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Hurricanes 2021

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    @winger said in Hurricanes 2021:

    Former New Zealand Schools first-five Aidan Morgan, 19, was in the mix, too, but was deemed too young by NZ Rugby when the Hurricanes applied to add him to their squad, Holland said.

    
    So Love is still 19 DOB 24/4/2001
    Morgan DOB 7/6/2001
    
    Does the extra 6 weeks make a difference?
    

    I would think that age is only one of the factors to get NZR permission to play these young players. Morgan is small, so unless he has put some meat on his bones since leaving school it would be a big step up. Love is bigger and has played more NPC so far.

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    @bovidae I saw Morgan play recently, and he's still a baby. Didn't look ready at all. I think having played NPC makes a big difference.

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      @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

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      @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

      @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

      Repeat after me: McClutchie, McClutchie (not McLutchie)

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        @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

        @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

        Repeat after me: McClutchie, McClutchie (not McLutchie)

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        @stargazer Ahhh that might explain things a bit as the Canes selectors are probably looking up the white pages under the wrong spelling and not able to locate him then!

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          The second the got rid of Fletcher Smith I knew they were F***ed he was way better that JGB

          The hurricanes need to change their tactics to have a chance this year. Last year they could at least get Laumape moving this year he's been a dud.
          And getting rid of the van wouldn't go amiss...
          He is too old and he's holding up rayasi's progress.

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          • WingerW Winger

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124574211/super-rugby-aotearoa-orbyn-leger-into-hurricanes-hot-seat-against-chiefs

            Former New Zealand Schools first-five Aidan Morgan, 19, was in the mix, too, but was deemed too young by NZ Rugby when the Hurricanes applied to add him to their squad, Holland said.
            

            So Love is still 19 DOB 24/4/2001
            Morgan DOB 7/6/2001

            Does the extra 6 weeks make a difference?
            Hope Love goes well

            Sitting in the background is another 19-year-old former NZ Schools pivot, Ruben Love, who was named in the 38-man Hurricanes squad and will play first-five for the second team the Hunters on Saturday.
            
            Holland rates Love highly and the gifted first-five/fullback will loom into contention in coming weeks after he was sidelined by concussion early in the season. Taranaki’s Daniel Waite is another pivot summoned as cover.
            
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            I am a big fan of Billy Procter but why the F*** is he starting not PUJ.

            Although Armstrong benched is a good idea becuase he is shit.

            Also Flanders is better than Prinsep. But Prinseps from Canterbury so NZR loves him

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              I am a big fan of Billy Procter but why the F*** is he starting not PUJ.

              Although Armstrong benched is a good idea becuase he is shit.

              Also Flanders is better than Prinsep. But Prinseps from Canterbury so NZR loves him

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              @mackerzzzz Not sure what NZR or Canterbury has got to do with Hurricanes team selections. That's all on the Hurricanes' coaches; no running away from responsibility or blaming someone else.

              Laumape was a dud for most of the 2020 season, too. Apparently, someone needs to show him some "disruspec" before he has a good game, or two. That seems to be enough to get him into the ABs ...

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @mackerzzzz Not sure what NZR or Canterbury has got to do with Hurricanes team selections. That's all on the Hurricanes' coaches; no running away from responsibility or blaming someone else.

                Laumape was a dud for most of the 2020 season, too. Apparently, someone needs to show him some "disruspec" before he has a good game, or two. That seems to be enough to get him into the ABs ...

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                @stargazer They seem to have some say over coaching appointments though. Firstly the Hamateur and now J Holland who both made their mark as assistant coaches at the Crusaders. One shudders to think what the ABs record might be under their stewardship.

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                • HigginsH Higgins

                  @stargazer They seem to have some say over coaching appointments though. Firstly the Hamateur and now J Holland who both made their mark as assistant coaches at the Crusaders. One shudders to think what the ABs record might be under their stewardship.

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                  @higgins Jason Holland has never been coach at the Crusaders; he has been a Canterbury assistant coach, but that's a long time ago. He has been assistant coach at the Hurricanes since 2015.

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                    @higgins Jason Holland has never been coach at the Crusaders; he has been a Canterbury assistant coach, but that's a long time ago. He has been assistant coach at the Hurricanes since 2015.

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                    @stargazer That makes it even more strange how he keeps getting the appointments further up the chain.

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                      @Higgins Holland would have been one of Robertson's AB assistant coaches.

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                        @bovidae Hopefully Fozzie gets the chop so Razor can get the job and take Holland with him.....actually maybe not Gibbes will probably get the job 🤮

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          @Higgins Holland would have been one of Robertson's AB assistant coaches.

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                          @bovidae said in Hurricanes 2021:

                          @Higgins Holland would have been one of Robertson's AB assistant coaches.

                          I hope if Razor gets the ABs job that he’s 100% autocratic if that’s the case ....

