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    Jamie Joseph
    Leon MacDonald
    Clarke Dermody
    Kieran Keane
    Ceri Evans

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    • TimT Tim

      There is no love lost between Steve Hansen and Warren Gatland. While Gatland used his final press conference as Welsh coach to bizarrely challenge his Kiwi successor Wayne Pivac to match the efforts of his 12-year tenure, Hansen swiftly landed two flush blows to his opposite. First Hansen reminded the Welsh media that his record against Gatland is 8-1-1 in the All Blacks favour. "It's been competitive, yeah," Hansen quipped. He then questioned New Zealand Rugby's decision to let Gatland sacrifice one season his four-year Chiefs contract to lead the British and Irish Lions in 2021. Don't let pictures of these two heavyweight Kiwi coaches sharing a post-match beer fool you, they do not get along.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12281823

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      Did Hansen mention he was 0-3 against NZ as the Welsh coach too? 🤣

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        Jamie Joseph
        Leon MacDonald
        Clarke Dermody
        Kieran Keane
        Ceri Evans

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        #241

        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

        Jamie Joseph
        Leon MacDonald
        Clarke Dermody
        Kieran Keane
        Ceri Evans

        Is that the same Ceri Evans that played for the All Whites many moons ago?

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

          Jamie Joseph
          Leon MacDonald
          Clarke Dermody
          Kieran Keane
          Ceri Evans

          Is that the same Ceri Evans that played for the All Whites many moons ago?

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          @Higgins Yes.

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          • C Corporal Fern

            I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
            JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
            Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
            Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
            Chur.

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            @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
            JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
            Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
            Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
            Chur.

            Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
              JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
              Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
              Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
              Chur.

              Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

              canefanC Offline
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              @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
              JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
              Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
              Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
              Chur.

              Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

              Nothing like a failed RWC cup bid to cause a relapse and need for group therapy!!

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              • HigginsH Higgins

                @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                Jamie Joseph
                Leon MacDonald
                Clarke Dermody
                Kieran Keane
                Ceri Evans

                Is that the same Ceri Evans that played for the All Whites many moons ago?

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                Chris B.
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                #245

                @Higgins Yeah - natural successor to Gilbert Enoka - and a good Nayland College boy! 🙂

                https://www.noted.co.nz/health/health-psychology/ceri-evans-secret-behind-all-blacks-winning-approach-to-thinking

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
                  JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
                  Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
                  Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
                  Chur.

                  Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

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                  @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
                  JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
                  Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
                  Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
                  Chur.

                  Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

                  Can you check it's not a post that somehow got drafted 18 odd years ago? Someone suggesting we take the England assistant coach just seems familiar.

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                    The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

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                      So when is the (coaching) team announced?

                      With no rugby to distract (yeah yeah Premiership) this is gonna be a long time waiting for this

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        So when is the (coaching) team announced?

                        With no rugby to distract (yeah yeah Premiership) this is gonna be a long time waiting for this

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                        @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        So when is the (coaching) team announced?

                        I think it was mentioned that it would be before Christmas...or was that the team selecting the team?

                        I'm confused. Anyway it should be a Thursday if that helps.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          So when is the (coaching) team announced?

                          I think it was mentioned that it would be before Christmas...or was that the team selecting the team?

                          I'm confused. Anyway it should be a Thursday if that helps.

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                          taniwharugby
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                          #250

                          @Snowy Christmas is a long time to wait for that announcement....51 f@cking days!

                          Guess there will at least be some cricket to worry about!!

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

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                            @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                            I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                            I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                            I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

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                              @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                              I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                              I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                              I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

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                              @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                              I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                              I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                              I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                              JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                                @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                                It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                  I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                  I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                  I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                  JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                                  @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                  I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                  I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                  I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                  JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                                  Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

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                                    @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                    I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                    I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                    I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                    JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                                    Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

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                                    @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                    I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                    I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                    I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                    JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                                    Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

                                    Call it the World League and slowly grow it into that 🙂

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                                      It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

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                                      @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                                      It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

                                      I guess different people have different motivations and different thresholds, but you'd think Jamie's probably gone up a few rungs on Maslow's hierarchy - and the ABs job wouldn't be leaving him a pauper.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                        I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                        I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                        I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                        JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                                        @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                        The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                                        I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                                        I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                                        I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                                        JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                                        Unless he gets assurances it would be wise to take the money

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                                        • raznomoreR raznomore

                                          I went for Joseph and I hope that means we would get Brown as well.

                                          On a side note. I was shocked to see how many people were calling for Foster takeover, in my news feed today. All people I thought knew something about rugby too.:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

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                                          @raznomore said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          I went for Joseph and I hope that means we would get Brown as well.

                                          On a side note. I was shocked to see how many people were calling for Foster takeover, in my news feed today. All people I thought knew something about rugby too.:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

                                          So how many ferners are on your feed?

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