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Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11

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    @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Canes4life I don't even think it's safe. Goodhue isn't a 12. Jordie is a great fullback and the one time he played fullback for the AB's it was only against Italy.

    Wing vs Italy, but yeah

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

    @Canes4life I don't even think it's safe. Goodhue isn't a 12. Jordie is a great fullback and the one time he played fullback for the AB's it was only against Italy.

    Wing vs Italy, but yeah

    And even though he got tries he was a fish out of water with DMac having to spend most of the game coaching him where to go.

    Waiting for these coaches to justify how this team is in line with their promises of 'form'. It is seriously, bafflingly fucked.

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        @Chris nah not when Mana man ALB is a 12. Fuck knows what happened there.

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        @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

        @Chris nah not when Mana man ALB is a 12. Fuck knows what happened there.

        Someone thought is was good idea Foster picked him at 12
        Must be some message down the line Goodhue is now a 12.
        Then if that’s not the case someone else is running the show not Foster otherwise DMac would be there too.

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          @akan004 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

          That's a promo fluff piece. Where's the real questions and answers?

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            We are going to play the same ol' same ol' this Team does not suggest that we will dominate at the breakdown, I'm not surprised in the least. I thought he would chance his arm and play a mobile pack.
            Just reminds me of the World Cup semi loss to England we were dominated at the contact area, I was hoping for some innovation.

            And Will Jordan had the best offensive stats in SR Aoteaeroa and he still opts for Bridge????

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            • D DMX

              He went the conservative route that I had been expecting. I had thought it would be the same backline as the semi, but I guess given that Jordie was in that 22 and ALB will be available off the bench he is not taking too many risks. Like I said in another thread he does not have many tests to play with , he has to win early to have any hopes of getting his contract renewed.

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              @DMX said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

              He went the conservative route that I had been expecting. I had thought it would be the same backline as the semi, but I guess given that Jordie was in that 22 and ALB will be available off the bench he is not taking too many risks. Like I said in another thread he does not have many tests to play with , he has to win early to have any hopes of getting his contract renewed.

              Yeah - spot on, I think.

              Fozzie is about making sure he wins his first test. He's not too worried about winning in style. He's gone a very conservative route, that could pretty much only have been more conservative if he'd gone with ALB and Goodhue in the midfield.

              Though, in all honesty, it's only the selection of Jordie on the wing that is the giveaway.

              Well, hopefully he gets his win and will be a bit more daring next time!

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                Welcome to our world in the 2000's, non-Chiefs fans.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  When you look at this team, you can see that we’ve really fallen off a cliff in the last few years (say, since 2015).

                  We’ve got some oldies hanging on, some newbies not being given the chance, and a mish-mash of quality to make up a very 1999 fit-in-all-the-best players back line - except they aren’t even necessarily the best players.

                  And, for someone who said he’d pick specialists, how many players are not playing in their absolute specialist positions? What a farce.

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                  @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                  When you look at this team, you can see that we’ve really fallen off a cliff in the last few years (say, since 2015).

                  We’ve got some oldies hanging on, some newbies not being given the chance, and a mish-mash of quality to make up a very 1999 fit-in-all-the-best players back line - except they aren’t even necessarily the best players.

                  And, for someone who said he’d pick specialists, how many players are not playing in their absolute specialist positions? What a farce.

                  we're in a bit og a hole. Hansen was lauded for his ability to bring in youngsters and trust them. But that is piss easy when the core of your most important players are veterans and first on the team sheet guys. Half of them are also in the "best ever" category. SO effectively the selecting was "pick the GOATS and fit new shiny bits around them"

                  Now? The veterans are on thin ice. There is barely a guy in the 15 who is a walk up start in everyone's eyes. And yet we persist with the same selection policy.

                  It's 12 months since a complete embarrassment and yet here we are. Same coach. Same players.

                  I am so inspired.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    When you look at this team, you can see that we’ve really fallen off a cliff in the last few years (say, since 2015).

                    We’ve got some oldies hanging on, some newbies not being given the chance, and a mish-mash of quality to make up a very 1999 fit-in-all-the-best players back line - except they aren’t even necessarily the best players.

                    And, for someone who said he’d pick specialists, how many players are not playing in their absolute specialist positions? What a farce.

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                    @gt12 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                    And, for someone who said he’d pick specialists, how many players are not playing in their absolute specialist positions? What a farce.

                    the specialists are on the bench!! limiting the options? seriously this selecting is retarded.

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                      Apparently Fozzie is facing the media at 12.
                      Plenty of time to load the guns.

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                        Australia have a pretty good chance here I think.

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                          We are going to play the same ol' same ol' this Team does not suggest that we will dominate at the breakdown, I'm not surprised in the least. I thought he would chance his arm and play a mobile pack.
                          Just reminds me of the World Cup semi loss to England we were dominated at the contact area, I was hoping for some innovation.

