Eight Becomes Four
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@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Navidi is out. Going home.
Fuck
@MiketheSnow yeah, that's a real shame for Wales. And I say that genuinely even though it helps my Boks. I think Wales have a long-term star there. Kak end to the tournie for the player too.
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@MiketheSnow yeah, that's a real shame for Wales. And I say that genuinely even though it helps my Boks. I think Wales have a long-term star there. Kak end to the tournie for the player too.
@Billy-Webb The word "kak" has to be one the greatest gifts SA has given us. That and "tackies" (or takkies?), and "oke" for the lads.
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Well, if (IF) we manage to negotiate NZ in the semi I am torn as to who I would want in the final. On the one hand I would dearly love for an all NH final and I would also very much like for Wales to get to the final. However, what if we were to lose? Could I take the Celtic backlash for the next 150 years?
and @MiketheSnow Navidi is certainly a loss but Moriarty is a pretty good replacement and more of an out and out 8 (providing he keeps his hands in his pocket that is).
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It's going to be a classic old fashioned traditional Wales v All Blacks final..along the lines of the All Blacks v Lllanelli game in '72 except the All blacks will win 8-3...you heard it here first.
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It's going to be a classic old fashioned traditional Wales v All Blacks final..along the lines of the All Blacks v Lllanelli game in '72 except the All blacks will win 8-3...you heard it here first.
@Blackheart said in Eight Becomes Four:
It's going to be a classic old fashioned traditional Wales v All Blacks final..along the lines of the All Blacks v Lllanelli game in '72 except the All blacks will win 8-3...you heard it here first.
Where do I sign up?
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@Billy-Webb The word "kak" has to be one the greatest gifts SA has given us. That and "tackies" (or takkies?), and "oke" for the lads.
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South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone.
@mariner4life said in Eight Becomes Four:
South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
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@voodoo your Safrican is very good!
yes, Kak is probably one of my favourites. It means shit of course, but in true Afrikaans style, you can also use it in a superlative positive way as in that is kak lekker
(spelling is takkies btw).
@Billy-Webb I'm at least 20% African...
Started by touring Europe at the same pace as a van being driven by some legend SA chaps - who incidentally had a roughed up stuffed Wallaby strapped to the bumper bar...
A few months later and I started working for a South African firm in London, and here I am in Sydney with the same firm, 15yrs later. Lots of great okes and awesome times.
Have been to SA close to 10 times and has always been wonderful - though have never seen a live rugby game there
And I had no idea that kak could be used in the positive!
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@Billy-Webb I'm at least 20% African...
Started by touring Europe at the same pace as a van being driven by some legend SA chaps - who incidentally had a roughed up stuffed Wallaby strapped to the bumper bar...
A few months later and I started working for a South African firm in London, and here I am in Sydney with the same firm, 15yrs later. Lots of great okes and awesome times.
Have been to SA close to 10 times and has always been wonderful - though have never seen a live rugby game there
And I had no idea that kak could be used in the positive!
@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Billy-Webb I'm at least 20% African...
Started by touring Europe at the same pace as a van being driven by some legend SA chaps - who incidentally had a roughed up stuffed Wallaby strapped to the bumper bar...
A few months later and I started working for a South African firm in London, and here I am in Sydney with the same firm, 15yrs later. Lots of great okes and awesome times.
Have been to SA close to 10 times and has always been wonderful - though have never seen a live rugby game there
And I had no idea that kak could be used in the positive!
Small world we live in!
So next time you are due in SA, try and make it to Cape Town timed with a rugby game (or even the Sevens tournie).
Let me know in advance and I'll take you to a game
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@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Billy-Webb I'm at least 20% African...
Started by touring Europe at the same pace as a van being driven by some legend SA chaps - who incidentally had a roughed up stuffed Wallaby strapped to the bumper bar...
A few months later and I started working for a South African firm in London, and here I am in Sydney with the same firm, 15yrs later. Lots of great okes and awesome times.
Have been to SA close to 10 times and has always been wonderful - though have never seen a live rugby game there
And I had no idea that kak could be used in the positive!
Small world we live in!
So next time you are due in SA, try and make it to Cape Town timed with a rugby game (or even the Sevens tournie).
Let me know in advance and I'll take you to a game@Billy-Webb absolutely will do that!
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@mariner4life said in Eight Becomes Four:
South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
@Frank said in Eight Becomes Four:
@mariner4life said in Eight Becomes Four:
South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
Don't forget our extra week off...
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Honestly, I couldn't care who is favourites now. The All Blacks are two wins from a lot of glory. Glory like never before.
2011 was the monkey off the back, 2015 was proving we could win away from home, 2019 is about showing beyond any doubt that these All Blacks are the most dominant team in Rugby.
If England, South Africa or Wales get one over us from here then so be it. But it ain't gonna be down to a lack of effort or desire to win. Go Black!
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@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
@booboo said in Eight Becomes Four:
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
Neck on line.
Favourites are NZ and SA
England are fit and raring to go. England to sneak it.
Wales played shit in the QF.
If all personnel - read Navidi and J Davies - are fit then Wales won't fear SA.
