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  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

    Is it official that the SA SR sides have left the comp in order to supposedly join the comp in the NH???
    Well good luck with that Because there is bugger all rigby being played here currently - and not even a sniff of it being resumed on the horizon.
    Boris Johnson says large porting events with crowds can go ahead from November. Well I don't know what sport he is referring to - but it certainly won't be the likes of England v All Blacks. All vwery very quiet on the rugby front up here

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    @Jailbreak7 Not at all. NZR has left the SR comp and, as pointed out by head of SARU, may well be liable for breaking contact next season. Obviously Force Majuere (sp?) Applies this year, may do next?

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    • TimT Tim

      @mikey07 Those are the Australian viewing figures only, not total.

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      @Tim Yeah I know it is but do you smell a rat with those viewing figures or am I just a conspiracy theorist.

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        @Tim Yeah I know it is but do you smell a rat with those viewing figures or am I just a conspiracy theorist.

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        @mikey07 I really don't know mate.

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        • M Machpants

          @Jailbreak7 Not at all. NZR has left the SR comp and, as pointed out by head of SARU, may well be liable for breaking contact next season. Obviously Force Majuere (sp?) Applies this year, may do next?

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          @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

          @Jailbreak7 Not at all. NZR has left the SR comp and, as pointed out by head of SARU, may well be liable for breaking contact next season. Obviously Force Majuere (sp?) Applies this year, may do next?

          Good luck winning that in court with a pandemic in progress.

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          • M Machpants

            @Jailbreak7 Not at all. NZR has left the SR comp and, as pointed out by head of SARU, may well be liable for breaking contact next season. Obviously Force Majuere (sp?) Applies this year, may do next?

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            @Machpants said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

            @Jailbreak7 Not at all. NZR has left the SR comp and, as pointed out by head of SARU, may well be liable for breaking contact next season. Obviously Force Majuere (sp?) Applies this year, may do next?

            I thought the existing Super rugby format had one year to run, hence one last year of the stupid fucking conference system. Then next year it was going to be a “new” format. Maybe the new format/partnership hadn’t been formally create yet?

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              Screenshot_2020-07-26-19-02-03-86.jpg

              Supposed "leak"

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              @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

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              • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                Is it official that the SA SR sides have left the comp in order to supposedly join the comp in the NH???
                Well good luck with that Because there is bugger all rigby being played here currently - and not even a sniff of it being resumed on the horizon.
                Boris Johnson says large porting events with crowds can go ahead from November. Well I don't know what sport he is referring to - but it certainly won't be the likes of England v All Blacks. All vwery very quiet on the rugby front up here

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                @Jailbreak7 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                Is it official that the SA SR sides have left the comp in order to supposedly join the comp in the NH???
                Well good luck with that Because there is bugger all rigby being played here currently - and not even a sniff of it being resumed on the horizon.
                Boris Johnson says large porting events with crowds can go ahead from November. Well I don't know what sport he is referring to - but it certainly won't be the likes of England v All Blacks. All vwery very quiet on the rugby front up here

                Premiership Rugby recommences on 15th August without spectators.

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                • GodderG Godder

                  @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

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                  @Godder said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                  @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

                  Which 8 teams? Can't see it happening.

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                    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/exclusive-nz-rugby-tables-three-draft-options-new-professional-competition-replace-super-in-2021?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

                    What about 9x8x2x0.5 + 3 = 75?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/exclusive-nz-rugby-tables-three-draft-options-new-professional-competition-replace-super-in-2021?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

                      What about 9x8x2x0.5 + 3 = 75?

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                      @Tim said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/exclusive-nz-rugby-tables-three-draft-options-new-professional-competition-replace-super-in-2021?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

                      What about 9x8x2x0.5 + 3 = 75?

                      I'm no mathematician, but this part of the code looked superfluous... "x2x0.5"... So I've taken the liberty of simplifying the equation to "9 x 8 + 3 = 75"

                      I'm so smart, person, man, camera etc

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                      • GodderG Godder

                        @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

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                        @Godder said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                        @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

                        Not going to happen. The Aussies probably won't even agree to 4 teams, there's no way they will agree to only 2 teams.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          I have no problem basing a PI team in Auckland as it has many advantages over the team being in Suva, for example. The most obvious being the costs required for travel and logistical challenges in the islands. There are also a large number of PI players outside of Auckland, so limiting your player pool to only one city is a stupid move.

