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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @Siam said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

    Stink that the toss decision is so one sided on a rainy day. Everyone leaves the toss knowing the winner is already in the box seat, due to the chasing calculations in Duckworth Lewis.

    I don't know a better solution though

    Do you know the numbers on that? Could only find 50 over matches and a (possibly dodgy) report - nothing for T20.

    The conclusion was that the side winning the toss was most likely to win (66%) but team batting first also won 64%.

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    #96

    @Snowy yeah I was wondering if the stats would refute the chasing is easier notion

    Quite a fun little wog fest, this game

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      #97

      So NZ bay first in what is now an E11.

      Make 146.

      England need 2.22 runs per ball.

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        #98

        Seriously?
        Again!

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          Hooroo
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          #99

          This is fascinating.

          In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            This is fascinating.

            In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

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            Baron Silas Greenback
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            #100

            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

            This is fascinating.

            In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

            Did you see the first innings?

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            • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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              Baron Silas Greenback
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              #101

              Ross Taylor could have cost us this match with his bad running.

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              • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                This is fascinating.

                In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                Did you see the first innings?

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                Hooroo
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                #102

                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                This is fascinating.

                In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                Did you see the first innings?

                No. Just describing what I watched

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                • CrucialC Offline
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                  #103

                  Why did Seifert face first?

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    This is fascinating.

                    In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                    Did you see the first innings?

                    No. Just describing what I watched

                    Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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                    Baron Silas Greenback
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                    #104

                    @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    This is fascinating.

                    In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                    Did you see the first innings?

                    No. Just describing what I watched

                    The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

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                    • CrucialC Offline
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                      Crucial
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #105

                      PTSD?

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        So NZ bay first in what is now an E11.

                        Make 146.

                        England need 2.22 runs per ball.

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                        booboo
                        wrote on last edited by booboo
                        #106

                        @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        So NZ bay first in what is now an E11.

                        Make 146.

                        England need 2.22 runs per ball.

                        So we tied then lost the O1.

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                        • Chris B.C Offline
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                          Chris B.
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                          #107

                          Bit reminiscent of the CWC Final.

                          We had the foot on the throat several times in regulation and let them back in. Pretty disappointing.

                          Santner had a great series with the ball - player of the series for us.

                          Conversely, his spin partner Ish was disappointing - mainly got smoked.

                          Think we missed Ferguson in the last two games. Might have been the man for the super over.

                          Unless there's strong evidence that the pitch is going to turn, I hope they seriously consider playing Ferguson in the tests and not playing a spinner.

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                          • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            This is fascinating.

                            In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                            Did you see the first innings?

                            No. Just describing what I watched

                            The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                            HoorooH Offline
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                            Hooroo
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #108

                            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            This is fascinating.

                            In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                            Did you see the first innings?

                            No. Just describing what I watched

                            The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                            Can you fill me in? I’m not up to speed with the new interpretations.

                            Is it no longer wide if going down leg and batsman stays in normal position?

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              Bit reminiscent of the CWC Final.

                              We had the foot on the throat several times in regulation and let them back in. Pretty disappointing.

                              Santner had a great series with the ball - player of the series for us.

                              Conversely, his spin partner Ish was disappointing - mainly got smoked.

                              Think we missed Ferguson in the last two games. Might have been the man for the super over.

                              Unless there's strong evidence that the pitch is going to turn, I hope they seriously consider playing Ferguson in the tests and not playing a spinner.

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                              @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                              Think we missed Ferguson in the last two games. Might have been the man for the super over.

                              Don't think they would have used Ferg for a super over at Eden park. Every edge or flick will be 6 or 4 even the slower ball probably. Agree they missed him and yeah should be considered for the tests.

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                This is fascinating.

                                In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                                Did you see the first innings?

                                No. Just describing what I watched

                                The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                                Can you fill me in? I’m not up to speed with the new interpretations.

                                Is it no longer wide if going down leg and batsman stays in normal position?

                                Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
                                Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
                                Baron Silas Greenback
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #110

                                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                This is fascinating.

                                In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                                Did you see the first innings?

                                No. Just describing what I watched

                                The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                                Can you fill me in? I’m not up to speed with the new interpretations.

                                Is it no longer wide if going down leg and batsman stays in normal position?