                          And Will Jordan had the best offensive stats in SR Aoteaeroa and he still opts for Bridge????

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                          @number9 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                          And Will Jordan had the best offensive stats in SR Aoteaeroa and he still opts for Bridge????

                          Bridge plays left wing and Jordan on the right.

                          But, yeah - it's a pretty uninspiring wing combo.

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                            @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            The matchday 23 is as follows (test caps in brackets):

                            1. Joe Moody (46)

                            2. Codie Taylor (50)

                            3. Ofa Tuungafasi (35)

                            4. Patrick Tuipulotu (30)

                            5. Samuel Whitelock (117)

                            6. Shannon Frizell (9)

                            7. Sam Cane (68) - captain

                            8. Ardie Savea (44)

                            9. Aaron Smith (92)

                            10. Richie Mo'unga (17)

                            11. George Bridge (9)

                            12. Jack Goodhue (13)

                            13. Rieko Ioane (29)

                            14. Jordie Barrett (17)

                            15. Beauden Barrett (83)

                            16. Dane Coles (69)

                            17. Karl Tu'inukuafe (13)

                            18. Nepo Laulala (26)

                            19. Tupou Vaa'i - debut

                            20. Hoskins Sotutu - debut

                            21. TJ Perenara (64)

                            22. Anton Lienert-Brown (43)

                            23. Caleb Clarke - debut

                            Very safe Team, happy for Clarke, Sotutu and Vaa'i . The only thing out of the ordinary is Reiko at Centre and ALB on the bench.

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                            @number9 said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            @Machpants said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                            The matchday 23 is as follows (test caps in brackets):

                            Very safe Team, happy for Clarke, Sotutu and Vaa'i . The only thing out of the ordinary is Reiko at Centre and ALB on the bench.

                            Reiko is a good selection at center. The odd selection is BB at FB and JB on the wing. I would prefer Clarke starting, JB at FB and BB in the reserves. Either BB starts at 1st or in the reserves. And I'm unsure if Goodhue is the best option at 2nd 5. Maybe ALB is a better option

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              Apparently Fozzie is facing the media at 12.
                              Plenty of time to load the guns.

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                              @Crucial said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                              Apparently Fozzie is facing the media at 12.
                              Plenty of time to load the guns.

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                              • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                What are they thinking? Goodhue isn't a 12. Jordie is the form fullback and he gets chucked on the wing? Big yikes.

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                                @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                What are they thinking? Goodhue isn't a 12.

                                Buggering about with the midfield has been de rigeur for the last 4 years so Foster is obviously aiming for continuity.

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                                  SMH looks like they got it right too

                                  Australia: Tom Banks, Filipo Daugunu, Hunter Paisami, Matt To'omua, Marika Koroibete, James O'Connor, Nic White, Harry Wilson, Michael Hooper (c), Pete Samu, Matt Philip, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Taniela Tupou, Folau Fainga'a, James Slipper.
                                  Reserves: Jordan Uelese, Scott Sio, Allan Alaalatoa, Rob Simmons, Rob Valetini, Jake Gordon Noah Lolesio, Reece Hodge.

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                                    If I could make one change it would be Jordie to 15 resulting in BB to 22 and Clarke to 14 (provided he can play on the right wing).

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      What are they thinking? Goodhue isn't a 12.

                                      Buggering about with the midfield has been de rigeur for the last 4 years so Foster is obviously aiming for continuity.

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                      What are they thinking? Goodhue isn't a 12.

                                      Buggering about with the midfield has been de rigeur for the last 4 years so Foster is obviously aiming for continuity.

                                      4 years? you meant "over the entire course of professional rugby except when Nonu and Smith existed" right?

                                      Shit, even Tana had a revolving door at 12 (including him on occasion)

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        @Yeetyaah said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        What are they thinking? Goodhue isn't a 12.

                                        Buggering about with the midfield has been de rigeur for the last 4 years so Foster is obviously aiming for continuity.

                                        4 years? you meant "over the entire course of professional rugby except when Nonu and Smith existed" right?

                                        Shit, even Tana had a revolving door at 12 (including him on occasion)

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                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                        4 years? you meant "over the entire course of professional rugby except when Nonu and Smith existed" right?

                                        Little and Bunce were steady for ever

                                        Even having one consistent pick is nice ...

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          4 years? you meant "over the entire course of professional rugby except when Nonu and Smith existed" right?

                                          Little and Bunce were steady for ever

                                          Even having one consistent pick is nice ...

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                                          @nzzp said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          @mariner4life said in Bledisloe One: Wellington, October 11:

                                          4 years? you meant "over the entire course of professional rugby except when Nonu and Smith existed" right?

                                          Little and Bunce were steady for ever

                                          Even having one consistent pick is nice ...

                                          good point, my bad. A midfield i never thought i would see bettered in a Black jersey.

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