                          The other important point is that if Kanaloa Hawai’i is 100% funding this team then it is similar to Forrest and the Force in Aust. You add a team to your competition at no cost to the home RU. NZR aren't going to ignore that possibility.

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                          @Bovidae said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                          I have no problem basing a PI team in Auckland as it has many advantages over the team being in Suva, for example. The most obvious being the costs required for travel and logistical challenges in the islands. There are also a large number of PI players outside of Auckland, so limiting your player pool to only one city is a stupid move.

                          The other important point is that if Kanaloa Hawai’i is 100% funding this team then it is similar to Forrest and the Force in Aust. You add a team to your competition at no cost to the home RU. NZR aren't going to ignore that possibility.

                          Aren't the Blues a PI team based in Auckland? They have always had PI players in there. I'm not really sure who would play for the team. Most PI players in NZ already have contracts with the NZRU so can't just join a new team at the drop of a hat. If you introduced them for next season, they would mostly be Super Rugby rejects and maybe the odd player coming back from overseas.

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                            Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                            Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                            Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

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                              @Godder said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

                              Not going to happen. The Aussies probably won't even agree to 4 teams, there's no way they will agree to only 2 teams.

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                              @akan004 said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @Godder said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                              @Yeetyaah That 8 team structure looks ideal. Stuff the 10 team BS, all play all twice has much better competition integrity.

                              Not going to happen. The Aussies probably won't even agree to 4 teams, there's no way they will agree to only 2 teams.

                              Yes, if NZR are serious about an 8 team option then they need to be looking at three non-Australian teams. Japan, a PI team and someone else. Maybe the Jaguares? All three options are potentially risky in these uncertain COVID times.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/exclusive-nz-rugby-tables-three-draft-options-new-professional-competition-replace-super-in-2021?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

                                What about 9x8x2x0.5 + 3 = 75?

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                                @Tim said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/exclusive-nz-rugby-tables-three-draft-options-new-professional-competition-replace-super-in-2021?autoplay=1&auto_play=true

                                What about 9x8x2x0.5 + 3 = 75?

                                @sumostevenson has got some fab Sauces clearly.

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                                • pukunuiP pukunui

                                  Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                  Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                  Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

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                                  @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                  Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                  Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                  Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                  Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                    Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                    Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                    Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

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                                    pukunui
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                                    @sparky said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                    Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                    Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                    Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                    Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

                                    You would think it would have to be viable if they are looking at it as an option.

                                    Some teams playing other teams more often than others is a joke though.

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                                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                                      @sparky said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                      Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                      Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                      Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                      Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

                                      You would think it would have to be viable if they are looking at it as an option.

                                      Some teams playing other teams more often than others is a joke though.

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                                      @pukunui Rugby Australia rejected a 8 team competition straight away so did the finanicial backers of NZ Rugby. Realistically a 8 team competition would involve NZ giving up a franchise. Not sure Chiefs fans or Highlanders fans would like that much.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                        Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                        Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                        Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

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                                        @sparky said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        @pukunui said in 'Super Rugby' 2021:

                                        Those 10 team comp options are terrible.
                                        Why can’t they get it through their heads that a simple, logical and non biased comp is what people want to see.

                                        Not playing the same teams an equal amount of times was one of the major flaws of the failed Super rugby expansion comps. Fuck. This is going to be a disaster.

                                        Can't see a 8 team competition being financially viable. A 10 or 12 team competition looks more realistic.

                                        Only way an 8 team comp would be viable is with a home & away format 14 regular season games with a bye week attached = 15 week season with 2 weeks added for SF + Grand Final

                                        Start season in March 2021 with Grand Final in Mid June 2021

                                        Moreover the original revamped Super Rugby was to have 14 teams play in a round robin format = 13 games

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                                          almost punched my comp when i read some teams twice and others once....thats some of the shit people got so annoyed with the conferences, someone will get tot he playoff without playing the saders and (currently) blues twice and the complaining will start

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