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  • HigginsH Higgins

    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Jamie Joseph
    Leon MacDonald
    Clarke Dermody
    Kieran Keane
    Ceri Evans

    Is that the same Ceri Evans that played for the All Whites many moons ago?

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    @Higgins Yeah - natural successor to Gilbert Enoka - and a good Nayland College boy! 🙂

    https://www.noted.co.nz/health/health-psychology/ceri-evans-secret-behind-all-blacks-winning-approach-to-thinking

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
      JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
      Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
      Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
      Chur.

      Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

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      @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      @Corporal-Fern said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

      I'd like to see a trilogy of Joseph/Foster/Mitchell.
      JJ as head coach;Foster because of the experience he brings(if only to remind us of the mistakes made in the 2019 campaign and the 2011/15 positives) and it's time to forgive Mitch-he has the goods now-especially in defence. No Robertson/Sader dominated team thinking please!
      Out there-I know,but a nice blend.
      Wouldn't say no to Plumtree or Brown either!
      Chur.

      Another blast from the past, this World Cup has certainly been good from hearing from past posters.

      Can you check it's not a post that somehow got drafted 18 odd years ago? Someone suggesting we take the England assistant coach just seems familiar.

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        The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

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          So when is the (coaching) team announced?

          With no rugby to distract (yeah yeah Premiership) this is gonna be a long time waiting for this

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            So when is the (coaching) team announced?

            With no rugby to distract (yeah yeah Premiership) this is gonna be a long time waiting for this

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            @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

            So when is the (coaching) team announced?

            I think it was mentioned that it would be before Christmas...or was that the team selecting the team?

            I'm confused. Anyway it should be a Thursday if that helps.

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            • SnowyS Snowy

              @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

              So when is the (coaching) team announced?

              I think it was mentioned that it would be before Christmas...or was that the team selecting the team?

              I'm confused. Anyway it should be a Thursday if that helps.

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              #250

              @Snowy Christmas is a long time to wait for that announcement....51 f@cking days!

              Guess there will at least be some cricket to worry about!!

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              • canefanC canefan

                The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

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                @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                  I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                  I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                  I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

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                  @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                  I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                  I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                  I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                  JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                    I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                    I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                    I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                    JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                    @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                    It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                      I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                      I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                      I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                      JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                      @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                      The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                      I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                      I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                      I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                      JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                      Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

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                      • M Machpants

                        @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                        I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                        I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                        I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                        JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                        Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

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                        @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                        I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                        I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                        I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                        JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                        Yeah hate that name, like World Champs in USA. Five Nations the Reboot? Holders of 8 World Cups League?

                        Call it the World League and slowly grow it into that 🙂

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                          It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

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                          @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                          It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

                          I guess different people have different motivations and different thresholds, but you'd think Jamie's probably gone up a few rungs on Maslow's hierarchy - and the ABs job wouldn't be leaving him a pauper.

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                            I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                            I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                            I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                            JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

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                            @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @Crucial said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @canefan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            The more I listen the more I think Fozzie could be head coach. He's been in the setup and provides some continuity so we dont lose all we've learned in the last 14 years or so. But he needs quality coaches to run the team, who can provide new ideas and approaches. Robertson and Brown

                            I'm pretty sure that is the approach he is taking. As Shag has explained, his role is simply to manage the other experts in the team, not be the dictator. I think Fozzie has learned enough of those organisational and directional skills that if he was to assemble a team of hands on coaches it would do well.
                            I could see him pitching a 'Director/Manager' role with someone like JJ or Razor as head coach.

                            I'm really not sure if that is enough to lure JJ away from the buckets of Yen that must be being waved under his nose but maybe there is some succession planning as part of it whereby Fozzie runs this WC cycle with his supporting act then taking over.

                            JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan. They'll need him if they are joining the Rugby Championship (man I hope they change that name)

                            Unless he gets assurances it would be wise to take the money

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                            • raznomoreR raznomore

                              I went for Joseph and I hope that means we would get Brown as well.

                              On a side note. I was shocked to see how many people were calling for Foster takeover, in my news feed today. All people I thought knew something about rugby too.:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

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                              @raznomore said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              I went for Joseph and I hope that means we would get Brown as well.

                              On a side note. I was shocked to see how many people were calling for Foster takeover, in my news feed today. All people I thought knew something about rugby too.:face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

                              So how many ferners are on your feed?

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                                It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

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                                @Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                @Kirwan said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                JJ is being offered double his current salary by Japan.

                                It would be interesting to know how much this is in comparison to what the AB coaches are paid. Judging by the Chch house Hansen is selling he did alright.

                                He's got his ponys too, that could be more the money spinner

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                                  https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630585300545546

                                  https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630986884182017

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630585300545546

                                    https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630986884182017

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                                    @Stargazer Yep. He said it didn't feel right for him to float around in three different coaching teams - so he's sticking with Jamie.

                                    Wherever Jamie ends up, Tony's planning on going with him - unless it's Australia - he was very specific about that! 🙂

                                    Other announcement on the Breakdown was that they will announce the Super squads next week.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630585300545546

                                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630986884182017

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                                      @Stargazer said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                      https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1191630986884182017

                                      Let's hope JJ goes for the AB job.

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                                        So Brown isn't coming back to the Highlanders now?

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          So Brown isn't coming back to the Highlanders now?

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                                          @Bovidae Still is, for now.

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