                                Yip. But the wide moves with the batsmen now. So if he moves slightly to off and it just goes down leg often it is not callef

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                                • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  This is fascinating.

                                  In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                                  Did you see the first innings?

                                  No. Just describing what I watched

                                  The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                                  Can you fill me in? I’m not up to speed with the new interpretations.

                                  Is it no longer wide if going down leg and batsman stays in normal position?

                                  Yip. But the wide moves with the batsmen now. So if he moves slightly to off and it just goes down leg often it is not callef

                                  SiamS Offline
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                                  Siam
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                                  #111

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  This is fascinating.

                                  In my mind we have got away with murder with some of the wide calls

                                  Did you see the first innings?

                                  No. Just describing what I watched

                                  The umpire was generous but consistent with the new interpretations

                                  Can you fill me in? I’m not up to speed with the new interpretations.

                                  Is it no longer wide if going down leg and batsman stays in normal position?

                                  Yip. But the wide moves with the batsmen now. So if he moves slightly to off and it just goes down leg often it is not callef

                                  Was an issue today where Boult bowled inside of the offside crease guide line and, presumably, the batsman had moved sufficiently leg side for a ball bowled inside the marker to be called wide.

                                  Might have been an umpire mistake but we can't have balls inside the off marker being wided because of batsman moving

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    Bit reminiscent of the CWC Final.

                                    We had the foot on the throat several times in regulation and let them back in. Pretty disappointing.

                                    Santner had a great series with the ball - player of the series for us.

                                    Conversely, his spin partner Ish was disappointing - mainly got smoked.

                                    Think we missed Ferguson in the last two games. Might have been the man for the super over.

                                    Unless there's strong evidence that the pitch is going to turn, I hope they seriously consider playing Ferguson in the tests and not playing a spinner.

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                                    nzzp
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                                    #112

                                    @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                    Bit reminiscent of the CWC Final.

                                    We had the foot on the throat several times in regulation and let them back in. Pretty disappointing.

                                    Santner had a great series with the ball - player of the series for us.

                                    Conversely, his spin partner Ish was disappointing - mainly got smoked.

                                    The two overs where Ish went for 3 sixes ina row, after Kuggelijn got pumped cost us the game I reckon. 40 off two overs let them back in and surrendered the momentum nicely.

                                    Also, Boult missed a straightforward runout, and that was super frustrating.

                                    Then it was just down to two big sixes in the super over - they could, we couldn't. Good game. Shout out to the ground; had no expectation of play when it chucked it down all morning and early afternoon

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                      Bit reminiscent of the CWC Final.

                                      We had the foot on the throat several times in regulation and let them back in. Pretty disappointing.

                                      Santner had a great series with the ball - player of the series for us.

                                      Conversely, his spin partner Ish was disappointing - mainly got smoked.

                                      The two overs where Ish went for 3 sixes ina row, after Kuggelijn got pumped cost us the game I reckon. 40 off two overs let them back in and surrendered the momentum nicely.

                                      Also, Boult missed a straightforward runout, and that was super frustrating.

                                      Then it was just down to two big sixes in the super over - they could, we couldn't. Good game. Shout out to the ground; had no expectation of play when it chucked it down all morning and early afternoon

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                                      ACT Crusader
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                                      @nzzp speaking of big overs, and not sure if mentioned, did anyone else see Kiwi Sophie Devine hit 5 consecutive 6’s off the final over of the WBBL game today? On her way to a match winning 85no.

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                                        #114

                                        New Zealand Test squad:
                                        Todd Astle, Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Henry Nicholls, Jeet Raval, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, Neil Wagner, BJ Watling (wk), Kane Williamson (c)

                                        https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28078846/lockie-ferguson-line-new-zealand-test-debut-maiden-call-up

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          New Zealand Test squad:
                                          Todd Astle, Tom Blundell, Trent Boult, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Tom Latham, Henry Nicholls, Jeet Raval, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor, Neil Wagner, BJ Watling (wk), Kane Williamson (c)

                                          https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28078846/lockie-ferguson-line-new-zealand-test-debut-maiden-call-up

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                                          I'm a bit surprised to see Astle and Santner as the spinners and both Patel and Somerville not.

                                          Hope they think long and hard about playing without a spinner in NZ. Seems like a long time since any NZ spinner took a bag of wickets at home.

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