this stupid limited minutes in a non WC year,tells us what the NZRFU really think of Super Rugby as a product, they are helping to kill it.
                            Hopefully it doesn’t become a competition like the mitre10 cup.
                            Token few games for some ABs

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                              Rob Nichol and the NZRPA would also have been party to the collective agreement on behalf of the players.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                Karl T? If not why not?

                                Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                                The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                                
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                                @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                Karl T? If not why not?

                                Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                                The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                                

                                So the RWC squad minus BBBR, Read, Crotty, Whitelock.... plus DMac, Ennor.....who else?

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.

                                  No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.

                                  Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                  @canefan I’m with Gatland on this. It’s not even a World Cup year. These guys get paid enough to do a job, seems like they spend more time on holiday than actually playing these days.

                                  No wonder Super Rugby is becoming less and less appealing for most people, the best players don’t even play.

                                  Ironically guys like Kolisi suited up for the Stormers in pre season last week. Someone that probably actually deserves a delayed start to the year.

                                  It's January. They'll play until late November if not December. Hardly "more time on holiday etc etc".

                                  Why does Kolisi deserve more of a break?

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                    I wonder who else, other than DMac, is caught up in the restrictions despite not being an AB last year?
                                    Karl T? If not why not?

                                    Per the Stuff article a few posts above.

                                    The collective agreement allows for up to 33 players to be load managed, though the All Blacks coaches have identified just 31 - all those who attended the World Cup last year, plus some others who have some history with the national side
                                    

                                    So the RWC squad minus BBBR, Read, Crotty, Whitelock.... plus DMac, Ennor.....who else?

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                                    @Crucial

                                    Initial Squad of 31

                                    Forwards:
                                    Hookers
                                    Dane Coles
                                    Liam Coltman
                                    Codie Taylor
                                    Props
                                    Nepo Laulala
                                    Joe Moody
                                    Atu Moli
                                    Angus Ta'avao
                                    Ofa Tuungafasi
                                    Locks
                                    Scott Barrett
                                    Brodie Retallick Sabbatical
                                    Patrick Tuipulotu
                                    Samuel Whitelock Sabbatical
                                    Loose forwards
                                    Sam Cane
                                    Luke Jacobson
                                    Kieran Read retired
                                    Ardie Savea
                                    Matt Todd retired
                                    Backs:
                                    Halfbacks
                                    TJ Perenara
                                    Aaron Smith
                                    Brad Weber
                                    First five-eighths
                                    Beauden Barrett
                                    Richie Mo'unga
                                    Midfielders
                                    Ryan Crotty retired
                                    Jack Goodhue
                                    Anton Lienert-Brown
                                    Sonny Bill Williams retired
                                    Outside backs
                                    Jordie Barrett
                                    George Bridge
                                    Rieko Ioane
                                    Sevu Reece
                                    Ben Smith retired

                                    So 6 spots to make 31 EDIT: 7 I forgot Todd
                                    DMac for sure
                                    Ennor, apparently
                                    Frizzell was a replacement in the squad
                                    Laumape almost certainly
                                    Fafita?
                                    Were short locks, but Sam is back
                                    Dalton maybe?
                                    Akira 🤣
                                    Oh Josh Ioane

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                                      Karl T ahead of Moli.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        Probably this stupid limited minutes in a non WC year,tells us what the NZRFU really think of Super Rugby as a product, they are helping to kill it.
                                        Hopefully it doesn’t become a competition like the mitre10 cup.
                                        Token few games for some ABs

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                                        booboo
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                                        @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                        Probably this stupid limited minutes in a non WC year,tells us what the NZRFU really think of Super Rugby as a product, they are helping to kill it.
                                        Hopefully it doesn’t become a competition like the mitre10 cup.
                                        Token few games for some ABs

                                        The problem is the length of the season. It needs to be wound back in. Drop the number if teams. Which they've done.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Karl T ahead of Moli.

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                                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2020:

                                          Karl T ahead of Moli.

                                          Why? He was well of the pace last year and dropped, so in between then and now I'm not sure anyone has done enough to replaced someone, considering no actual games. He could be one of the extra six, sure, but ABs don't get dropped just because

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