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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @Crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

    Not sure if I am slow on this news but Lindenmuth and Vialame Taulani have been added into the Chiefs training as cover (Steelers news says 'Chiefs Squad').

    That looks like Lindenmuth in the photo with Taulani?

    Moli is still not training, and Ross is coming back from an operation so they will be short of props.

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    @Bovidae Moli, fourth photo:

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      @Bovidae Moli, fourth photo:

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      @Stargazer I meant running etc based on @Yeetyaah's comment from the open training last week.

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        Can't complain about Lindenmuth tbh, he's a decent player and seems like a good dude off the field.

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          Can't complain about Lindenmuth tbh, he's a decent player and seems like a good dude off the field.

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          @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:

          Can't complain about Lindenmuth tbh, he's a decent player and seems like a good dude off the field.

          And given the Chiefs history with props getting injured, he will likely play half the season too

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            Screenshot_2021-01-22-13-43-41-74.jpg

            From Pita Gus' instagram story. Looks like Gideon Wrampling is also training with the Chiefs.

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                I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    I see that a Chiefs U20s wider training squad has also been in camp. Having a quick look at the photos I recognise a few players.

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                    @Bovidae I haven't seen a complete list of players, but BOP and Taranaki have posted the names of their U20 playersin the Chiefs U20s wtg.

                    BOP
                    Kali Vaipulu
                    Mason Leaver
                    Cassius Misa
                    Jona Mataiciwa
                    Nikora Broughten
                    Melino Fotu
                    Kane O’Connor
                    Lucas Cashmore
                    Te Hemara Gardiner Toi
                    Josh Bartlett
                    Curtis Palmer
                    Veveni Lasaqa
                    Nephi Sanerive
                    Tama Te Aute
                    Arana Millar
                    Bernie Hati
                    James Porter (Resource Coach)
                    Scott Joblin (Strength & Conditioning Trainer)

                    Taranaki

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                      @Stargazer Don't be expecting Waikato to do the same.

                      A few of the Waikato players I can recognise are Hakaraia Richards-Coxhead, Mason Tupaea and Campbell Robb (all front rowers). Also looks like Te Rama Rueben, who I thought would be BOP. Obviously not.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @Stargazer Don't be expecting Waikato to do the same.

                        A few of the Waikato players I can recognise are Hakaraia Richards-Coxhead, Mason Tupaea and Campbell Robb (all front rowers). Also looks like Te Rama Rueben, who I thought would be BOP. Obviously not.

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                        @Bovidae yes the good old Waikato Rugby Union ministry of information is unlikely to be forth comming with with anything insightful....they need lessons in openness from Kim Jong-un...even his outfit is more open.

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                          https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/gallagher-chiefs-complete-2021-squad-signing-rameka-poihipi.

                          The Chiefs Rugby Club are pleased to announce Māori All Black Rameka Poihipi will complete the Gallagher Chiefs 2021 squad.
                          A product of Hamilton Boys' High School, Poihipi will join the Gallagher Chiefs for the upcoming Super Rugby Aotearoa and Trans- Ta$man Competitions.

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                            That looks like a good pick up. Is it?

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                              What are the Chiefs first choice forwards going to be? Will Moli be available?

                              Something like:

                              1 Ross
                              2 Harris
                              3 Ta'avao
                              4 Vaa'i
                              5 Brown
                              6 Jacobson
                              7 Cane
                              8 Sowakula

                              16 Taukei'aho
                              17 O'Neill
                              18 Mafileo
                              19 Ah Kuoi
                              20 Boshier

                              Depth will be a bit better than last year due to a better start with injuries and Vaa'i's development?

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                                If everyone is fit and available I would select:

                                1 Ross
                                2 Harris
                                3 Mafileo
                                4 Vaa'i
                                5 Ah Kuoi
                                6 Jacobson
                                7 Cane
                                8 Sowakula

                                16 Taukei'aho
                                17 Moli
                                18 Ta'avao
                                19 Brown
                                20 Boshier

                                Mafileo would be best as the starter if in the 23, and Moli and Ta'avao more suited as the impact props.
                                Brown might be preferred at 6 with Jacobson at no.8 (Sowakula to the reserves). I don't think Boshier should start with Cane based on the options for no.8.

                                McMillan will have his own ideas so it's hard to know at this stage.

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                                  Some points of interest:

                                  The Chiefs are reverting to co-captains this season and an announcement on the new skipper is due next week. Weber, Lienert-Brown and 14-test prop Angus Ta’avao, who has captained Taranaki and Auckland in the Mitre 10 Cup, are among those in contention but Chiefs assistant coach David Hill confirmed they were still deciding.

                                  Hill also indicated the Chiefs would be changing the way they play but wouldn’t specify how, saying “I can't give you all the secrets” with a grin, but said McMillan has particularly highlighted the need to tweak their defensive systems.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300221373/super-rugby-sam-cane-given-extra-week-off-as-all-blacks-return-to-chiefs-for-preseason

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                                    What are people's thoughts on Sowakula? For some reason I thought he was 28+ and Fiji capped but he's only 26 and NZ-eligible, however I can't see him even entering the discussion for the ABs. Placeholder or still improving?

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                                      What are people's thoughts on Sowakula? For some reason I thought he was 28+ and Fiji capped but he's only 26 and NZ-eligible, however I can't see him even entering the discussion for the ABs. Placeholder or still improving?

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                                      Placeholder who shouldn't be starting, and, if I were honest, should take the money overseas and turn out for Fiji. He's a fantastic athlete (originally a Basketballer) and does a reasonable job for us at this level, but he won't be an AB.

                                      Further, IMO Jacobson is a better 8, is younger, and has a bigger future. Sowakula off the bench would be my preferred way of using him, but perhaps Jacobson 6, Cane 7, and Sowakula at 8 will be needed - especially if we have to run out a short and light second row again (i.e., basically running out five loose forwards).

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                                        Agree with @gt12

                                        Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                        The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

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                                          Agree with @gt12

                                          Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                          The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          Agree with @gt12

                                          Sowakula has the physical attributes (big, fast) but hasn't shown any consistency yet. His biggest issue is ball control, often losing the ball in contact. Watch the start of the Moana Pasifika-Maori game as an example.

                                          The Chiefs have selected two young no.8s in the squad (Parker, K Boshier) but neither are ready yet.

                                          He does have a bit Shield's disease (i.e., tits for hands).
                                          I didn't realize that he was also converted winger, which might be another reason why he isn't as comfortable with his handling in traffic.

                                          If we had a few better pieces around the forward pack (e.g. one more quality prop, BBBR back), I could see PGS as a really valuable role player, which will had plenty of 10 years ago when we were a Championship side.

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