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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    so, saw an interesting question

    Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

    At first i laughed, and then

    Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

    Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

    The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

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    @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

    so, saw an interesting question

    Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

    At first i laughed, and then

    Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

    Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

    The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

    Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      so, saw an interesting question

      Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

      At first i laughed, and then

      Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

      Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

      The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

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      @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

      The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

      Probably.

      You need a fair bit of luck to get there. Even Brady last year needed that - the Green Bay game was really touch and go.

      But yeah, take Brady out and it's on. that said, with the talent comign through, some will get a couple of cracks.

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      • canefanC canefan

        @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        so, saw an interesting question

        Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

        At first i laughed, and then

        Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

        Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

        The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

        Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

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        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

        so, saw an interesting question

        Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

        At first i laughed, and then

        Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

        Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

        The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

        Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

        dd9f2f7f-ba47-41c2-a9bd-0f8aa0a4a7ad-image.png

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          so, saw an interesting question

          Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

          At first i laughed, and then

          Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

          Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

          The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

          Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

          dd9f2f7f-ba47-41c2-a9bd-0f8aa0a4a7ad-image.png

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          @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

          so, saw an interesting question

          Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

          At first i laughed, and then

          Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

          Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

          The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

          Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

          dd9f2f7f-ba47-41c2-a9bd-0f8aa0a4a7ad-image.png

          absolute class from both of them

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            so, saw an interesting question

            Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?

            At first i laughed, and then

            Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly

            Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.

            The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.

            Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back

            dd9f2f7f-ba47-41c2-a9bd-0f8aa0a4a7ad-image.png

            absolute class from both of them

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            @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

            absolute class from both of them

            Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              absolute class from both of them

              Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)

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              @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

              absolute class from both of them

              Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)

              I'm cool either way

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                absolute class from both of them

                Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)

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                @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                @mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                absolute class from both of them

                Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)

                They seem like pretty nice guys. Bound to be real

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                  And yet Eli Manning has two rings.

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                  • CyclopsC Cyclops

                    And yet Eli Manning has two rings.

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                    @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                    And yet Eli Manning has two rings.

                    and one of them the most unlikely SB win in my time watching.

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                      Eli owns Tom in SBs.

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        And yet Eli Manning has two rings.

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                        @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                        And yet Eli Manning has two rings.

                        Sometimes life ain't fair

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                          Russell Wilson to the broncos.

                          Broncos send Seattle Lock, Fant, Shelby Harris, 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a 5th. Plus they get a 4th back from Seattle.

                          That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane. Broncos probably will be the happier of the two, you have to feel that this is at least partially Wilson forcing his way out and dropping his price. As a comparison Seattle paid 2 firsts and change for Jamal Adams a couple of years ago, and Adams was more vocally unhappy at the time than Wilson. Two extra seconds are significant and maybe the Seahawks wanted sooner draft picks rather than holding out for a 3rd first.

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                          • CyclopsC Cyclops

                            Russell Wilson to the broncos.

                            Broncos send Seattle Lock, Fant, Shelby Harris, 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a 5th. Plus they get a 4th back from Seattle.

                            That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane. Broncos probably will be the happier of the two, you have to feel that this is at least partially Wilson forcing his way out and dropping his price. As a comparison Seattle paid 2 firsts and change for Jamal Adams a couple of years ago, and Adams was more vocally unhappy at the time than Wilson. Two extra seconds are significant and maybe the Seahawks wanted sooner draft picks rather than holding out for a 3rd first.

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                            @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                            Russell Wilson to the broncos.
                            That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.

                            I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.

                            Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think

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                              @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              Russell Wilson to the broncos.
                              That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.

                              I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.

                              Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think

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                              @nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                              Russell Wilson to the broncos.
                              That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.

                              I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.

                              Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think

                              Yep I'm interested to see how he goes, he's coming off a bit of a down year but I'm expecting the new surroundings and a pretty talented Broncos roster to help him bounce back.

                              I wonder if Miller comes back to the Broncos now.

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                                https://twitter.com/Broncos/status/1501269029771689991

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                                  Quite the group of QBs in the AFC West

                                  Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson and presumably Carr (he needs a new deal but I can't see Raiders going elsewhere)

                                  As he was a tormenter of the 49ers his whole career i'm glad to see Wilson out of the NFC.

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                                    Quite the group of QBs in the AFC West

                                    Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson and presumably Carr (he needs a new deal but I can't see Raiders going elsewhere)

                                    As he was a tormenter of the 49ers his whole career i'm glad to see Wilson out of the NFC.

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                                    @kiwimurph

                                    And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

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                                    • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                      @kiwimurph

                                      And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

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                                      @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                      @kiwimurph

                                      And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

                                      The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass

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                                        @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                        @kiwimurph

                                        And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

                                        The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass

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                                        @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                        @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                        @kiwimurph

                                        And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

                                        The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass

                                        The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.

                                        If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.

                                        You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.

                                        It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @kiwimurph

                                          And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

                                          The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass

                                          The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.

                                          If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.

                                          You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.

                                          It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.

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                                          @kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:

                                          @kiwimurph

                                          And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.

                                          The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass

                                          The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.

                                          If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.

                                          You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.

                                          It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.

                                          I don't know how far along Trey is. It would be ideal if he was at a point where he could start. Shanahan's offense is good for a less than stellar or a young QB because it is so run orientated. If he has the arm and accuracy he could provide a vertical threat that Jimmy didn't and that leaves all that money to spend on the team if they move Jimmy G. The pipe dream is Brady coming back to his home town for one season, don't know how much he would cost though and even if he can just move (I don't know if he was under contract at Tampa for 2023)

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