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AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @MN5 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

    I had to google images just to know what he looks like.

    Bro, does he even lift ?

    Mr Strange = The New Samonsite.

    He has played 32 times for the Crusaders. Been part of their Super Squad since 2017 and has won four titles. Quietly moved above Luke Romeo in the Crusader Lock pecking order. Does his job well. Tackles. Carries a bit. Calls lineout moved sometimes.

    Future AB captain material right there....

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    @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

    He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

    I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

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      @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

      He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

      I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

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      @sparky said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

      @ACT-Crusader You can imagine this squad all getting on the Team Bus and some of the Blues guys looking at Quinten Strange and thinking "Who's that?"

      He has won a crazy amount of silverware for a guy who is 24.

      I assume he is the first AB named Quinten.

      I’d imagine some of the Crusaders players asking Clarke, “you made the ABs and you didn’t blonde your hair?”

      😎

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        Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

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          https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

          Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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            Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

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            @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

            Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

            I think he has a fair bit to develop as a centre, but I see a few things in his game that remind me of a former SW centre.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

              Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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              @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

              https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

              Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

              O for awesome. Bit of a lump in the old throat watching that.
              Amazing rise for the young fella.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                Likewise I'm unconvinced on Ennor as a centre. Was a great winger but doesn't appear to be a standout centre, "all the tools" though so hopefully can prove me wrong. Would be great to have two swift centres to choose from.

                I think he has a fair bit to develop as a centre, but I see a few things in his game that remind me of a former SW centre.

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                @ACT-Crusader SW?

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                  So I see 8 U20 locks between 2016 and now with genuine height (1.99m or more) and only three of them are playing Super Rugby. There are a lot of guys on that list who are well under-sized. Around half of the 18 are 1.95 or less. Some of them may be flankers covering lock, but this is exactly the issue.

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                    https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                    Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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                    @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                    https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                    Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

                    I was going to say something a bit uncharitable about his selection but after that I wish him all the best and hope he makes a really good go of it

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                      So I see 8 U20 locks between 2016 and now with genuine height (1.99m or more) and only three of them are playing Super Rugby. There are a lot of guys on that list who are well under-sized. Around half of the 18 are 1.95 or less. Some of them may be flankers covering lock, but this is exactly the issue.

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                      @shark said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                      So I see 8 U20 locks between 2016 and now with genuine height (1.99m or more) and only three of them are playing Super Rugby. There are a lot of guys on that list who are well under-sized. Around half of the 18 are 1.95 or less. Some of them may be flankers covering lock, but this is exactly the issue.

                      It seems that a lot of Super coaches are happy to take the easy way out and play undersized locks or converted sixes who can "keep up" with the speed of the game rather than develop some of the young tall timber. Also, you look at the coaching rosters around the country and you don't see a whole lot of ex-locks who can mentor guys with the physical gifts and help them become international quality locks

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @ACT-Crusader SW?

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                        @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                        @ACT-Crusader SW?

                        Skinny white

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                          @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                          Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

                          I was going to say something a bit uncharitable about his selection but after that I wish him all the best and hope he makes a really good go of it

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                          @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                          https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                          Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

                          I was going to say something a bit uncharitable about his selection but after that I wish him all the best and hope he makes a really good go of it

                          Surely not you @junior to write something critical and disparaging 🎣

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                            Well he's not a Crusaders player, so I suppose he can escape criticism from me on that basis alone

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

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                              @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                              What is it that people see in Strange? I'm pretty unconvinced eh.

                              Key member of the Ta$man pack that dominated every other forward pack in the country in last year's NPC. 🙂

                              Now, if Retallick, Barrett, Dickson and Parkinson were all available, it's fair to say Quentin might have had to bide his time, but they're not, so he's quite likely the best of the rest.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                                Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

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                                @Kirwan said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                https://reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/inh2rq/tupou_vaai_telling_his_family_he_made_the_all/

                                Love seeing what it means to the players and their families

                                Fucken tear to my eye!

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                                  Can't really argue with forward selections.

                                  Aumua needs to learn to throw.

                                  Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

                                  Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

                                  Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

                                  In backs all the usual suspects.

                                  Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

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                                  @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                  Can't really argue with forward selections.

                                  Aumua needs to learn to throw.

                                  Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

                                  Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

                                  Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

                                  In backs all the usual suspects.

                                  Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362043&&ref=recommended

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                                    @pakman said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

                                    Can't really argue with forward selections.

                                    Aumua needs to learn to throw.

                                    Lomax and Hodgman form justifes third stringer selection.

                                    Tyro locks reflect injuries. From full deck would have been Barrett and Parkinson for me.

                                    Loosies reflect focus on go forward. Hunt/Boshier/Christie lost out from that decision.

                                    In backs all the usual suspects.

                                    Thought PUV might have done enough. I prefer ALB 12/Goodhue 13 to vice versa.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12362043&&ref=recommended

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                                    Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                                    Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                                    Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

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                                      Sparky's 23 to take on Whoever:

                                      Moody, Taylor, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulotu, Frizell, Cane (c), Sotutu, A. Smith, Mo'unga, C. Clarke, ALB, R. Ioane, Jordan, J. Barrett

                                      Coles, Hodgman, Ofa T, Strange or Grace, A. Savea, TJP, B. Barrett, Goodhue

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                                      @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

                                      Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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                                        @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

                                        Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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                                        @Bones Hodgman Vs Karl T. Not much in that but slightly prefer the taller Hodgman for lineout lifting and carrying.

                                        Reiko Ioane Vs Jack Goodhue. Not much in that either. Ioane more of an attacking threat this year, but possibly no longer has the top-end speed for a starting 11. Goodhue better at 13 than 12. Both will feature, I'm sure.

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                                          @sparky Hodgman over Tuinukuafe? Why's that?

                                          Goodhue to start and Karl on the bench and I'm convinced.

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                                          @Bones I'd probably go Hodgman over Tu'inukuafe as well if it's for a bench spot. If it was for a starting spot I'd go for Tu'inukuafe but Hodgman is better around the field and his scrummaging is more than good enough.

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