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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
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    #81

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466160" data-time="1419242230">
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    <p>No, Taradale! It's not exactly the sticks is it?</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>Taradale! WTF! Up on a hill? Top of Churchill Drive maybe? :(</p>

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  • JCJ Offline
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    <p>You'd think so wouldn't you? But nope. Guppy Road.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1'>https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I guess the internet connection is the same one the house had when it was built 100 years ago. The modem is made of cast iron and lead, and it only works properly once the steam builds up to a decent working pressure.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    #83

    <p>Mine's equally shit, JC - though I do live a bit in the sticks.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But, well inside a 2 mile radius of where Lord Rutherford was born. As a proven repository of geniuses (genii to us) we should be given the very best stuff first on principle - ahead of all you other thick fucks!  :)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Merry Christmas!</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #84

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466212" data-time="1419300783">
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    <p>You'd think so wouldn't you? But nope. Guppy Road.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1'>https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I guess the internet connection is the same one the house had when it was built 100 years ago. The modem is made of cast iron and lead, and it only works properly once the steam builds up to a decent working pressure.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>The problem is almost certainly in the house. Checked the network maps and all of Guppy Rd is ADSL2+ with the very southern end VDSL capable. Either your wiring, your modem/ router or computer are screwed. Probably your internal wiring.</p>

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    #85

    <p><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4039291759.png" alt="4039291759.png"></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And that's an upgrade for us! just got on to an unlimited VDSL plan which somehow works out cheaper than our previous 250gb standard broadband plan. We can't get UFBB in our area... if only Porirua had won Gigatown!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>We were on 5-7 down and .7 up which started to fall over with the number of devices etc in the house now.</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #86

    <p>I'd complain about that for a VDSL plan. Something not good there. Should be looking at 20+</p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    <p>Only got set up today - Chorus tech dude reckoned we'd be looking at 15-16 max as we are about 1.1-1.3km away from the exchange. He reckoned 900m is getting toward the upper limit to get 20 plus which seems pretty limited in terms of distance. Still an improvement and cheaper than last plan we were on. They will be monitoring performance over the next 10 days so that 13 should improve a bit. Slingshot promote 15-50Mbps depending on distance from exchange on their vdsl plan... wouldn't expect to get much better with spark (or other providers) if the limiting factor is the distance to the exchange?</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #88

    <p>That's OK then. The VDSL is making up some of the ground lost by being that far away. I'm surprised you are even getting a connection at that distance.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It's simply the drop off on copper over distance, part of the reason why rolling out fibre is so important, it reduces the factor of distance that is necessary in many of our population areas where it is uneconomic to add another cabinet.</p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    <p>Maybe are a bit closer than I thought to the exchange, but I do remember the guy saying 900m+ is getting iffy. I guess that's all taken into consideration when you check what services are available. Yeah the drop off seems gnarly, was feeling very jelly when Kirwan and Tim were posting their stats!!</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #90

    <p>Here's a graph.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="http://nbnmyths.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/fttn-speed-graph.gif" alt="fttn-speed-graph.gif"></p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Paekakboyz
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    #91

    <p>Cool, that gives me hope we might see an improvement once they finish tweaking at their end. Next house I'll look for fibre or to live next to the exchange!</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #92

    <p>To bump up an old thread, I heard a very interesting stat today whereby analysis has been done over the NZ network comparing available speeds to those which people have paid for/ contracted through their ISP (this is for fixed connections only as doesn't account for rural fixed connections that could improve by taking up a satellite option.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>60% of NZ connection speeds could be improved if the user simply asked.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Next time you hear someone complaining about supposed third-world internet, ask them if they are one of the 60% that hasn't even bothered to upgrade.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>This mainly consists of ADSL connections that could go VDSL, but also ADSL/VDSL that could go FTTH.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>NZ is also about to implement a bandplan change on VDSL which initial tests show could have a couple of effects depending on location of house, condition of copper etc. Those with a VDSL connection may get even better speeds (not a great uplift, but an uplift) and the range may include properties that were previously on the fringe and couldn't change.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Also interesting to note that despite services such as Netflix saying you only need about 5Mbps to stream they will send packets through at around 60Mbps if your connection will handle it. Basically what they do is test your speed and adjust the packet size/speed accordingly. The obvious result being smoother streaming with less buffering on HD content.</p>
    <p>What is often overlooked though is the aspect of multi use on your home network. As soon as you have the kids streaming one show in the bedroom while you are doing another in the lounge you will start to have issues for other use unless you have fibre. VDSL will manage but because each stream will add together to still leave a 40% headroom your 30Mbps VDSL service will only be streaming each content in at around 9Mbps. Now add someone else in trying to watch a youtube clip and you'll be reaching the limit.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Moral of the story = get on fibre 100Mbps if you can.</p>

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  • V Offline
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    Virgil
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    #93

    Moved house last week, only up the road but pleased to see our speeds have increased<br>
    On VDSL, went from a 15 - 20mb connection up to around 37mb

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #94

    Closer to the cabinet gets better speed. The drop off over distance from VDSL is rapid. <br>
    It's like high and low frequency sounds or AM v FM

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    #95

    <p>My VDSL2:</p>
    <p><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4522485027.png" alt="4522485027.png"></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm probably a kilometre from the exchange.</p>

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  • NTAN Online
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    NTA
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="503242" data-time="1437541530">
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    <p>My VDSL2:</p>
    <p><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4522485027.png" alt="4522485027.png"></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm probably a kilometre from the exchange.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Suburb?</p>

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    antipodean
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    #97

    <p>Canberra.</p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
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    #98

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="503252" data-time="1437550694">
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    <p>Canberra.</p>
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    <p>Ah, so near all the Pollies aye, meanwhile most of Sydney is barely a step above Jetstream from 2003. ;)</p>

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  • NTAN Online
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    NTA
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="503252" data-time="1437550694">
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    <p>Canberra.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Still not worth it ;)</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #100

    <p>Had to hunt and retrieve this thread, but for those of you in NZ on a VDSL connection, run yourself a speedtest and there is a good chance you have received a pressie in the last couple of months without asking for it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Due to a bandplan change through the VDSL network to align NZ with the bandplan that has become standard across the world, the affect has been an increase in speed for many users. I have gone from 30 to 42 Mbps. some lucky sods that were getting awesome VDSL speeds anyway from proximity to the cabinet have nearly reached Fibre speeds.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Copper is still inferior to fibre (when under heavy load especially) and this is probably economical peak on copper but still, for those that are waiting on the Fibre rollout this is great news for streaming</p>

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