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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #141

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300047093/nz-rugbys-brent-impey-keeps-door-open-to-more-kiwi-super-rugby-teams-for-2021

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      #142

      The return of the Central Vikings is imminent!

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        The return of the Central Vikings is imminent!

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        @Yeetyaah said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

        The return of the Central Vikings is imminent!

        adidas are out sourcing orange material as we speak

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        • YeetyaahY Offline
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          #144

          On the real though, fuck no I don't want more NZ Super teams.

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          • DuluthD Offline
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            #145

            8 SR teams?

            They might as well go to 10 NPC teams and have a single competition. Everyone plays everyone home and away

            4 teams to drop to heartland or merge with a larger team

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              8 SR teams?

              They might as well go to 10 NPC teams and have a single competition. Everyone plays everyone home and away

              4 teams to drop to heartland or merge with a larger team

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              #146

              @Duluth said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

              8 SR teams?

              They might as well go to 10 NPC teams and have a single competition. Everyone plays everyone home and away

              4 teams to drop to heartland or merge with a larger team

              Also this would make the Ranfurly Shield important again

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                8 SR teams?

                They might as well go to 10 NPC teams and have a single competition. Everyone plays everyone home and away

                4 teams to drop to heartland or merge with a larger team

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                #147

                @Duluth said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                8 SR teams?

                They might as well go to 10 NPC teams and have a single competition. Everyone plays everyone home and away

                4 teams to drop to heartland or merge with a larger team

                Bye bye Northland Southland Hawkes Bay and Ta$man

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                • StargazerS Offline
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                  #148

                  We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                  Oh, and hands off the NPC. No provinces to be dropped to Heartland.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                    Oh, and hands off the NPC. No provinces to be dropped to Heartland.

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                    #149

                    @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                    We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                    Oh, and hands off the NPC.

                    The NPC is essentially dead (Despite a few "Ultra-fans")

                    This is the best opportunity to move forward and bury it but be able to keep the Ranfurly Shield in operation.

                    If we had 8 SR teams and it was only played between NZ teams as it is now, it would be a good comp. Bettter than a pokey 5 team comp as it stands.

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                      We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                      Oh, and hands off the NPC.

                      The NPC is essentially dead (Despite a few "Ultra-fans")

                      This is the best opportunity to move forward and bury it but be able to keep the Ranfurly Shield in operation.

                      If we had 8 SR teams and it was only played between NZ teams as it is now, it would be a good comp. Bettter than a pokey 5 team comp as it stands.

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                      @Hooroo It won't generate enough income to replace SR though.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Hooroo It won't generate enough income to replace SR though.

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                        #151

                        @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                        @Hooroo It won't generate enough income to replace SR though.

                        That comparison may no longer be valid

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Hooroo It won't generate enough income to replace SR though.

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                          Hooroo
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                          #152

                          @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                          @Hooroo It won't generate enough income to replace SR though.

                          Absolutely agree but it may be the new way.

                          I can't see Super Rugby being the same again now that SA is pretty much pulling pin.

                          At best it may be a ANZ comp

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                            Oh, and hands off the NPC. No provinces to be dropped to Heartland.

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                            #153

                            @Stargazer said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                            We don't have the depth for 6 teams at the moment. If fewer players leave for overseas clubs over the next few years, we may have enough for 6 teams, but not now. More than 6 is riduculous.

                            Oh, and hands off the NPC. No provinces to be dropped to Heartland.

                            A counter argument would be that in a trans Ta$man comp - making the NZ teams weaker might make the comp more competitive.

                            I think the real issue with the 6th NZ team is the $ funding it/making it financially viable.

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                              Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                              Current 5

                              Plus

                              Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                              Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                              Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                              If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                                Current 5

                                Plus

                                Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                                Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                                If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

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                                wrote on last edited by Rapido
                                #155

                                @gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                                Current 5

                                Plus

                                Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                                Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                                If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

                                Bays is actually quite a good name. For a tricky divide. Hawkes Bay is the hardest to incorporate.

