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Hurricanes 2021

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @canes4life They may want to give Jordie a rest at some point. Although there's a bit of a queue of players who will be looking to get game time. Also don't forget he's a young, very green player. He may not even get a run in his first year (that's far from unusual).

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    @stargazer don’t forget he was in and around the squad last year so he’s not totally green, but he is still very young so beat to ease him into it I guess even though it will most likely be a dud Canes season.

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      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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        @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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          @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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          @canes4life as should any canes fan?

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            @canes4life as should any canes fan?

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            @taniwharugby I’d be happier if we signed a couple decent tight forwards.

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              @tim @Stargazer will be a happy happy man if this comes to fruition.

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              @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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                @stargazer yeah I can't see why he'd go to the canes to be behind TJ, there are better places. Hopefully I'm wrong tho

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @canes4life Signing him is not enough; he needs to get sufficient game time, too. :face_with_raised_eyebrow: Knowing the Canes, he'll be stuck behind TJP (if he decides to return) for the next few years. So probably not better off than when he stays at the Landers. If TJP moves on, then things could be different ...

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                  @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                  Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                    @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                    Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                    @higgins Roigard is only an injury replacement for Booth, so he doesn't count. Campbell only has a one-year contract (brought in because TJP isn't there). So he'd have to replace either Booth or Taumateine, who are also off-contract. In fact, the Canes have not a single halfback contracted for 2022 and beyond, yet.

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                    • HigginsH Higgins

                      @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                      Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

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                      @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

                      @stargazer He will also probably be stuck being Luke Campbell, who is essentially a Wellington product afterall, as well!
                      Incidentally who of Booth, TJP, Taumateine, Campbell, Roiguard or the almost inexhaustible supply of halfbacks brought in by the WRFU get given the DCM to fit Fakatava in?

                      fine!, you twisted my arm....we'll keep him.....

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @higgins Roigard is only an injury replacement for Booth, so he doesn't count. Campbell only has a one-year contract (brought in because TJP isn't there). So he'd have to replace either Booth or Taumateine, who are also off-contract. In fact, the Canes have not a single halfback contracted for 2022 and beyond, yet.

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                        @stargazer Oh that's interesting. Looks like we might be able to witness another couple of imported schoolboy superstar halfbacks running round in Petone, MSP and OBU colours this season then!

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                        • HigginsH Higgins

                          @stargazer Oh that's interesting. Looks like we might be able to witness another couple of imported schoolboy superstar halfbacks running round in Petone, MSP and OBU colours this season then!

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                          @higgins Yep, Wellington has already signed Hawke's Bay product Treyah Kingi-Taukamo for their academy, but he won't be ready for SR in 2022.

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                            @kpkanz in response to your comments on Jordie. We are talking about fullback not wing. Jordie was the better fullback last year so judging him as a winger is stupid - he just doesn’t have the pace. His height, size and kicking game are suited to 15. Go and watch some of his highlights for the Canes last year, he was fucking brilliant and would have lead most of the stats if he didn’t miss those first two rounds.

                            He’s a totally different to players like Jordan and Ben Smith who are able to move to the right or left wing as they have the pace to do so.

                            If you think Jordan and Jordie are like for like then ask Jordan to kick a 60m shot at goal.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

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                              @tim said in Hurricanes 2021:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124448813/super-rugby-aotearoa-hurricanes-circle-offcontract-highlander-folau-fakatava

                              How very un Canes like to try sign a player with Flair though we should’ve thrown at least a development contract at him when he came out of school.

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                              • HigginsH Higgins

                                @stargazer Oh that's interesting. Looks like we might be able to witness another couple of imported schoolboy superstar halfbacks running round in Petone, MSP and OBU colours this season then!

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                                @higgins just like the Carlos Price experiment 😂

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @kpkanz in response to your comments on Jordie. We are talking about fullback not wing. Jordie was the better fullback last year so judging him as a winger is stupid - he just doesn’t have the pace. His height, size and kicking game are suited to 15. Go and watch some of his highlights for the Canes last year, he was fucking brilliant and would have lead most of the stats if he didn’t miss those first two rounds.

                                  He’s a totally different to players like Jordan and Ben Smith who are able to move to the right or left wing as they have the pace to do so.

                                  If you think Jordan and Jordie are like for like then ask Jordan to kick a 60m shot at goal.

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                                  @canes4life

                                   Go and watch some of his highlights for the Canes last year, he was fucking brilliant and would have lead most of the stats if he didn’t miss those first two rounds.
                                  

                                  I kept track of the stats and thats not true at all. Jordie had more carries than Jordan throughout the season and was way down on every attacking stat and it wasnt even close. Jordan was either 1st or 2nd in metres made/defenders beaten/tries. Jordie wasnt close in ANY attacking category (wasnt in the top 10 for pretty much all of them) yet had more carries than Jordan throughout the season.

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                                    @higgins just like the Carlos Price experiment 😂

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                                    @mikey07 Not a total failure as I think he made the Waikato 2nd XV last season.

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                                      The Hurricanes Hunters will play the Crusaders development team, tomorrow.

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                                      • HigginsH Higgins

                                        @mikey07 Not a total failure as I think he made the Waikato 2nd XV last season.

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                                        @higgins I was meaning for Wellington more then anywhere else

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          The Hurricanes Hunters will play the Crusaders development team, tomorrow.

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                                          @stargazer

                                          Honestly speaking, there really isn't much in terms of good cattle ready to come and help out areas of weakness in the Canes right now, is there? Some good midfield talent, which they don't really need, and players most people have never heard of at lock and in the halves.

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