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Blues 2021

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  • M Mackerzzzz

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

    3 weeks for Hodgman.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300280746/super-rugby-aotearoa-blues-prop-alex-hodgman-cops-threeweek-suspension

    Lucky just to get three...

    That was nasty

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    #678

    @mackerzzzz it wasnt pretty, and while I am sure he didnt intend to do what he did, it was an incredibly dangerous action.

    I think @Stargazer mentioned in the game thread he expected 6 weeks but reduced to 3.

    Hodgman entered a guilty plea and was ruled out of all forms of rugby for three weeks, up to and including May 8 which is the date of the final. Should the Blues not make the playoff, the judiciary reserved its right to revisit the suspension.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

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      @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

      No disrespect but if I wore that hair colour people would call me Toilet Duck.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

          No disrespect but if I wore that hair colour people would call me Toilet Duck.

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          @nostrildamus pato

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            https://www.facebook.com/35306676317/posts/10159876377321318/

            George Dyer - After training with The Blues pre-season, Dyer has been called in this week as replacement cover for the The Blues for the next month.

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              https://www.facebook.com/35306676317/posts/10159876377321318/

              George Dyer - After training with The Blues pre-season, Dyer has been called in this week as replacement cover for the The Blues for the next month.

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              @yeetyaah So that's a replacement for Hodgman?

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                #684

                Dyer is more of a TH but I think he played LH in club rugby last weekend.

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                • TimT Away
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                  #685

                  Time to flush this series and move on to the trans- Ta$man games.

                  The obvious problems has been a lack of accuracy, and low on variation, forward based attack that is predictable and fails to use the backs or give them space off quick phase ball or set-piece. Halangahu needs to justify his position here. This all too much like his forward dominated North Harbour game plans. Support lines need some changes. Too often break outs have no supporting runners, with players staying on their wing. I can't believe they don't use Clarke on an inside ball off the scrum.

                  As far as individual selections go, lets start with the backs.

                  Ruru is okay coming off the bench but his error rate is pretty high, and more importantly he is often slow to clear the ruck, can be slow getting to the ruck off breaks, and his support play isn't good enough. He also produces a couple of poor box kicks per game. It's time to stick with Nock or Christie as starter.

                  Black has a decent kicking game and is a skilful player, but not much of a threat running at the line. If he plays they need to use strong carriers running off him, and have an aggressive kick chase. If Barrett is available he starts at 10.

                  At 12 use Faiane but give Tele'a some time.

                  Need more variation in how wings are used and selections. Narawa etc deserve a chance.

                  Perofeta looks pretty stale at 15, a position where there should at least have been some rotation. Sullivan and Kneepkens deserve a chance. Barrett can play there, with Black at 10, if they want to play a kicking game plan.

                  In the forwards I'd like to see the loose forward mix freshened up, with the possibility of a link player selected. Papalii is quite good there, as is Robinson, and Akira at 8 can offer more than Sotutu in that regard. Maybe Choat a 7 and Papalii at 6. Pity that Hunt can't be tried in that role.

                  First choice XXIII for TT games:

                  15 Pick on form, would like to see Sullivan get first go
                  14 Narawa/Telea
                  13 Ioane
                  12 Faiane
                  11 Clarke
                  10 Barrett
                  9 Nock

                  8 Ioane
                  7 Papalii
                  6 Robinson/Choat
                  5 GCT/Pierce
                  4 Tuipulotu
                  3 Laulala/OfaT
                  2 Eklund
                  1 Hodgman/KarlT

                  23 Tele'a/Sullivan
                  22 Black/Tele'a
                  21 Christie
                  20 Sotutu
                  19 Pierce/GCT/Darry
                  18 OfaT/Laulala
                  17 KarlT/Hodgman
                  16 Tolai

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Time to flush this series and move on to the trans- Ta$man games.

                    The obvious problems has been a lack of accuracy, and low on variation, forward based attack that is predictable and fails to use the backs or give them space off quick phase ball or set-piece. Halangahu needs to justify his position here. This all too much like his forward dominated North Harbour game plans. Support lines need some changes. Too often break outs have no supporting runners, with players staying on their wing. I can't believe they don't use Clarke on an inside ball off the scrum.

                    As far as individual selections go, lets start with the backs.

                    Ruru is okay coming off the bench but his error rate is pretty high, and more importantly he is often slow to clear the ruck, can be slow getting to the ruck off breaks, and his support play isn't good enough. He also produces a couple of poor box kicks per game. It's time to stick with Nock or Christie as starter.

                    Black has a decent kicking game and is a skilful player, but not much of a threat running at the line. If he plays they need to use strong carriers running off him, and have an aggressive kick chase. If Barrett is available he starts at 10.

                    At 12 use Faiane but give Tele'a some time.

                    Need more variation in how wings are used and selections. Narawa etc deserve a chance.

                    Perofeta looks pretty stale at 15, a position where there should at least have been some rotation. Sullivan and Kneepkens deserve a chance. Barrett can play there, with Black at 10, if they want to play a kicking game plan.

