Lying on your resume
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@JC said in Lying on your resume:
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@taniwharugby said in Lying on your resume:
my level of excel for my job is pretty advanced, but in my old job my boss is/was an accountant and man some of the magic he could do with excel!!
spot on, but by god it's uncheckable, and god forbid fixing it if anything breaks. Excel has a low barrier to entry, which is both a massive strength and weakness.
Of course nobody ever documents what they’ve built.
And independent testing for even mission-critical applications? Gimmeabreak. You’d never accept a professional developer saying they’ve just built something, trust me it’s fine, I tested it myself. But a 20 year old office jockey has put together a spreadsheet that may determine the future of your business? Sure, seems legit, put that baby live.
It’s called job security Keep me in as I’m the only one that knows how this shit works.
Actually that’s not always the case. I picked up a complicated reporting tool from one guy that I embellished even more and passed on to my replacement who has run it and enhanced further.
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@MajorRage I’m managing a project where the developers are in house at an tech organisation that is a subsidiary of the client and the nominal owner of the system we have to change. They know nothing about the client’s core business and have BAs who think they know best without ever asking questions. Everything is framed in terms of what’s easiest to achieve on their platform rather than the right solution for the requirements. So I’m using an external BA who I trust. She is awesome. A great BA is worth their weight in gold.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
It was fascinating to watch the people who usually made a lot of noise energetically flapped about their pet projects, looking lost when there were no surprises or panics for them to get their adrenaline fix.
I fucking hate those fluffybunnies. They get recognition for "always being available" or "responding quickly" to their own fuckups.
I get the work done after spending a lot of time planning it in my head. I comment all my code, and I leave breadcrumbs for idiots to follow. The fact that I get this done while looking like I'm doing nothing rather than screeching loudly about my busy day appears to be a negative.
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And ubernerds are the fucking worst. I once physically threatened a guy who wrote elegant but obtuse code with no logging and no comments because I knew - as a 22yo AWS whiz - he would be gone in 6 months and it would be my shitpile to look after.
He went in 7.
A good BA is great. But you can highlight the risks all you want to the business, and if they're going to press ahead with unrealistic timelines for an off-the-shelf product that they customise to shit because the platform salesman doesn't give a fuck about anything but his bonus, well...
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@Crucial said in Lying on your resume:
It’s called job security Keep me in as I’m the only one that knows how this shit works.
Or where the bodies are buried.
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@NTA said in Lying on your resume:
And ubernerds are the fucking worst. I once physically threatened a guy who wrote elegant but obtuse code with no logging and no comments because I knew - as a 22yo AWS whiz - he would be gone in 6 months and it would be my shitpile to look after.
He went in 7.
A good BA is great. But you can highlight the risks all you want to the business, and if they're going to press ahead with unrealistic timelines for an off-the-shelf product that they customise to shit because the platform salesman doesn't give a fuck about anything but his bonus, well...
Hey come on now.....us sales folk are only as good as our support people
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@Nepia said in Lying on your resume:
@Bones said in Lying on your resume:
@Nepia said in Lying on your resume:
I have a formula book
Oh yeah because INTERNET!
Love the idea of you sitting at work and having to do some excel bits - "ohhhh nooooo....I left my formula book at hommme"
Well it's a PDF where I know the pages of the stuff I need.
I simply kept copies of spreadsheets so I could reverse engineer what I'd done previously
ifwhen I invariably forgot.The only time I didn't was when I set up a proof of concept for funding a government department. They decided the spreadsheet worked so well they didn't bother progressing developing a dedicated system. About a year after I left I got a phone call asking me to help fix it after one of them decided to make enhancements.
"Oh so you're over a barrel? Here's my daily rate."
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@NTA said in Lying on your resume:
I fucking hate those fluffybunnies. They get recognition for "always being available" or "responding quickly" to their own fuckups.
I worked for one loud prick whose sole man-management technique was to rush down the office, muttering about "project failures" and throw a printed email on my desk, demanding to know what I was going to do with it.
