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'Super Rugby' 2021

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    You guys don't watch most games? Usually I'd watch every game that wasn't played in S.A coz it's on too early, unless the Chiefs are playing then I'll get up.

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    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

      You guys don't watch most games? Usually I'd watch every game that wasn't played in S.A coz it's on too early, unless the Chiefs are playing then I'll get up.

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      @Yeetyaah i wouldn't be married if i watched all the games, i also like to catch some AFL and Football so far too many hours...not married....🤔

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      • SnowyS Snowy

        @KiwiMurph said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

        The Australian newspaper reporting a trans Ta$man comp in 2022 with 5 each from Aus & NZ.

        Great.
        At least 10 games that I won't bother to watch and more than 20 hours that won't be wasted.

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        @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

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          @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

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          @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

          @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

          oh, well, because YOU said it, i guess we better go along with it then

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            @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

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            @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

            @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

            Look at an end goal. A genuinely competitive competition.

            You are moaning just as much about having teams cut - so you can cut out those bullshit comments.

            So what are your suggestions for making ALL of the Aus teams competitive?

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

                oh, well, because YOU said it, i guess we better go along with it then

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                @mariner4life I was merely pointing out that it was never going to happen. I wasn't saying that it shouldnt happen because i think so.

                IMO the only way to bring them up to speed is with patient investment at the base over many years. Likely decades. You could probably make them a little more immediately competitive by investing in player recruitment (i.e. tap Twiggy money) but i don't think a quick fix will have lasting effects.

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  @Snowy Why not try and think of ways of improving the competition outside of forcing Aus to 'cut' teams - which i said from the beginning was never going to happen? or just moan a bunch, i guess.

                  Look at an end goal. A genuinely competitive competition.

                  You are moaning just as much about having teams cut - so you can cut out those bullshit comments.

                  So what are your suggestions for making ALL of the Aus teams competitive?

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                  @Snowy i actually think thats the issue, nz rugby might at least be able to claim trying to achieve a genuinely competitive comp as the goal...but i dont think thats the end goal for RA, they was to grown/spread the sport and they believe more teams will achieve that

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                    @mariner4life I was merely pointing out that it was never going to happen. I wasn't saying that it shouldnt happen because i think so.

                    IMO the only way to bring them up to speed is with patient investment at the base over many years. Likely decades. You could probably make them a little more immediately competitive by investing in player recruitment (i.e. tap Twiggy money) but i don't think a quick fix will have lasting effects.

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                    @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    IMO the only way to bring them up to speed is with patient investment at the base over many years

                    so you mean the exact opposite of the ARU MO?

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                      IMO the only way to bring them up to speed is with patient investment at the base over many years

                      so you mean the exact opposite of the ARU MO?

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                      @mariner4life Yeah, basically.

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                        @mariner4life Yeah, basically.

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                        @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                        @mariner4life Yeah, basically.

                        great, so for all you having a go at snowy, you haven't got much either except a pipe dream about the Force working this time because reasons.

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                          We have to wait a decade or more for a decent comp. I'll watch in 2030 then.

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            We have to wait a decade or more for a decent comp. I'll watch in 2030 then.

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                            @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @mariner4life Yeah, basically.

                              great, so for all you having a go at snowy, you haven't got much either except a pipe dream about the Force working this time because reasons.

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                              @mariner4life man - i never said they'd be good or succeed or anything else. I just said they won't 'cut' a team, specifically the Rebels. They will likely also not accept any comp that doesn't involve the Force if Twiggy is interested.

                              Sure, i don't think that cutting a team would necessarily benefit the other sides. I didn't say it would mean the Rebels or Force would get any better.

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                                @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

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                                @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

                                @Derpus Well, all of the Force's matches, and the Rebel's. Probably some of the others too as they won't be as good with the really good players scattered around a giant country.

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                                  @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

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                                  @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

                                  If only it were that simple. The reality is to make them remotely competitive means parasitically leaching from the good teams, lowering their overall competitiveness. That's the last thing anyone wants.

                                  BTW history has shown @Snowy wouldn't be the only person not watching.

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                                    @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    @Snowy Nah i guess you can just skip the match against the Force if it bothers you so much.

                                    If only it were that simple. The reality is to make them remotely competitive means parasitically leaching from the good teams, lowering their overall competitiveness. That's the last thing anyone wants.

                                    BTW history has shown @Snowy wouldn't be the only person not watching.

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                                    @antipodean

                                    Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

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                                      @antipodean

                                      Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

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                                      @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      @antipodean

                                      Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

                                      jesus could you have just a bit more of a whine.

                                      It's hardly a bullying attitude that a lot of people would prefer a comp without an ordinary, not to standard team in a timezone another 2 hours past even the East coast of Australia, that is a 6 hour flight from NZ. Especially if that team was already cut because they offered fuck all, and was only "brought back" because you had no one else to play.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @antipodean

                                        Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

                                        jesus could you have just a bit more of a whine.

                                        It's hardly a bullying attitude that a lot of people would prefer a comp without an ordinary, not to standard team in a timezone another 2 hours past even the East coast of Australia, that is a 6 hour flight from NZ. Especially if that team was already cut because they offered fuck all, and was only "brought back" because you had no one else to play.

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                                        @mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @antipodean

                                        Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

                                        jesus could you have just a bit more of a whine.

                                        To be fair, the last 20 pages of this thread has mainly been whining on all sides.

                                        Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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                                        • barbarianB barbarian

                                          @mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @antipodean

                                          Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

                                          jesus could you have just a bit more of a whine.

                                          To be fair, the last 20 pages of this thread has mainly been whining on all sides.

                                          Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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                                          @barbarian said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @mariner4life said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @Derpus said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                          @antipodean

                                          Guess it's all fucked and we should watch some loige then

                                          jesus could you have just a bit more of a whine.

                                          To be fair, the last 20 pages of this thread has mainly been whining on all sides.

                                          Not that there's anything wrong with that.

                                          of course, because both sides of the Ta$man want different things, and are at different points

                                          and, worst of all, are too poor to do it alone.

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