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    SouthernMann
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    #1594

    There is a strong narrative around refusal to pay talent well, and closed contracts interms of performing elsewhere though...

    It isn't just orange man bad.

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      Rembrandt
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      Fair enough, I loved the interviews with the fighters but when they started down the 'racist, mysogynist, sexist' trope about the fighters and the UFC's refusal to apply cancel culture to stop radicalising young men I started to grind my teeth..end point for me was the claim that the UFC was purposely training people specifically to vote right wing.

      Would be really interested to get a take on how fighters are paid, how it compares to other organisations, has it changed since the TKO merger, CTE issues, hospital bills, UFC absorbing other competitions that sort of stuff but got to a point where I couldn't trust that the documentarians were going to be objective presenting issues rather than just trying to paint a narrative to support a political position facts be damned.

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        Rembrandt
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        This was super weird. Delayed knockout or faked to try and get a dq win?
        https://twitter.com/CPBetting/status/1934100890157461835?s=19

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          This was super weird. Delayed knockout or faked to try and get a dq win?
          https://twitter.com/CPBetting/status/1934100890157461835?s=19

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          MiketheSnow
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          @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

          This was super weird. Delayed knockout or faked to try and get a dq win?
          https://twitter.com/CPBetting/status/1934100890157461835?s=19

          That angle looks legit

          But there are other angles where he's looking at the ref and remonstrating before he hits the canvas

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            @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

            This was super weird. Delayed knockout or faked to try and get a dq win?
            https://twitter.com/CPBetting/status/1934100890157461835?s=19

            That angle looks legit

            But there are other angles where he's looking at the ref and remonstrating before he hits the canvas

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            Duluth
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            @MiketheSnow said in UFC / MMA:

            But there are other angles where he's looking at the ref and remonstrating before he hits the canvas

            Yeah there's a couple of damning angles

            On a related note I think upkicks on a technically grounded opponent should be legal

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              @MiketheSnow said in UFC / MMA:

              But there are other angles where he's looking at the ref and remonstrating before he hits the canvas

              Yeah there's a couple of damning angles

              On a related note I think upkicks on a technically grounded opponent should be legal

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              MiketheSnow
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              @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

              @MiketheSnow said in UFC / MMA:

              But there are other angles where he's looking at the ref and remonstrating before he hits the canvas

              Yeah there's a couple of damning angles

              On a related note I think upkicks on a technically grounded opponent should be legal

              Agreed

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                Rembrandt
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                The kick didn't even seem to hit him flush, so weird to think someone might flop in mma. Like if that's your attitude surely you're fucked before you're even in the cage. Ref must have had enough doubt to make it a no-contest rather than dq. Great call.

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                  Rembrandt
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                  Atlanta purses released, not including post fight bonuses. More than I was expecting considering there is so much talk of fighters not being paid but, huge variance that I can't really get my head around. I mean why does Namajunus get $200K more than Usman when he is the headliner? No win bonus for the main card? I guess these are all individually negotiated? Certainly must suck starting out, are they stopped from getting individual sponsorship when they join ufc? If not then is it really that bad?

                  https://twitter.com/Home_of_Fight/status/1934662541806064028

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                    MiketheSnow
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                    Because most of the time Rose’s fights are better to watch

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                      Jones officially gone

                      https://www.ufc.com/news/dana-white-announces-retirement-jon-jones-tom-aspinall-heavyweight-champ

                      To many he’s the 🐐, more like the 🦆

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                        Jones officially gone

                        https://www.ufc.com/news/dana-white-announces-retirement-jon-jones-tom-aspinall-heavyweight-champ

                        To many he’s the 🐐, more like the 🦆

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                        Duluth
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                        @MiketheSnow

                        A shame, I was looking forward to Aspinall knocking him out. I presume JJ was expecting that to be the result too

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                          Rembrandt
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                          Finally caught up on the fight night, been a struggle to stay off X to have it spoilt. Luckily its been a really quiet last few days on both news and UFC front...

                          Very enjoyable card for a fight night.

                          Rountree Jr was clinical taking Hill apart, well deserved to be a top 5 contender.