                                • North Auckland (revive the historic name)
                                • Bays (BOP. Poverty Bay, East Coast, Hawkes Bay
                                • Lower North Island (or LNI) - (Taranaki, Wanganui, Manawatu)

                                Hurricanes retain Howowhenua and Wairarapa in their franchise catchment.
                                Chiefs retain Thames Valley and King Country, but loose Counties.

                                Blues, Chiefs, Hurricances, Highlanders, Crusaders - regain their original georgraphical monikers.

                                Big stuffs to Southlanders and Tasmaners moaning about their names. Southlanders have put up with in cricket for a century ....

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                                • RapidoR Rapido

                                  @gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                                  Current 5

                                  Plus

                                  Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                                  Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                  Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                                  If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

                                  Bays is actually quite a good name. For a tricky divide. Hawkes Bay is the hardest to incorporate.

                                  • North Auckland (revive the historic name)
                                  • Bays (BOP. Poverty Bay, East Coast, Hawkes Bay
                                  • Lower North Island (or LNI) - (Taranaki, Wanganui, Manawatu)

                                  Hurricanes retain Howowhenua and Wairarapa in their franchise catchment.
                                  Chiefs retain Thames Valley and King Country, but loose Counties.

                                  Blues, Chiefs, Hurricances, Highlanders, Crusaders - regain their original georgraphical monikers.

                                  Big stuffs to Southlanders and Tasmaners moaning about their names. Southlanders have put up with in cricket for a century ....

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                                  #156

                                  @Rapido

                                  I like it that the fanciest name you can come up for the NZ’s forgotten lands is LNI; that’s an exciting name for a franchise 🙂

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    @gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                                    Current 5

                                    Plus

                                    Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                                    Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                    Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                                    If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

                                    Bays is actually quite a good name. For a tricky divide. Hawkes Bay is the hardest to incorporate.

                                    • North Auckland (revive the historic name)
                                    • Bays (BOP. Poverty Bay, East Coast, Hawkes Bay
                                    • Lower North Island (or LNI) - (Taranaki, Wanganui, Manawatu)

                                    Hurricanes retain Howowhenua and Wairarapa in their franchise catchment.
                                    Chiefs retain Thames Valley and King Country, but loose Counties.

                                    Blues, Chiefs, Hurricances, Highlanders, Crusaders - regain their original georgraphical monikers.

                                    Big stuffs to Southlanders and Tasmaners moaning about their names. Southlanders have put up with in cricket for a century ....

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    #157

                                    @Rapido said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    Chiefs retain Thames Valley and King Country, but loose Counties.

                                    Auckland has a large enough player pool to stand on its own so Counties and Waikato should stay together.

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Offline
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                                      #158

                                      "Southerns" sounds better to me, ive kind of got over the "creative" franchise names to be honest, hence my avatar, a combo of Otago and southland logos

                                      real simple summary of my thoughts, i'd like a more simple comp and so making the existing unions fully profession makes sense to me...

                                      But i understand its not as easy as that and so will accept almost anything as long as there is some logic and inclusion of the smaller unions in it, away jerseys being one of the other unions colours for example

                                      Using the Highlanders as an example, Gold is a common colour between Otago, North otago and Southland so maybe we should have used it more

                                      i follow Otago boy high, Dunedin RFC, Otago, Highlanders and obviously the AB's...when ive had to explain that to people in the UK or Aus and how there is very little connection between those all anymore it makes me realise the system is a bit broke and we should try and align things a bit more

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        Just for fun, if there were 8 teams, what would they be?

                                        Current 5

                                        Plus

                                        Taniwha (Northland/NH plays at Albany)

                                        Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                        Cowpokes (Taranaki/Manawatu plays at New Plymouth)

                                        If it were only one in an ANZ competition, I imagine that a team based in Labany would be easiest.

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                                        Nepia
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                                        #159

                                        @gt12 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        Bays (Bay/Hawkes plays at Tauranga)

                                        alt text

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                                          We don’t have the depth to dilute the current 5 teams and maintain the high performance he talks about in that article. Introducing more teams will be a disaster. Poorer quality in the name of expansion does not make for a more entertaining product. We saw that with the endless expansion of super rugby.

                                          If the saffa’s are gone and a NZ only comp is not an option then an ANZ comp with the quality of teams kept as high as possible is the only option.

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