We've beaten them in our last three meetings.
England v Wales final
Head or heart?
That has to be heart.
If Wales make it to the final, they'd much rather face England who they know how to beat.
They have yet to unlock that mystery against the ABs.Exactly.
NZ are beatable. England are good enough.
SA are beatable. Wales knows how to beat them.
If it's an England v Wales final, we know how to beat England.
If it's an NZ v Wales final, we don't.
@MiketheSnow Each of these teams is capable of beating each other. And a fair few of the Welsh boyos have beaten the ABs as Lions. They know what it takes.
But what it takes looks to be beyond what England, Wales and the Boks are capable of delivering right now.
The English were gifted their QF by as tactically braindead Australian side as I've ever seen. And what was shocking was how the Aussies persisted with their run from anywhere strategy even as it was repeatedly shown to be beyond foolish. While you can only play what's in front of you, I didn't see anything to suggest that this English side will be able to contain the AB attack enough and generate enough points to win.
Ditto Wales. As admirable as that win was given the half-time score, its hard to imagine any of the other remaining challengers giving up the stranglehold the French had on that game. In glorious French fashion they snatched that result from Fate's jaws. But the manner in which the French penetrated Wales' defence suggests that the ABs won't be contained by this Welsh team (and I don't think Davis recovering changes that.)
And the Boks, well they have to get past Wales and they haven't been able to do that for four years. And there's a reason for that. This Welsh team is bloody good. And it plays a style that is a bad match for SA. I have serious doubts that there are enough points in this Bok attack and in Pollard's misfiring boot for this result to start a reversion to the mean. Then again, at some stage you'd expect the boks' passes to start sticking and for Pollard to start nailing them again...
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@Duluth said in Eight Becomes Four:
@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Almost an asterisk title if they get up
Just like 2007
and 1995
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@MiketheSnow Each of these teams is capable of beating each other. And a fair few of the Welsh boyos have beaten the ABs as Lions. They know what it takes.
But what it takes looks to be beyond what England, Wales and the Boks are capable of delivering right now.
The English were gifted their QF by as tactically braindead Australian side as I've ever seen. And what was shocking was how the Aussies persisted with their run from anywhere strategy even as it was repeatedly shown to be beyond foolish. While you can only play what's in front of you, I didn't see anything to suggest that this English side will be able to contain the AB attack enough and generate enough points to win.
Ditto Wales. As admirable as that win was given the half-time score, its hard to imagine any of the other remaining challengers giving up the stranglehold the French had on that game. In glorious French fashion they snatched that result from Fate's jaws. But the manner in which the French penetrated Wales' defence suggests that the ABs won't be contained by this Welsh team (and I don't think Davis recovering changes that.)
And the Boks, well they have to get past Wales and they haven't been able to do that for four years. And there's a reason for that. This Welsh team is bloody good. And it plays a style that is a bad match for SA. I have serious doubts that there are enough points in this Bok attack and in Pollard's misfiring boot for this result to start a reversion to the mean. Then again, at some stage you'd expect the boks' passes to start sticking and for Pollard to start nailing them again...
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Let me start with the blindingly obvious. It is so much better to make it to the Semi’s than being knocked out in the Quarters. But not only because your cause is still alive, but also because you are guaranteed 2 more games and will see the RWC through to conclusion. Even if you lose your semi, you still have a shot at a consolation bronze medal. Not much of a consolation at the time, but in years to come it is nicer to say you came third than you got dumped out in the Quarters.
So on to those Quarter-final results: Article is here
@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
because you are guaranteed 2 more games and will see the RWC through to conclusion.
Nope.
The game that no one wants!
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@Frank said in Eight Becomes Four:
@mariner4life said in Eight Becomes Four:
South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
Don't forget our extra week off...
@junior said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Frank said in Eight Becomes Four:
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
Don't forget our extra week off...
For a while it was looking like all 3 teams that had their final pool match cancelled were going to win their QF matches.
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@junior said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Frank said in Eight Becomes Four:
If we get past England, we have one more day of recovery because we play our semi one day earlier. Advantage?
Don't forget our extra week off...
For a while it was looking like all 3 teams that had their final pool match cancelled were going to win their QF matches.
@Bovidae said in Eight Becomes Four:
For a while it was looking like all 3 teams that had their final pool match cancelled were going to win their QF matches.
but for a thuggish act, they probably would have.
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@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Billy-Webb I'm at least 20% African...
Started by touring Europe at the same pace as a van being driven by some legend SA chaps - who incidentally had a roughed up stuffed Wallaby strapped to the bumper bar...
A few months later and I started working for a South African firm in London, and here I am in Sydney with the same firm, 15yrs later. Lots of great okes and awesome times.
Have been to SA close to 10 times and has always been wonderful - though have never seen a live rugby game there
And I had no idea that kak could be used in the positive!
Small world we live in!
So next time you are due in SA, try and make it to Cape Town timed with a rugby game (or even the Sevens tournie).
Let me know in advance and I'll take you to a game@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
Let me know in advance and I'll take you to a game
@voodoo Two ways to go there - a very rested liver, or a well trained one.