                          Though what stole the show was this fight which took away ALL of the post fight bonuses $100K to each fighter. Likely best fight I've seen this year

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                            Jones officially gone

                            https://www.ufc.com/news/dana-white-announces-retirement-jon-jones-tom-aspinall-heavyweight-champ

                            To many he’s the 🐐, more like the 🦆

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                            Rembrandt
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                            @MiketheSnow Good riddance, what an absolute ass. Keeps talking about legacy but just can't help tarnishing it and holding up the entire division as well as Aspinall's career.

                            On my UFC catchup I've just got to #151 which was cancelled due to Jones ducking an extremely short notice callup of Chael Sonnen who at that time was a middle weight.

                            Found the conference call announcing the cancellation and Dana did not mince his words on what he thought of Jones, no idea how it went from this to Dana singing his praises and talking about Jones 'never ducking a fight'..this was all pre PED/run ins with the law as well.

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                              Finally caught up on the fight night, been a struggle to stay off X to have it spoilt. Luckily its been a really quiet last few days on both news and UFC front...

                              Very enjoyable card for a fight night.

                              Rountree Jr was clinical taking Hill apart, well deserved to be a top 5 contender.

                              Though what stole the show was this fight which took away ALL of the post fight bonuses $100K to each fighter. Likely best fight I've seen this year

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                              MiketheSnow
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                              @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                              Finally caught up on the fight night, been a struggle to stay off X to have it spoilt. Luckily its been a really quiet last few days on both news and UFC front...

                              Very enjoyable card for a fight night.

                              Rountree Jr was clinical taking Hill apart, well deserved to be a top 5 contender.

                              Though what stole the show was this fight which took away ALL of the post fight bonuses $100K to each fighter. Likely best fight I've seen this year

                              Agreed

                              Link didn't work in UK

                              For other in the same boat maybe this will

                              Sadykhov v Motta

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                                @MiketheSnow Good riddance, what an absolute ass. Keeps talking about legacy but just can't help tarnishing it and holding up the entire division as well as Aspinall's career.

                                On my UFC catchup I've just got to #151 which was cancelled due to Jones ducking an extremely short notice callup of Chael Sonnen who at that time was a middle weight.

                                Found the conference call announcing the cancellation and Dana did not mince his words on what he thought of Jones, no idea how it went from this to Dana singing his praises and talking about Jones 'never ducking a fight'..this was all pre PED/run ins with the law as well.

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                                Duluth
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                                @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                                Found the conference call announcing the cancellation and Dana did not mince his words on what he thought of Jones, no idea how it went from this to Dana singing his praises and talking about Jones 'never ducking a fight'

                                Oh he still hates Jones

                                There was a period where all the big champs retired or lost. The UFC had two stars to talk up - Jones and Pereira. White praised Jones while he thought he had a big fight to sell. He'll be calling someone else the GOAT soon

                                DW also dislikes Ngannou. He'll praise him if a fight with him an Apsinall was possible (doubt it'll ever happen)

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                                  @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                                  Found the conference call announcing the cancellation and Dana did not mince his words on what he thought of Jones, no idea how it went from this to Dana singing his praises and talking about Jones 'never ducking a fight'

                                  Oh he still hates Jones

                                  There was a period where all the big champs retired or lost. The UFC had two stars to talk up - Jones and Pereira. White praised Jones while he thought he had a big fight to sell. He'll be calling someone else the GOAT soon

                                  DW also dislikes Ngannou. He'll praise him if a fight with him an Apsinall was possible (doubt it'll ever happen)

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                                  Rembrandt
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                                  @Duluth That is crazy..

                                  Speaking of crazy Mr Jones is in some legal trouble again...

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                                    Duluth
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                                    KKF fighting for the title this weekend

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                                      Rembrandt
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                                      Good little bio on him including clips from his first fight at 17.

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                                        Rembrandt
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                                        I'm such a sucker for these. Pumped for Sunday!

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                                          Rembrandt
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                                          Who have we got?

                                          I'm going:
                                          Talbott
                                          Moicano
                                          Royval
                                          Kara-France
                                          Topuria

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