Fuck knows how I resisted the temptation to state the obvious.
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@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
Hey come on now.....us sales folk are only as good as our support people
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@JC said in Lying on your resume:
@MajorRage I’m managing a project where the developers are in house at an tech organisation that is a subsidiary of the client and the nominal owner of the system we have to change. They know nothing about the client’s core business and have BAs who think they know best without ever asking questions. Everything is framed in terms of what’s easiest to achieve on their platform rather than the right solution for the requirements. So I’m using an external BA who I trust. She is awesome. A great BA is worth their weight in gold.
Absolutely understand. The product we are building has been bastardised completely to work with the in-house system because they in-house guys are literally too old or useless to adapt in any way, shape or form.
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@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
@NTA said in Lying on your resume:
And ubernerds are the fucking worst. I once physically threatened a guy who wrote elegant but obtuse code with no logging and no comments because I knew - as a 22yo AWS whiz - he would be gone in 6 months and it would be my shitpile to look after.
He went in 7.
A good BA is great. But you can highlight the risks all you want to the business, and if they're going to press ahead with unrealistic timelines for an off-the-shelf product that they customise to shit because the platform salesman doesn't give a fuck about anything but his bonus, well...
Hey come on now.....us sales folk are only as good as our support people
It's a pity your support people that you sell don't actually exist.
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@Bones said in Lying on your resume:
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A perfect example. We have a form in our software with a drop down button called "Action". How many actions can you perform on the drop down? One.
Yes. Our excel wankpots are very good at this. My favourite though had a binary response rather than the more usual single option. The two options were Y (yes) or N (no). To make things even more understandable the column heading gave both options too.
This on a spreadsheet that advisory and admin would need to input hundreds of times a day...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
Hey come on now.....us sales folk are only as good as our support people
Eerie how accurate this is. Reminds me of my time selling phone systems, I did remarkably well considering I didn’t know the difference between analogue and digital for months. I ordered the wrong handsets which were incompatible and then blamed an imaginary PA for fucking things up.
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@Catogrande they did one a couple of weeks ago, to allow users to add/delete lookup values to tables.
- Select value.
- Click "Delete"
- "Would you like to delete value?"
- Click "Yes"
- "You can't delete value xyz because of 123"
Why the fuck didn't you say that before I clicked yes!
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@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
Reminds me of my time selling phone systems, I did remarkably well considering I didn’t know the difference between analogue and digital for months
I used to install networks and phone systems.
I've met people like you.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
Reminds me of my time selling phone systems, I did remarkably well considering I didn’t know the difference between analogue and digital for months
I used to install networks and phone systems.
I've met people like you.
To their credit work admitted their colossal fuck up, realised I needed training and my bluster and bullshit could only go so far.
It had a cord and it plugged in fine, what do you mean it’s not compatible ?
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@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
To their credit work admitted their colossal fuck up, realised I needed training and my bluster and bullshit could only go so far.
So your CV now reads: "Ability to identify and assess problems in a pragmatic and time-bound manner, building stakeholder engagement to ensure successful resolution" ?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
To their credit work admitted their colossal fuck up, realised I needed training and my bluster and bullshit could only go so far.
So your CV now reads: "Ability to identify and assess problems in a pragmatic and time-bound manner, building stakeholder engagement to ensure successful resolution" ?
No but I will definitely pinch that.
I think the closest I have to that is that ‘I’m a real team player with a can do attitude’
Fucken hell @Bones, even my sales cliches are trapped in the 90s.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
@NTA said in Lying on your resume:
I fucking hate those fluffybunnies. They get recognition for "always being available" or "responding quickly" to their own fuckups.
I worked for one loud prick whose sole man-management technique was to rush down the office, muttering about "project failures" and throw a printed email on my desk, demanding to know what I was going to do with it.
Fuck knows how I resisted the temptation to state the obvious.
Printer paper is a bugger to flush.
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Thank fuck I am not in the corporate world. I hardly understand a single word in this thread.
If they defund the police I am screwed!