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                            @bovidae Hopefully Fozzie gets the chop so Razor can get the job and take Holland with him.....actually maybe not Gibbes will probably get the job 🤮

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                            @mikey07 said in Hurricanes 2021:

                            @bovidae Hopefully Fozzie gets the chop so Razor can get the job and take Holland with him.....actually maybe not Gibbes will probably get the job 🤮

                            Shudder

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                              The second the got rid of Fletcher Smith I knew they were F***ed he was way better that JGB

                              The hurricanes need to change their tactics to have a chance this year. Last year they could at least get Laumape moving this year he's been a dud.
                              And getting rid of the van wouldn't go amiss...
                              He is too old and he's holding up rayasi's progress.

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                              @mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2021:

                              The second the got rid of Fletcher Smith I knew they were F***ed he was way better that JGB

                              The hurricanes need to change their tactics to have a chance this year. Last year they could at least get Laumape moving this year he's been a dud.
                              And getting rid of the van wouldn't go amiss...
                              He is too old and he's holding up rayasi's progress.

                              This year's team might be the worst Canes team in our history

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                                @mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                The second the got rid of Fletcher Smith I knew they were F***ed he was way better that JGB

                                The hurricanes need to change their tactics to have a chance this year. Last year they could at least get Laumape moving this year he's been a dud.
                                And getting rid of the van wouldn't go amiss...
                                He is too old and he's holding up rayasi's progress.

                                This year's team might be the worst Canes team in our history

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                                Mackerzzzz
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                                @canefan nah 2012 was worse all they had was b barrett and c smith

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

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                                  @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                  every Swindale Shield

                                  HOBM aren't in the Swindale anymore?

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                                    @canefan nah 2012 was worse all they had was b barrett and c smith

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                                    @mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                    @canefan nah 2012 was worse all they had was b barrett and c smith

                                    The 2012 Hurricanes Super Rugby Squad

                                    Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
                                    Beauden Barrett
                                    Tim Bateman
                                    Michael Bent
                                    James Broadhurst
                                    Richard Buckman
                                    Dane Coles
                                    Jason Eaton
                                    Chris Eaton
                                    Reggie Goodes
                                    David Hall
                                    Jayden Hayward
                                    Cory Jane
                                    Daniel Kirkpatrick
                                    Jack Lam
                                    Alapati Leiua
                                    Faifili Levave
                                    Karl Lowe
                                    Motu Matu’u
                                    Ben May
                                    Tristan Moran
                                    Charlie Ngatai
                                    TJ Perenara
                                    Tusi Pisi
                                    Mark Reddish
                                    Julian Savea
                                    Brad Shields
                                    Conrad Smith
                                    Chris Smylie
                                    Andre Taylor
                                    Jeremy Thrush
                                    Victor Vito

                                    I think 2012 was better. We had BB, Snake, Coles, TJP, Jason Eaton, CJ, and prime Bus, not to mention one time England international Shields, and a bunch of proven S14 veterans

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @mackerzzzz said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                      @canefan nah 2012 was worse all they had was b barrett and c smith

                                      The 2012 Hurricanes Super Rugby Squad

                                      Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
                                      Beauden Barrett
                                      Tim Bateman
                                      Michael Bent
                                      James Broadhurst
                                      Richard Buckman
                                      Dane Coles
                                      Jason Eaton
                                      Chris Eaton
                                      Reggie Goodes
                                      David Hall
                                      Jayden Hayward
                                      Cory Jane
                                      Daniel Kirkpatrick
                                      Jack Lam
                                      Alapati Leiua
                                      Faifili Levave
                                      Karl Lowe
                                      Motu Matu’u
                                      Ben May
                                      Tristan Moran
                                      Charlie Ngatai
                                      TJ Perenara
                                      Tusi Pisi
                                      Mark Reddish
                                      Julian Savea
                                      Brad Shields
                                      Conrad Smith
                                      Chris Smylie
                                      Andre Taylor
                                      Jeremy Thrush
                                      Victor Vito

                                      I think 2012 was better. We had BB, Snake, Coles, TJP, Jason Eaton, CJ, and prime Bus, not to mention one time England international Shields, and a bunch of proven S14 veterans

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                                      @canefan geez that's a million times better!

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @canefan geez that's a million times better!

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                                        @bones said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                        @canefan geez that's a million times better!

                                        The problem is that on the other side of the ledger was the Hammettuer.

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                                          @bones said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                          @canefan geez that's a million times better!

                                          The problem is that on the other side of the ledger was the Hammettuer.

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                                          @nepia said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                          @bones said in Hurricanes 2021:

                                          @canefan geez that's a million times better!

                                          The problem is that on the other side of the ledger was the Hammettuer.

                                          The Hammer and Alama were limited but were also far and away better than the current lot.

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