                    In the forwards I'd like to see the loose forward mix freshened up, with the possibility of a link player selected. Papalii is quite good there, as is Robinson, and Akira at 8 can offer more than Sotutu in that regard. Maybe Choat a 7 and Papalii at 6. Pity that Hunt can't be tried in that role.

                    First choice XXIII for TT games:

                    15 Pick on form, would like to see Sullivan get first go
                    14 Narawa/Telea
                    13 Ioane
                    12 Faiane
                    11 Clarke
                    10 Barrett
                    9 Nock

                    8 Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    6 Robinson/Choat
                    5 GCT/Pierce
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    3 Laulala/OfaT
                    2 Eklund
                    1 Hodgman/KarlT

                    23 Tele'a/Sullivan
                    22 Black/Tele'a
                    21 Christie
                    20 Sotutu
                    19 Pierce/GCT/Darry
                    18 OfaT/Laulala
                    17 KarlT/Hodgman
                    16 Tolai

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                    @tim Won't be Barrett, he will be in the final of the Japan League (his team is undefeated in the round robin), then even if he leaves the day after - 2 weeks quarantine, means he'll be available for the last game only

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                      I had thought Leon might be holding some stuff back but seeing his face at the end of the game maybe not.

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                        #688

                        Every other nz team plays a fast clearing 9 and a running threat 10.

                        Blues play a slow clearing 9 and a 10 with next to no running threat.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          Every other nz team plays a fast clearing 9 and a running threat 10.

                          Blues play a slow clearing 9 and a 10 with next to no running threat.

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                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                          Every other nz team plays a fast clearing 9 and a running threat 10.

                          Blues play a slow clearing 9 and a 10 with next to no running threat.

                          I think Ruru is bloody quick to the breakdown and excellent at getting it away quick if it's a pick and pop. It's every other option that's the problem.

                          How good were the blues wingers last year? This year...meh. The difference? 9, 12, 15.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @kiwimurph said in Blues 2021:

                            Every other nz team plays a fast clearing 9 and a running threat 10.

                            Blues play a slow clearing 9 and a 10 with next to no running threat.

                            I think Ruru is bloody quick to the breakdown and excellent at getting it away quick if it's a pick and pop. It's every other option that's the problem.

                            How good were the blues wingers last year? This year...meh. The difference? 9, 12, 15.

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                            @bones said in Blues 2021:

                            How good were the blues wingers last year? This year...meh. The difference? 9, 12, 15.

                            Just watched the game and thought the Blues 11/14/15 were real poor compared to the Saders. On the plus side, Reiko seems to be developing really well at 13.

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                              Dalton Papali'i out for a few weeks.

                              He should be back for the Aussie games.

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                                With Dalton out, I hope we put Choat at 7.

                                Gibson should be eased out of the rotation. Sadly, I think he just doesn't look Super standard anymore. Injuries have really taken a lot out of his game.

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                                • DiceD Dice

                                  With Dalton out, I hope we put Choat at 7.

                                  Gibson should be eased out of the rotation. Sadly, I think he just doesn't look Super standard anymore. Injuries have really taken a lot out of his game.

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                                  @dice it was pretty weird how Gibson got one turnover at the start of the match then Dalton started killing it and the commentators wouldn't stop going on about how good Gibson is at pilfering.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @dice it was pretty weird how Gibson got one turnover at the start of the match then Dalton started killing it and the commentators wouldn't stop going on about how good Gibson is at pilfering.

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                                    @bones He didn't do much after that, which is why he got pulled 5 minutes after halftime.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @dice it was pretty weird how Gibson got one turnover at the start of the match then Dalton started killing it and the commentators wouldn't stop going on about how good Gibson is at pilfering.

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                                      #695

                                      @bones in fairness Specsavers Nisbo was commentating...

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                                        Some good points

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-blues-backline-puzzle-just-gets-more-confusing-after-the-head-scratching-selections-against-crusaders/

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          Some good points

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-blues-backline-puzzle-just-gets-more-confusing-after-the-head-scratching-selections-against-crusaders/

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                          Some good points

                                          I agree.

                                          Our strengths after the Crusaders game (when we fell off a cliff) were very clearly props, loosies and Rieko at centre. Just about everywhere else was struggling. Clarke hasn't had the space this year, and our spine 2/8/9/10/15 has still struggled and is arguably weaker than a lot of the comp.

                                          So yeah, pre-season we had a very strong 15 to put out there. Losing our senior lock and leader was a massive blow, and I don't think we ever really had the class in most of the positions around the paddock.

                                          That said, I'm still dark about the season defining maul try against the Chiefs being overturned. I think it wasn't a clear ruling at all, and a lot of mauls should be penalised if that's the standard. But that's the TMO for you these days, you have to suck it up. We lost because we weren't good enough in the last two minutes.

                                          In the positivity front, we've come a very very long way. Winning away is hard, but not impossible and the winning percentages are a step change above Tana and JK, particularly against NZ teams. Our scrum was a weapon and should get back there, and we're actually picking up some good talent and coaching people. Hope to get the perfect run at Trans Ta$man, but it's probably not enough to get to the final. Provided teams can take down the Reds regularly, it'll be the Chiefs and Crusaders unless they drop their bundle

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