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  • barbarianB barbarian

    @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

    But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

    I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

    I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

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    @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

    I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

    But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

    I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

    I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

    Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

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      @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

      But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

      I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

      I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

      Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

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      @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

      I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk

      But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.

      I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.

      I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.

      Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".

      happened makes it sound like it was in the past.

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        The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

        The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

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        • rotatedR rotated

          The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

          The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

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          @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

          The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

          The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

          Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

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          • CyclopsC Cyclops

            @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.

            The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.

            Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

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            @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

            Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

            Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

              Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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              @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

              Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

              Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

              Are you questioning their outrage, bro?

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                Reminded me of Brett "beamer" (sorry, it was an accident) Lee.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.

                  French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

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                  @Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                  **It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
                  **
                  French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

                  Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.

                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20415890/curious-case-miandad-lbw-rates

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                    @Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                    **It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
                    **
                    French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.

                    Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.

                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/20415890/curious-case-miandad-lbw-rates

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                    @Number-10 Hyperbole. Seldom was more accurate but that article backs up my point.

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                    • barbarianB barbarian

                      @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                      Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                      Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

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                      @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                      @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                      Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                      Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                      Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                      Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

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                        @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                        Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                        Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                        Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

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                        @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                        Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                        Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                        Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                        Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                        Yeah but he was a chucker?

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                          Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                          Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                          Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                          Yeah but he was a chucker?

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                          @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                          Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                          Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                          Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                          Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                          Yeah but he was a chucker?

                          he looked like a chucker

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                            @NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                            @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                            @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                            @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                            Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.

                            Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?

                            Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.

                            Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.

                            Yeah but he was a chucker?

                            he looked like a chucker

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                            Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                            As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

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                            • barbarianB barbarian

                              Maybe this one too

                              https://twitter.com/robelinda2/status/1199814677372403712

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                              @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                              Maybe this one too

                              https://twitter.com/robelinda2/status/1199814677372403712

                              The arrogance of the commentator...."clasp your helmet all you like son, but look in the paper tomorrow and you'll find you're out LBW"

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                                @barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                Maybe this one too

                                https://twitter.com/robelinda2/status/1199814677372403712

                                The arrogance of the commentator...."clasp your helmet all you like son, but look in the paper tomorrow and you'll find you're out LBW"

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                                @TeWaio said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                The arrogance of the commentator...."clasp your helmet all you like son, but look in the paper tomorrow and you'll find you're out LBW"

                                Greg Chappell true to form.

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                                • Xpat61X Xpat61

                                  Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                                  As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

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                                  @Xpat61 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                  Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                                  As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

                                  Watching that video reminded me of the stark difference in personality between Hadlee and Kane. I can't imagine Kane talking so bluntly about his perfect performance and rattling of records. Not that I think there's anything particularly wrong about what Hadlee was saying, but the difference is pretty stark I think.

                                  Kane really gives the lie to the notion that is succeed as an elite athlete you have to be at least a little bit arrogant, and I love him all the more for that.

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                                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                    @Xpat61 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                                    As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

                                    Watching that video reminded me of the stark difference in personality between Hadlee and Kane. I can't imagine Kane talking so bluntly about his perfect performance and rattling of records. Not that I think there's anything particularly wrong about what Hadlee was saying, but the difference is pretty stark I think.

                                    Kane really gives the lie to the notion that is succeed as an elite athlete you have to be at least a little bit arrogant, and I love him all the more for that.

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                                    @Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    @Xpat61 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                    Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
                                    As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓

                                    Watching that video reminded me of the stark difference in personality between Hadlee and Kane. I can't imagine Kane talking so bluntly about his perfect performance and rattling of records. Not that I think there's anything particularly wrong about what Hadlee was saying, but the difference is pretty stark I think.

                                    Kane really gives the lie to the notion that is succeed as an elite athlete you have to be at least a little bit arrogant, and I love him all the more for that.

                                    Paddles was always openly motivated by records, it’s what drove him. I’m sure there are plenty of other players who are too, maybe they just hide it better.
                                    I’d imagine Kane would have goals too, like the number of test centuries he will finish with etc.

                                    Paddles attitude definitely rubbed people and fellow team mates up the wrong way. To be fair he was one of the few professionals in a team full of amateurs.

                                    Then there was the incident over the car he won later that season..

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                                      Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing

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                                        @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                        Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing

                                        After Paddles rolled them in the first innings Crowe got 188 so they at least had one world class player in each discipline.

                                        I'll take our all-time greats however we get them but Crowe and Paddles were odd ducks for sure and I'm sure their birth certificates needed to be checked on multiple occasions to make sure they weren't born the other side of the ditch (SRH more than Crowe), but it seemed to work for them.

                                        Kane seems to be cut from a different cloth. Whatever cloth they have going in the bay with Peter Burling and Sam Cane.

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                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                          Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing

                                          After Paddles rolled them in the first innings Crowe got 188 so they at least had one world class player in each discipline.

                                          I'll take our all-time greats however we get them but Crowe and Paddles were odd ducks for sure and I'm sure their birth certificates needed to be checked on multiple occasions to make sure they weren't born the other side of the ditch (SRH more than Crowe), but it seemed to work for them.

                                          Kane seems to be cut from a different cloth. Whatever cloth they have going in the bay with Peter Burling and Sam Cane.

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                                          @rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:

                                          Kane seems to be cut from a different cloth. Whatever cloth they have going in the bay with Peter Burling and Sam Cane.

                                          Fark, whatever they do at Tauranga Boys is working, check out the list of sports stars:

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tauranga_Boys'_College#Notable_alumni

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