Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

Cricket: NZ vs England

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
cricket
693 Posts 57 Posters 41.2k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • boobooB Offline
    boobooB Offline
    booboo
    wrote on last edited by booboo
    #464

    Some context and collaboration corroboration

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

    What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

    boobooB M 2 Replies Last reply
    4
    • No QuarterN Offline
      No QuarterN Offline
      No Quarter
      wrote on last edited by No Quarter
      #465

      @booboo oh, so I guess Kane doesn't need to apologise on behalf of New Zealanders. Root needs to step up and apologise on behalf of of the English then.

      The plot thickens.

      1 Reply Last reply
      4
      • boobooB booboo

        Some context and collaboration corroboration

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

        What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

        boobooB Offline
        boobooB Offline
        booboo
        wrote on last edited by booboo
        #466

        @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

        Some context and collaboration corroboration

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

        What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

        Edit. Me not word good

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • boobooB booboo

          Some context and collaboration corroboration

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

          M Offline
          M Offline
          Machpants
          wrote on last edited by
          #467

          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

          Some context and collaboration corroboration

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

          The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

          boobooB 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • BonesB Online
            BonesB Online
            Bones
            wrote on last edited by
            #468

            Prolly saying he is an undercover BC.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • M Machpants

              @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

              Some context and collaboration corroboration

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

              What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

              The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

              boobooB Offline
              boobooB Offline
              booboo
              wrote on last edited by
              #469

              @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

              @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

              Some context and collaboration corroboration

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

              What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

              The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

              And how is that racist?

              Funny? Yes.

              Racist? Hmm

              M 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • BovidaeB Offline
                BovidaeB Offline
                Bovidae
                wrote on last edited by
                #470

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/117739296/how-father-figure-chris-kuggeleijn-shaped-the-career-of-black-cap-bj-watling

                1 Reply Last reply
                2
                • boobooB booboo

                  @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  Some context and collaboration corroboration

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                  What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                  The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                  And how is that racist?

                  Funny? Yes.

                  Racist? Hmm

                  M Offline
                  M Offline
                  Machpants
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #471

                  @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                  Some context and collaboration corroboration

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                  What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                  The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                  And how is that racist?

                  Funny? Yes.

                  Racist? Hmm

                  Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                  CrucialC boobooB 2 Replies Last reply
                  0
                  • M Machpants

                    @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    Some context and collaboration corroboration

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                    What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                    The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                    And how is that racist?

                    Funny? Yes.

                    Racist? Hmm

                    Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                    CrucialC Offline
                    CrucialC Offline
                    Crucial
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #472

                    @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                    Some context and collaboration corroboration

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                    What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                    The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                    And how is that racist?

                    Funny? Yes.

                    Racist? Hmm

                    Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                    With Archer though, he became eligible after a rule change on residency cutting his time to qualify from 7 to 3 years. He has a UK Passport but only arrived in the UK after turning 18. He will be under scrutiny as a 'ring in' because of that.
                    Using racist terms to convey that scrutiny isn't the way to do it though.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      CDG and Boult out of Second Test

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/117744213/new-zealand-v-england-black-caps-lose-trent-boult-colin-de-grandhomme-for-second-test

                      John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

                      Chris B.C Offline
                      Chris B.C Offline
                      Chris B.
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #473

                      @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                      John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

                      Is Mitch Jr. a good enough bowler at test level to be a like-for-like replacement for Colin?

                      I'd have thought Jimmy Neesham might have been further up the queue.

                      BovidaeB Crazy HorseC 2 Replies Last reply
                      0
                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                        John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

                        Is Mitch Jr. a good enough bowler at test level to be a like-for-like replacement for Colin?

                        I'd have thought Jimmy Neesham might have been further up the queue.

                        BovidaeB Offline
                        BovidaeB Offline
                        Bovidae
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #474

                        @Chris-B I thought Neesham would have been picked too. Mitchell should be more economical than Neesham and tie up an end. He might not play anyway depending on pitch conditions.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • M Machpants

                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          Some context and collaboration corroboration

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                          The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                          And how is that racist?

                          Funny? Yes.

