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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    @Crucial

    Hansen at least won with the Canterbury team. What has Foster ever won?

    And sure, Hansen's time at Wales included a disastrous run, but prior to Henry they'd been all shades of shit. And at least he'd coached internationally when he was appointed to the ABs.

    Part of the difference is the options we have this time, compared to last. I doubt Hansen would have beaten the equivalent of Jamie Joseph or Schmidt or Rennie.

    Foster will displace proven international coaches if he gets the job -- guys with stellar resumes who have done record things with the teams they have had. Guys who have never had a team perform like the 2010 and 2011 Chiefs.

    Edit: a Foster All Blacks vs Rennie Wallabies will be something to watch from behind the couch. Given how much better the Chiefs went under Rennie -- why would NZ rugby let that happen?

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    @Chester-Draws said in Fozzie:

    @Crucial

    Hansen at least won with the Canterbury team. What has Foster ever won?

    And sure, Hansen's time at Wales included a disastrous run, but prior to Henry they'd been all shades of shit. And at least he'd coached internationally when he was appointed to the ABs.

    Part of the difference is the options we have this time, compared to last. I doubt Hansen would have beaten the equivalent of Jamie Joseph or Schmidt or Rennie.

    Foster will displace proven international coaches if he gets the job -- guys with stellar resumes who have done record things with the teams they have had. Guys who have never had a team perform like the 2010 and 2011 Chiefs.

    Edit: a Foster All Blacks vs Rennie Wallabies will be something to watch from behind the couch. Given how much better the Chiefs went under Rennie -- why would NZ rugby let that happen?

    How do you figure that? Have these guys applied?
    Apart from that Schmidt's limitations have been shown. He devised and trained a gameplay against us that we learned to counter. He also failed to provide mental stability. His team crumbled under pressure.
    JJ? Yep, I'd like him and Tony Brown in the mix if they felt the time was ready. Japanese pockets may currently be very deep though.
    Rennie is an interesting one. As you have said he took the work of Foster and tidied it up on the selection and culture front. Did a bloody good job as well. Smith was the tactical brains though. Rennie is not looking so flash up north and it will be very interesting if he ends up in Oz.

    I haven't suggested that Foster should walk into the job at all. I'm not in the ABF (anyone but Fozzie) group either though. I think there are some strong suggestions that he could carry on a strong period in NZ Rugby with the right crew alongside him and he deserves a decent hearing. I'm certainly not going to dismiss his abilities based on stuff he did a decade ago.

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    Foster's backline looked great against Ireland. Be interesting to see how they go in the next two games. No problem with Hansen sharing praise with his deputy when he does a good job. Foster will be a serious applicant to the AB's Chief role.

    Joseph and Robertson have had much more success as Head Coach so are the favourites to succeed Hansen IMHO.

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