                          Racist? Hmm

                          Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                          boobooB Offline
                          boobooB Offline
                          booboo
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #475

                          @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                          Some context and collaboration corroboration

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                          What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                          The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                          And how is that racist?

                          Funny? Yes.

                          Racist? Hmm

                          Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                          Que?

                          CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • boobooB booboo

                            @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            Some context and collaboration corroboration

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                            What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                            The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                            And how is that racist?

                            Funny? Yes.

                            Racist? Hmm

                            Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                            Que?

                            CrucialC Offline
                            CrucialC Offline
                            Crucial
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #476

                            @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @Machpants said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            @booboo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                            Some context and collaboration corroboration

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288888

                            What kind of comment could it be that NZers don't recognise as racial?

                            The 'show us your passport' type stuff, I guess?

                            And how is that racist?

                            Funny? Yes.

                            Racist? Hmm

                            Because just cos you're black doesn't mean you can't be British. The implication being BAME people aren't Brits.

                            Que?

                            I took a guess that he meant Black And Mixed Ethnicity.

                            Could be wrong though. I've not seen the term before.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • DuluthD Offline
                              DuluthD Offline
                              Duluth
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #477

                              @booboo @Crucial

                              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_ethnicity_in_the_United_Kingdom#Collective_terms_for_minority_ethnic_groups

                              A number of terms have been used, by government and more generally, to refer to the collective ethnic minority population. These include "black and minority ethnic" (BME), "black, Asian and minority ethnic" (BAME) and "black and ethnic minority" (BEM)
                              
                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • boobooB Offline
                                boobooB Offline
                                booboo
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #478

                                Thanks guys.

                                Did know what it means (but not the actual acronym).

                                My confusion was more about how being teased for having a passport of seeming convenience was in anyway racial.

                                I suspect Wags has copped shit for his emigration.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

                                  Is Mitch Jr. a good enough bowler at test level to be a like-for-like replacement for Colin?

                                  I'd have thought Jimmy Neesham might have been further up the queue.

                                  Crazy HorseC Offline
                                  Crazy HorseC Offline
                                  Crazy Horse
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #479

                                  @Chris-B said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  @Hooroo said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                  John Mitchell's son comes into the team with Ferguson

                                  Is Mitch Jr. a good enough bowler at test level to be a like-for-like replacement for Colin?

                                  I'd have thought Jimmy Neesham might have been further up the queue.

                                  Have my doubts re Mitchell. I just assumed Neesham was injured again.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • CyclopsC Offline
                                    CyclopsC Offline
                                    Cyclops
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #480

                                    I know it would upset our bowling plans but I'd be tempted to bring in Ferg for Boult and Young for De Grandhomme.

                                    Especially if there are signs that the Hamilton pitch might turn, and Kane can take on the role of second spinner to further reduce the workload of our the seamers.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • RapidoR Offline
                                      RapidoR Offline
                                      Rapido
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #481

                                      Young isn't available, hasn't played yet this season.

                                      CyclopsC 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • BovidaeB Offline
                                        BovidaeB Offline
                                        Bovidae
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #482

                                        Northern Districts allrounder Daryl Mitchell has been confirmed to make his Black Caps test debut at Hamilton on Thursday.

                                        Ross Taylor said at a press conference on Thursday that Mitchell - the son of former All Blacks coach John Mitchell - will be part of the New Zealand XI to face England in the second test. Mitchell was called into the squad this week following an abdominal injury to Colin de Grandhomme suffered late in the first test victory in Mount Maunganui.

                                        A decision has yet to be made on who will replace injured pace bowler Trent Boult in the XI for the second and final test in the series. With Mitchell's inclusion confirmed, it will come down to a choice between swing bowler Matt Henry and quick Lockie Ferguson.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          Young isn't available, hasn't played yet this season.

                                          CyclopsC Offline
                                          CyclopsC Offline
                                          Cyclops
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #483

                                          @Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs England:

                                          Young isn't available, hasn't played yet this season.

                                          Sigh, stupid facts getting in the way of a good plan.

                                          Darryl Mitchell feels like a nothing selection. No disrespect to the guy, but I'm not convinced he's good enough at either discipline to play test cricket.

                                          About three years ago a was saying the same thing about Colin de Grandhomme though, so here's hoping the selectors are right again.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search